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Post by emusha Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:31 am

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emusha wrote:
Serendipity11 wrote:Are we sure that there will be four HTDs?  There is chatter in Warsaw that Ben is in the F3...  With all the talk about things being different this season and big surprises to come, does it make sense that they did the fantasy dates prior to HTDs?  Just want to reconsider this possibility because it lines up with rumors circulating in Warsaw.  
Great input Serendipity we have been speculating on the boards of this exact scenario actually that they might have gone to F3 for the HTD!! We're not sure how/when the FDs took place but we have info that they spent 3 weeks in Ireland till E8 (I believe) which means they would have gone to F3 by HTD IMHO
Do you have confirmation about when his HTD took place? Is it like you shared last time i.e. over the past weekend?
I think the format was flipped and have said so for weeks when they went underground. Should the RC be today we would be looking at a day of travel (May1), then 2 LCD's (May2, May 3) 2MTP's(May4, May5) and FRC(May6). That provides no day offs and with days off still finishes up in normal time frame. (May 7/8). JMOAA. 
Should they be going into FD now you would be extending time frame to earliest May 11. Given with a couple days off, later than May 11th.

So the piece that's still confusing to me is that Mr. W and team sleuthed that FD is in Mexico this season -- I still think there likely is a twist in that regard if he was specifically saying FDs are in Mexico maybe they get an extra F3 set of dates in Mexico or an extra F2 set of dates in Mexico outside of LCDs/MTPs/FRC

with the timeline we're looking at where Ireland till E8, HTDs then the rest of the dates... How would an FD in Mexico fit in? There has to be some sort of different thing happening with the schedule
no idea
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Post by emusha Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:42 am

GuardianAngel wrote:I has shared two weeks ago or so, information that HTD's were going to be this week. It was later posted that Ben's HTD was the weekend of the 18/19th and that they were filming at the Youth Club. I speculated perhaps it was prefilming.

I had disagreed with Ben's HTD on the 18/19th and once again stated that HTD was going to be this week. Another poster advised that Nicks' htd was April 28th. I asked if it were possible to have two htd's in one day.

Serendipity11 then shared that the HTD was in fact Ben's on the 28th.

OHH I see -- so there's no solid info if Nick even got a HTD

How about marcker34's info that nick's family flew out on 27th for a 28th HTD -- could the HTD have been held on 27th instead?

I will share what I had posted yesterday ...just something I realized about Nick being on the show that makes me think it's in tptb's interest to make it appear that he's on the show reegrdless of howr long he actually is on it
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...snipped

I also was thinking about the amount of nick info out there and had a bit of a realization how much nick is a great carrot on a stick for viewers!! 

... we know favorite contestants and their stories are the draws for them returning as leads -- that's why tptb have been so formulaic about bringing someone back who is fresh from their elimination on a previous season ...to get redeemed and "get a second chance at love" storyline

 ... Nick being on this season is exactly that same storyline (with notoriety for him) multiplied by 2 -- we have K's storyline and now we got Nick's second chance at love story + buzz due to noteriety....this is a huge draw to have a familiar character and to be able to follow his progression.
if you think about it from that angle
1. no wonder they made sure to leak over and over deliberately that nick was on this upcoming season -- PUBLIC and promoted on social media filming and RC!
2. no wonder they want to keep it as hush hush as possible whether nick was eliminated or not (even if he's off the show I really think they'd want to keep up appearances for as long as they can that he's still on the show)
3. no wonder they're reorganizing and setting the filming schedule based on that reality of two cast offs from previous seasons both with a potential 2nd chance at love opportunity (3 weeks in one location far away from the US + any other strange filming schedule reshuffling and a "twist" in filming)

from a production standpoint I think they'll keep it as tight lipped as possible whether Nick is still on the show or not till the very end -- they might even do a no-audience, closed AFTR for this one!

I also think they want us to be so flooded with info and confuzzled that we stop believing the info that comes out -- Nick's social media is a clear indication of that strategy in action which is the most close to being confirmed (for me Nick's photo as CS' twitter profile photo was 100% proof that tptb are playing with us via nick's social media)
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Post by BlackHalo Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:43 am

emusha wrote:
Serendipity11 wrote:
sbolduc wrote:I thought there was also a report that GA agreed with stating it was actually Ben's HTD today not Nicks.

GA - do we still think Nick's family flew somewhere yesterday??

This info came from me.  And yes, yesterday (4/28) all of Warsaw, IN was a-buzz about the filming happening that day.  

Which day again is "that day" sorry a bit confused hehe? Did anyone take pictures which you could please share  Praying

This was also posted on Twitter yesterday. I looked further down in her timeline and she looks to be from Warsaw.

kateliz_2012 · 19h 19 hours ago
Timeout @BachelorABC was filming in Warsaw and Winona yesterday and @theyearofelan didn't tell me. Like we could've done lunch.

If all the HTD are over they've done a good job of keeping it quiet.

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Post by nutty1 Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:46 am

emusha wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
emusha wrote:
Great input Serendipity we have been speculating on the boards of this exact scenario actually that they might have gone to F3 for the HTD!! We're not sure how/when the FDs took place but we have info that they spent 3 weeks in Ireland till E8 (I believe) which means they would have gone to F3 by HTD IMHO
Do you have confirmation about when his HTD took place? Is it like you shared last time i.e. over the past weekend?
I think the format was flipped and have said so for weeks when they went underground. Should the RC be today we would be looking at a day of travel (May1), then 2 LCD's (May2, May 3) 2MTP's(May4, May5) and FRC(May6). That provides no day offs and with days off still finishes up in normal time frame. (May 7/8). JMOAA. 
Should they be going into FD now you would be extending time frame to earliest May 11. Given with a couple days off, later than May 11th.

So the piece that's still confusing to me is that Mr. W and team sleuthed that FD is in Mexico this season -- I still think there likely is a twist in that regard if he was specifically saying FDs are in Mexico maybe they get an extra F3 set of dates in Mexico or an extra F2 set of dates in Mexico outside of LCDs/MTPs/FRC

with the timeline we're looking at where Ireland till E8, HTDs then the rest of the dates... How would an FD in Mexico fit in? There has to be some sort of different thing happening with the schedule
no idea

Maybe what they thought were FD's were really LCD's. I think the twist is 4 FD's and 3 HTD's. I agree totally with Kasha's timeline.


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Post by Kashathediva Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:48 am

If they are going to Puerto Vallarta, that is a hop away from LA. (under 3 hours). They could be doing the LCD/MTP/FRC there.



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Post by emusha Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:49 am

Has ICU posted anything about Ben's HTD on 28th yet?? are there any pictures from this filming that everyone's abuzz about in town even them setting up the equippment would be very helpful...?

Regarding Nick's HTD either his family was sequestered on 27th (to make it appear that he has HTD) or they had a HTD somewhere on that day... maybe Nick isn't even in the F4 JMHO tptb just have a vested interest in making it appear like he does

It is very convenient that Warsaw and Milwaukee are close together
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Post by julychild Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:51 am

Without pictures and there being just one tweet about Warsaw, to the best of my knowledge, that info could have as well come from someone who reads this board! As far as I'm concerned, no one's HTD has been concretely confirmed. We are all going on info which may or may not be correct. In fact I am seeing a lot of recycling, nothing new in a while. Kasha talked about the flipped FD/HTD thing weeks ago, this isn't new. If people are talking about it, they heard it here!

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Post by nutty1 Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:51 am

I just have a feeling Nick is in the F3. We haven't heard a scrap of evidence on any other possible HTD's, other than him and Shawn & Ben.


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Post by BlackHalo Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:58 am

julychild wrote:Without pictures and there being just one tweet about Warsaw, to the best of my knowledge, that info could have as well come from someone who reads this board! As far as I'm concerned, no one's HTD has been concretely confirmed. We are all going on info which may or may not be correct. In fact I am seeing a lot of recycling, nothing new in a while. Kasha  talked about the flipped FD/HTD thing weeks ago, this isn't new. If people are talking about it, they heard it here!

I mean I'm not saying that that tweet was confirmation but if she lives in Winona Lake or Warsaw it is possible she heard it from the people in her town and not this board.

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Post by emusha Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:11 am

Are there any photos from anyone about any of these supposedly overlapping HTD? 
I remember seeing a photo from Florida? Did we figure out if we recognize anyone in that photo and/or why they seem to think the bette was there?
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Post by GuardianAngel Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:19 am

emusha wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:I has shared two weeks ago or so, information that HTD's were going to be this week. It was later posted that Ben's HTD was the weekend of the 18/19th and that they were filming at the Youth Club. I speculated perhaps it was prefilming.

I had disagreed with Ben's HTD on the 18/19th and once again stated that HTD was going to be this week. Another poster advised that Nicks' htd was April 28th. I asked if it were possible to have two htd's in one day.

Serendipity11 then shared that the HTD was in fact Ben's on the 28th.

OHH I see -- so there's no solid info if Nick even got a HTD

How about marcker34's info that nick's family flew out on 27th for a 28th HTD -- could the HTD have been held on 27th instead?

snipped

About Nick. Yes the information was his family were flying, not driving, somewhere on the 27th. If that information is correct than I suppose the 27th may be possible.

I'm thinking HTD MTP's whatever will not be like in the past where they have a room full of family. JMHO

This is another indication I believed my information of a couple of weeks ago, and that Ben's HTD was not on the 19th.

[kateliz_2012 · 19h 19 hours ago
Timeout @BachelorABC was filming in Warsaw and Winona yesterday and @theyearofelan didn't tell me. Like we could've done lunch.

This person doesn't follow anything Bachelor related. She "found out" this information so it appears it was the talk around town kind of thing.

MiniDiva wrote:This could be insider info or just talk about Shawn Booth.  But this tweeter from Connecticut knows him and claims he is in the Final 4.  She is tweeting to a private tweeter that they are done filming, but could be the implication that they are done filming in his HTD.  This is speculation, but another piece of information to consider.  

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@KLM7386 they're done filming, it hasn't aired yet

So maybe Nick the 27th since we were told his family were flying, Ben the 28th since we have several sources indicating the 28th, and the 29th for Shawn. Then Kaitlyn flew right from there to LAX. IDK, just trying to see if the information given to us fits.

Also, I'm wondering remockered mentioned he was curious as to what Nick was doing in NYC on the 25th. Sorry if this has been sleuthed or speculated. Catched up on too many posts, information is overloaded. Do we have confirmation of that besides the tweeter thinking she may have seen his twin, or Nick himself? TYIA


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Post by GuardianAngel Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:20 am

emusha wrote:Are there any photos from anyone about any of these supposedly overlapping HTD? 
I remember seeing a photo from Florida? Did we figure out if we recognize anyone in that photo and/or why they seem to think the bette was there?

Sorry for the double post. Sean and Catherine were in Orlando in that very same spot. I'm thinking that tweet may have been related to them.


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