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Post by albean99 Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:26 am

Lots of confusion. Nick having a HTD has probably had as much confirmation as Ben. We just have 1 of Shawn and none of anyone else. I guess a f3 for HTD could be possible if Kasha's scenario is right but does that mean the FDs were in Ireland? That doesn't seem right to me after being there for 2 episodes. Usually the FDs are at a separate place.


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Post by emusha Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:32 am

GuardianAngel wrote:So maybe Nick the 27th since we were told his family were flying, Ben the 28th since we have several sources indicating the 28th, and the 29th for Shawn. Then Kaitlyn flew right from there to LAX. IDK, just trying to see if the information given to us fits.

Also, I'm wondering remockered mentioned he was curious as to what Nick was doing in NYC on the 25th. Sorry if this has been sleuthed or speculated. Catched up on too many posts, information is overloaded. Do we have confirmation of that besides the tweeter thinking she may have seen his twin, or Nick himself? TYIA

Maybe the HTD was on a private jet in the air  giggling just kidding. I imagine they would fly them somewhere close by -- and not get hotel rooms for them to avoid the logistical complications

the Shawn spoiler sounds like his HTD could have happened at any point but the person tweeting is discussing it on April 29 -- it could have been a few days prior that IHMO based purely on what they were saying about it - maybe even 4/26 and the person is just then hearing the rumor

in that scenario they could all fly into NYC from Ireland 4/25 (nick possible sighting) then K heads to her date the next day with shawn in CT and the other guys go home 
4/26 Shawn HTD
4/27 Nick HTD
4/28 Ben HTD 
4/29 K sighting in Lax - in LA for HTD RC


ETD :  yes good info GA on sean and catherine strange they'd think bachette with sean there...
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Post by GuardianAngel Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:38 am

emusha wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:So maybe Nick the 27th since we were told his family were flying, Ben the 28th since we have several sources indicating the 28th, and the 29th for Shawn. Then Kaitlyn flew right from there to LAX. IDK, just trying to see if the information given to us fits.

Also, I'm wondering remockered mentioned he was curious as to what Nick was doing in NYC on the 25th. Sorry if this has been sleuthed or speculated. Catched up on too many posts, information is overloaded. Do we have confirmation of that besides the tweeter thinking she may have seen his twin, or Nick himself? TYIA

Maybe the HTD was on a private jet in the air  giggling just kidding. I imagine they would fly them somewhere close by -- and not get hotel rooms for them to avoid the logistical complications

the Shawn spoiler sounds like his HTD could have happened at any point but the person tweeting is discussing it on April 29 -- it could have been a few days prior that IHMO based purely on what they were saying about it - maybe even 4/26 and the person is just then hearing the rumor

in that scenario they could all fly into NYC from Ireland 4/25 (nick possible sighting) then K heads to her date the next day with shawn in CT and the other guys go home 
4/26 Shawn HTD
4/27 Nick HTD
4/28 Ben HTD 
4/29 K sighting in Lax - in LA for HTD RC



ETD :  yes good info GA on sean and catherine strange they'd think bachette with sean there...

Thanks for spelling that out in black and white. That certainly seems possible. As far as other guys go home, maybe they had to stay in NYC, I can't see them going home.


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Post by emusha Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:44 am

ah right I should def have said sequestered Smiley  - I could see them being sequestered near their HTD location or NYC...the flown to LA for more sequestering after HTD to wait for RC

to clarify maracker34 AND serendipity11 both got info that HTDs for Ben and Nick were being filmed 4/28
the locations could be very close together 

speculation -- the Vialls flown in 4/27 for a breakfast on 4/28 then the rest of the day is with Ben...Nick's HTD solo time with K took place the night/afternoon/evening before


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Post by DMBFan Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:44 am

notarose wrote:
mindless wrote:I definitely think the pic is from earlier in the day, because the person who posted it flew from Calgary and she had an alarm set for 3 AM, so she must've had a morning flight to catch. So my guess is Kaitlyn landed around the same time as the Calgary flight at 12:39. These are the Delta options:

New York
Delta Air Lines DL422 12:50 12:27 5 57 Landed

Orlando
Delta Air Lines DL1659 12:55 12:51 5 54B Landed

Atlanta
Delta Air Lines DL1555 13:00 12:48 5 53A Landed

Could be.  Lots of people post much after the fact.

Here are the 13:00 arrivals ...because if the tweeter came direct from Canada she would need to go through customs thus more time.
https://www.airport-la.com/lax/arrivals?t=-2

The problem with that is international arrivals would not always use the same luggage claim as national - often different terminals and this is a massive airport.

I may be late to this party as I haven't read through all the posts yet, but Canadians actually clear US Customs in Calgary so when the girl who posted the pic, would have been able to go straight to baggage claim.

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Post by notarose Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:45 am

GuardianAngel wrote:
emusha wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:I has shared two weeks ago or so, information that HTD's were going to be this week. It was later posted that Ben's HTD was the weekend of the 18/19th and that they were filming at the Youth Club. I speculated perhaps it was prefilming.

I had disagreed with Ben's HTD on the 18/19th and once again stated that HTD was going to be this week. Another poster advised that Nicks' htd was April 28th. I asked if it were possible to have two htd's in one day.

Serendipity11 then shared that the HTD was in fact Ben's on the 28th.

OHH I see -- so there's no solid info if Nick even got a HTD

How about marcker34's info that nick's family flew out on 27th for a 28th HTD -- could the HTD have been held on 27th instead?

snipped

About Nick. Yes the information was his family were flying, not driving, somewhere on the 27th. If that information is correct than I suppose the 27th may be possible.

I'm thinking HTD MTP's whatever will not be like in the past where they have a room full of family. JMHO

This is another indication I believed my information of a couple of weeks ago, and that Ben's HTD was not on the 19th.

[kateliz_2012 · 19h 19 hours ago
Timeout @BachelorABC was filming in Warsaw and Winona yesterday and @theyearofelan didn't tell me. Like we could've done lunch.

This person doesn't follow anything Bachelor related. She "found out" this information so it appears it was the talk around town kind of thing.

MiniDiva wrote:This could be insider info or just talk about Shawn Booth.  But this tweeter from Connecticut knows him and claims he is in the Final 4.  She is tweeting to a private tweeter that they are done filming, but could be the implication that they are done filming in his HTD.  This is speculation, but another piece of information to consider.  

Wendy B  @Wendy7638 CT

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@milo_and_molly Shawn Booth...I think the only one from that family you might know is Jess?
Wendy B
‏@Wendy7638  1hr  And by The Bachelor...I meant The Bachelorette. But if he doesn't win apparently he might star on The Bachelor next year. So. Weird.

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@KLM7386 they're done filming, it hasn't aired yet

So maybe Nick the 27th since we were told his family were flying, Ben the 28th since we have several sources indicating the 28th, and the 29th for Shawn. Then Kaitlyn flew right from there to LAX. IDK, just trying to see if the information given to us fits.

Also, I'm wondering remockered mentioned he was curious as to what Nick was doing in NYC on the 25th. Sorry if this has been sleuthed or speculated. Catched up on too many posts, information is overloaded. Do we have confirmation of that besides the tweeter thinking she may have seen his twin, or Nick himself? TYIA

NYC 25th - Nick may have had a date that was an add on like Becca did before HTDs. NY may have been their gateway city to/from Ireland so that would explain why there.  I do think Nick would want to validate his own feelings more thoroughly, given what went down last season, before involving his family. Also, he did come in midway through filming so time becomes more precious if he is a serious contender.
No confirmation that it was actually Nick that the tweeter saw.  It's all speculative.

April 27th - yes to that being a possible meet the folks.  
The Vaills being gone from morning to evening then returning home wouldn't draw suspicion on their whereabouts. It would be like a day trip to Chicago which they may do often given both Nick & Sam live there. Plus, that's a really short flight if the destination is correct.  Why would they go there in a day early? 

April 18th/19th - yes, it could be preliminary filming.  I just wonder why they would do that.  If true, TPTB wants people to know Ben made it far. 

Shawn - there are a few red alerts that this guy is vying for next lead.  The first was him giving Kaitlyn a piggyback ride down the street at the GD.  A bit of a showman giggling. But of course he may actually be a sincere guy.  Will have to see. 

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Post by sdmom Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:50 am

Just to clarify: we have no proof Nick was in NYC on 4/25 other than that one tweet, correct? That person could be wrong , just like the other tweet of possible sighting of Kaitlyn in Vancouver, right?


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Post by notarose Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:54 am

sdmom wrote:Just to clarify: we have no proof Nick was in NYC on 4/25 other than that one tweet, correct? That person could be wrong , just like the other tweet of possible sighting of Kaitlyn in Vancouver, right?

:yes:
Last pic proof of Kaitlyn - Dublin then LA
Last pic proof of Nick - San Antonio


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Post by Serendipity11 Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:27 pm

notarose wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
emusha wrote:

OHH I see -- so there's no solid info if Nick even got a HTD

How about marcker34's info that nick's family flew out on 27th for a 28th HTD -- could the HTD have been held on 27th instead?

snipped

About Nick. Yes the information was his family were flying, not driving, somewhere on the 27th. If that information is correct than I suppose the 27th may be possible.

I'm thinking HTD MTP's whatever will not be like in the past where they have a room full of family. JMHO

This is another indication I believed my information of a couple of weeks ago, and that Ben's HTD was not on the 19th.

[kateliz_2012 · 19h 19 hours ago
Timeout @BachelorABC was filming in Warsaw and Winona yesterday and @theyearofelan didn't tell me. Like we could've done lunch.

This person doesn't follow anything Bachelor related. She "found out" this information so it appears it was the talk around town kind of thing.

MiniDiva wrote:This could be insider info or just talk about Shawn Booth.  But this tweeter from Connecticut knows him and claims he is in the Final 4.  She is tweeting to a private tweeter that they are done filming, but could be the implication that they are done filming in his HTD.  This is speculation, but another piece of information to consider.  

Wendy B  @Wendy7638 CT





So maybe Nick the 27th since we were told his family were flying, Ben the 28th since we have several sources indicating the 28th, and the 29th for Shawn. Then Kaitlyn flew right from there to LAX. IDK, just trying to see if the information given to us fits.

Also, I'm wondering remockered mentioned he was curious as to what Nick was doing in NYC on the 25th. Sorry if this has been sleuthed or speculated. Catched up on too many posts, information is overloaded. Do we have confirmation of that besides the tweeter thinking she may have seen his twin, or Nick himself? TYIA

NYC 25th - Nick may have had a date that was an add on like Becca did before HTDs. NY may have been their gateway city to/from Ireland so that would explain why there.  I do think Nick would want to validate his own feelings more thoroughly, given what went down last season, before involving his family. Also, he did come in midway through filming so time becomes more precious if he is a serious contender.
No confirmation that it was actually Nick that the tweeter saw.  It's all speculative.

April 27th - yes to that being a possible meet the folks.  
The Vaills being gone from morning to evening then returning home wouldn't draw suspicion on their whereabouts. It would be like a day trip to Chicago which they may do often given both Nick & Sam live there. Plus, that's a really short flight if the destination is correct.  Why would they go there in a day early? 

April 18th/19th - yes, it could be preliminary filming.  I just wonder why they would do that.  If true, TPTB wants people to know Ben made it far. 

Shawn - there are a few red alerts that this guy is vying for next lead.  The first was him giving Kaitlyn a piggyback ride down the street at the GD.  A bit of a showman giggling. But of course he may actually be a sincere guy.  Will have to see. 

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If the 18th/19th actually was prefilming in Warsaw, could it be possible that BEN is in the running for the next Bachelor??? I don't know as much as you guys do about all this, but if they are getting extra footage it could be to set him up for that... I know lots of Ben's friends would LOVE to see that happen!

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Post by notarose Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:32 pm

^ Ben & 2 possible filming dates
I really don't know if someone has been filmed twice or a crew has gone twice to a contestant's hometown at this point in filming.
He does seem like a great Bach candidate if that's how it plays out.


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Post by Brill Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:34 pm

I noticed this tweet.


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If the confirmation was on the 27th, I can't see them being anywhere else but there. That is a BIG deal.


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Post by GuardianAngel Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:34 pm

Serendipity11 wrote:snipped..

If the 18th/19th actually was prefilming in Warsaw, could it be possible that BEN is in the running for the next Bachelor???  I don't know as much as you guys do about all this, but if they are getting extra footage it could be to set him up for that...  I know lots of Ben's friends would LOVE to see that happen!

It could be footage for his intro before they air the HTD. They usually have a few minute schpiel showcasing the contestant and his background, where he's from, his interests etc.

Back to the Orlando speculation. With the ok by Motheroffive who posted this in Sean and Catherine's Fan Forum, I am sharing here. If you click through the pics, you can see all the activity, as well as the stage, the tweeter tweeted. IMO the tweeter meant Sean and Catherine. Unless there is a mystery guy from Orlando that we don't know about. As if we need one more.

http://smu.gs/1Fy9QPv


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