The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - #3 - Media - Tweets - IG - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers* - Discussion

Are we sure that there will be four HTDs? There is chatter in Warsaw that Ben is in the F3... With all the talk about things being different this season and big surprises to come, does it make sense that they did the fantasy dates prior to HTDs? Just want to reconsider this possibility because it lines up with rumors circulating in Warsaw.

emusha wrote:

sbolduc wrote:Thanks MiniDiva.

I think it is safe to say that Shawn and Ben are in F4. Still not convinced with Nick.... I keep flip flopping with him.

Interesting the tweet where she says apparently he might be the bachelor if he doesn't win, I really liked Shawn when he was first released but I am getting a feeling that is his game plan to be TB or that is what TPTB are setting him up for. We shall see.

I've had that feeling about him since the first moment I read his resignation letter prior to bette

I didn't put much thought into how TPTB groom/choose someone to be the next Bachelor until I heard the letter that Chris' sister wrote nominating him to be The Bachlor (I think that was a clip on DWTS) This letter was sent in prior to Andi's season. So Chris was selected to be on Andi's season with the intention of being the next lead, providing he was well received by the viewers. I'm sure they don't do this with every contestant but I would think you would have to with a few, I know I would if I were producing this show. I also go back to what Brian said in his podcast, that TP's came in to the f6, excluding Josh and Nick and said, you're not going to be Andi's chosen one but you're in the running for the next lead. I don't have any problem with TP grooming Shawn as the next lead, I'm sure it's done all the time, after all, it is a reality tv show

Thanks for the info Serendipity11! I also think there's a good chance only 3 men got HTD's. I mean there must be some reason they seem to have switched the order of the dates. Maybe they didn't want as many families involved and Kaitlyn wanted more time with the ones whose families she would meet.

I also wonder if Shawn was let go before the HTD's. That would mean he was in the F4 like that tweeter said AND finished filming.

Max64 wrote:

emusha wrote:

sbolduc wrote:Thanks MiniDiva.

I think it is safe to say that Shawn and Ben are in F4. Still not convinced with Nick.... I keep flip flopping with him.

Interesting the tweet where she says apparently he might be the bachelor if he doesn't win, I really liked Shawn when he was first released but I am getting a feeling that is his game plan to be TB or that is what TPTB are setting him up for. We shall see.

I've had that feeling about him since the first moment I read his resignation letter prior to bette

I didn't put much thought into how TPTB groom/choose someone to be the next Bachelor until I heard the letter that Chris' sister wrote nominating him to be The Bachlor  (I think that was a clip on DWTS) This letter was sent in prior to Andi's season.  So Chris was selected to be on Andi's season with the intention of being the next lead, providing he was well received by the viewers.  I'm sure they don't do this with every contestant but I would think you would have to with a few, I know I would if I were producing this show.  I also go back to what Brian said in his podcast, that TP's came in to the f6, excluding Josh and Nick and said,  you're not going to be Andi's chosen one but you're in the running for the next lead.  I don't have any problem with TP grooming Shawn as the next lead, I'm sure it's done all the time, after all, it is a reality tv show  

I didn't watch DWTS so I didn't know about the letter.  Interesting that that would be revealed. 

IMO, some of the guys who go on the show just want a 1 time experience but probably as many as half see it as a fun experience and knowing the odds are against them with 1 girl likely have being the next lead in the back of their mind all along. A few of those likely change their mind once they get immersed in the filming, realizing it's not something they want. TPTB has been recycling for years so being the next lead is a known possibility.  
Yep, I do think TPTB has been casting for next lead for a while. Probably those guys are also compatible in some way with the Bette too as they get a gazillion applications. Every lead has said they have a small number picked out as possible F1 very early on so all the rest are filler and, as you could suggest, in rehearsal for next lead. If TPTB didn't do this, the lead might take 4 to the end none of which would make good leads, or want to be next lead, and then they would be stuck.

Serendipity11 wrote:Are we sure that there will be four HTDs?  There is chatter in Warsaw that Ben is in the F3...  With all the talk about things being different this season and big surprises to come, does it make sense that they did the fantasy dates prior to HTDs?  Just want to reconsider this possibility because it lines up with rumors circulating in Warsaw.  

It's such a wonky season that I think anything is possible.
Perhaps there were only 3 HTDs or perhaps she told him he will be moving on because she is not having a epi 8 RC... just letting 1 go at the date instead and telling the others they will be at the next location.

Serendipity11 wrote:Are we sure that there will be four HTDs?  There is chatter in Warsaw that Ben is in the F3...  With all the talk about things being different this season and big surprises to come, does it make sense that they did the fantasy dates prior to HTDs?  Just want to reconsider this possibility because it lines up with rumors circulating in Warsaw.  

Great input Serendipity we have been speculating on the boards of this exact scenario actually that they might have gone to F3 for the HTD!! We're not sure how/when the FDs took place but we have info that they spent 3 weeks in Ireland till E8 (I believe) which means they would have gone to F3 by HTD IMHO
Do you have confirmation about when his HTD took place? Is it like you shared last time i.e. over the past weekend?

notarose wrote:

Max64 wrote:

emusha wrote:
I've had that feeling about him since the first moment I read his resignation letter prior to bette

I didn't put much thought into how TPTB groom/choose someone to be the next Bachelor until I heard the letter that Chris' sister wrote nominating him to be The Bachlor  (I think that was a clip on DWTS) This letter was sent in prior to Andi's season.  So Chris was selected to be on Andi's season with the intention of being the next lead, providing he was well received by the viewers.  I'm sure they don't do this with every contestant but I would think you would have to with a few, I know I would if I were producing this show.  I also go back to what Brian said in his podcast, that TP's came in to the f6, excluding Josh and Nick and said,  you're not going to be Andi's chosen one but you're in the running for the next lead.  I don't have any problem with TP grooming Shawn as the next lead, I'm sure it's done all the time, after all, it is a reality tv show  

I didn't watch DWTS so I didn't know about the letter.  Interesting that that would be revealed. 

IMO, some of the guys who go on the show just want a 1 time experience but probably as many as half see it as a fun experience and knowing the odds are against them with 1 girl likely have being the next lead in the back of their mind all along. A few of those likely change their mind once they get immersed in the filming, realizing it's not something they want. TPTB has been recycling for years so being the next lead is a known possibility.  
Yep, I do think TPTB has been casting for next lead for a while. Probably those guys are also compatible in some way with the Bette too as they get a gazillion applications. Every lead has said they have a small number picked out as possible F1 very early on so all the rest are filler and, as you could suggest, in rehearsal for next lead. If TPTB didn't do this, the lead might take 4 to the end none of which would make good leads, or want to be next lead, and then they would be stuck.

ITA from the bunch this year I think ChrisStan and Shawn are in contention for TB -- I think tptb tell some of the guys about the fact that they're in contention for the Bach making them treat the process differently - Shawn's resignation letter to me was a clear sign that he was receiving strongly worded encouragement about his run on the show this season (and probably also beyond this season -- leading him to quit a job rather than take leave of absence and keep extending it then maybe quitting based on what he sees happening). I say this because what if shawn didn't make it past epi 1? that would have been a silly move for him to quit a job before figuring another path for himself unless someone made some suggestions about the possibilities and about how long he'll be on the show...there's no need to quit right away really he could simply quit when it was looking likely that he'd stay long...unless he was told something else JMHO

Serendipity11 wrote:

sbolduc wrote:I thought there was also a report that GA agreed with stating it was actually Ben's HTD today not Nicks.

GA - do we still think Nick's family flew somewhere yesterday??

This info came from me.  And yes, yesterday (4/28) all of Warsaw, IN was a-buzz about the filming happening that day.  

Which day again is "that day" sorry a bit confused hehe? Did anyone take pictures which you could please share 

emusha wrote:

Serendipity11 wrote:Are we sure that there will be four HTDs?  There is chatter in Warsaw that Ben is in the F3...  With all the talk about things being different this season and big surprises to come, does it make sense that they did the fantasy dates prior to HTDs?  Just want to reconsider this possibility because it lines up with rumors circulating in Warsaw.  

Great input Serendipity we have been speculating on the boards of this exact scenario actually that they might have gone to F3 for the HTD!! We're not sure how/when the FDs took place but we have info that they spent 3 weeks in Ireland till E8 (I believe) which means they would have gone to F3 by HTD IMHO
Do you have confirmation about when his HTD took place? Is it like you shared last time i.e. over the past weekend?

I think the format was flipped and have said so for weeks when they went underground. Should the RC be today we would be looking at a day of travel (May1), then 2 LCD's (May2, May 3) 2MTP's(May4, May5) and FRC(May6). That provides no day offs and with days off still finishes up in normal time frame. (May 7/8). JMOAA. 
Should they be going into FD now you would be extending time frame to earliest May 11. Given with a couple days off, later than May 11th.

I has shared two weeks ago or so, information that HTD's were going to be this week. It was later posted that Ben's HTD was the weekend of the 18/19th and that they were filming at the Youth Club. I speculated perhaps it was prefilming.

I had disagreed with Ben's HTD on the 18/19th and once again stated that HTD was going to be this week. Another poster advised that Nicks' htd was April 28th. I asked if it were possible to have two htd's in one day.

Serendipity11 then shared that the HTD was in fact Ben's on the 28th.

So sounding like Kasha's speculation was right and they reached back into the archives for Byron's script/template and are following it to a tee since many newer fans prob didn't even watch that season and they can pass it off as "shaking things up" and "throwing out the rules" etc. presenting it as a departure from the norm.

Better up the odds of Nick being F1.

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