The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Filming Schedule - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

emusha wrote:

Nonina430 wrote:Élan landed at 3 PM, Ca time. Driver was waiting outside airport.
Via periscope inside sedan. He's happy,happy. He was going to
Whole Foods than where ever to start cooking. Shot the view
beautiful day in SF.

Thanks!!
Interesting point umn -- I too don't give too much attention to Elan's whereabouts but...
I could see him taking today to hang out with friends then driving to Granite Bay in the morning to start HTD filming...

If I were to guess based on what we know of the guys...I'd consider what people who know Ben have said about whether or not they can see Ben H with K (she seems less matched with his faith than Britt would be and couldn't see her with him) -- check his thread + the info on Joe's social media makes him sound like a rash, macho type that's the opposite of a guy K had already gone for which is CS -- a very emotionally mature and sensitive guy...IMHO he really doesn't sound like a match with K based on his social media

I could be off...but this is what I predict is gonna happen starting tomorrow based on what we have seen. Just my  

4/26 - HTD -- Chris (Granite Bay, CA)
4/27 - Travel
4/28 - HTD -- Nick (Milwaukee, WI)
4/29 - Travel
4/30 - HTD -- Shawn (Windsor Locks, CT)
5/1 - Travel
5/2 - HTD -- Jared (Providence, RI)

ETA: I could see these dates moving forward one day to end next sunday.

4/27 - HTD -- Chris (Granite Bay, CA)
4/28 - Travel
4/29 - HTD -- Nick (Milwaukee, WI)
4/30 - Travel
5/1 - HTD -- Shawn (Windsor Locks, CT)
5/2 - Travel
5/3 - HTD -- Jared (Providence, RI)

I am curious as to how we are discounting the post made regarding Ben's HTD on Apr 19 which by what I had figured out previous to epi 7 schedule when those dates should be and the 19th would of been the very first HTD.

Serendipity11 on Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:14 am
Hello everyone! I am friends with Ben and have been watching this forum since filming began. It's been fun to keep up with Ben's progress through your sleuthing Smiley

I have held off on contributing until now, but I have just recently received some information that will probably help you all. Two different sources have confirmed that the Bachelorette crew has been in Warsaw (Ben's hometown) filming. Supposedly this happened this past weekend... So, Ben H is one of the men that made it to hometowns!

From Ben's thread. The 19th was on the Sunday, so even if it happened the Saturday the 18th, it's still possible to be true and they only needed the 16th/17th for travel.

If that's a false statement(Which I don't think it is) then what has happened in the 7 days between the 16th and now? Have they put another epi in there to account for those days?

IMO, they would of flown from Kerry to Boston then gotten flights from there to wherever the HTD's are. I think what is extremely possible is that they had Ben's on the 19th as a poster said it was on that weekend, then would of had Ben's, and any number of the east coast guys. I know it's been said that Nick had a htd, but we again, don't have proof. We are still down to the F6 with no real knowledge of who has a HTD besides Ben(maybe per poster above). I still think the last HTD is today in Cali. From there, they could easily fly to Mexico is thta is were indeed the FD's are going to be as MrWrite feels.

Epi 8 HTD's Ben, Nick
apr 17/18 travel back to USA
apr 19: HTD1 Ben
apr 20: travel
apr 21: HTD2
apr 22: travel
apr 23: HTD3
apr 24: travel
apr 25: HTD4
apr 26: RC 8

OK, I am taking a MAJORLY HUGE if stance with this BUT if the FD's were actually before the HTD's, how in the world would the radio station/F3 families know if their homes will get the HTD's, especially if the RC will likely be on 4/26?  THe fact that the radio station and or nick's family knows that he's had a HTD to me signals that the HTD's come before the FD's.  If that's the case then there would likely of had HTD's already and the radio station/us find out a different date other than what the date actually happens on.  Hope I didn't lose you all there(I have sure confused myself enough over the last couple of days).

IF and that's a big IF the FD's happened before the HTD's, then this is what the schedule could look like.

Epi 8   FD
apr 17/18 travel  to Mexico
apr 19:  FD1
apr 20:  day off
apr 21: FD2
apr 22: day off
apr 23:  FD3
apr 24:  day off
apr 25:  FD4  
apr 26: RC 8


Epi 9   HTD
4/27 travel
4/28 HTD1
4/29 travel
4/30 HTD2
5/1  travel
5/2  HTD3
5/3 RC

Epi 11
5/4 travel
5/5  MTP1
5/6  MTP2
5/7  LCD1
5/8  LCD2
5/9 day off
5/10 FRC


If the HTD's happened in the right sequence then it should go as:


Epi 8   HTD's    Ben, Nick
apr 17/18 travel back to USA
apr 19:  HTD1    Ben(because of the post saying there was filming in Warsaw
apr 20:  travel
apr 21: HTD2
apr 22: travel
apr 23:  HTD3
apr 24:  travel
apr 25:  HTD4  
apr 26: RC 8


Epi 9  FD's
4/27 travel
4/28 FD1
4/29 off
4/30 FD2
5/1 off
5/2 FD3
5/3 RC 9

Epi 10
5/4  travel
5/5 MTP1
5/6 MTP2
5/7 LCD1
5/8 LCD2
5/9 day off/rings
5/10 FRC


my big beef with the idea that the FD's happened before the HTD's, how could the homes know that theirs was getting a HTD before the FD RC even happened.  Especially with what was said about Nicks.  That was a full ten days between the announcement and when his HTD was supposed to happen.  IMO, it's just too long to be believeable.

IMO, we have finished up with the HTD's and it was a foiler action to keep the sleuthers/fans at bay throughout the HTD schedule.


ETA:    I apologize for all my posts in a row. Just a question, but how do we know absolutely that Joe and Ben aren't getting HTD's. IMO, we don't have any definitive results on that unless I missed something huge and for example, Ben's HTD of Warsaw, filming was spotted there and was posted about, so very curious as to how we feel that's not happening now. Since we have no updates on any of the F6 except for Nick's camp that actually came out with htd notice complete with a date for it before the epi 7 RC. How in the world does his camp know he got one and when for that matter, especially when that deciding RC hadn't happened yet?

AL

How far in advance do you think the families are contacted? 
Do you think typically the final 6 homes could be told it is a possibility?

If it is the usual epi 7 then only the GD Rose guy knows early. The other 3 are revealed at the RC.
If they changed it to FD then let's say they're were 4 to begin with; 3 would still be revealed at the RC. 
Both end up being basically the same.

I still think 4 FD may not be correct.  No proof though.

notarose wrote:AL

How far in advance do you think the families are contacted? 
Do you think typically the final 6 homes could be told it is a possibility?

If it is the usual epi 7 then only the GD Rose guy knows early. The other 3 are revealed at the RC.
If they changed it to FD then let's say they're were 4 to begin with; 3 would still be revealed at the RC. 
Both end up being basically the same.

I still think 4 FD may not be correct.  No proof though.

But what schedule?  Meaning, I think the HTD's are happening before the FD's and that the F4 may be Shawn, Ben, Jared and Joe.  I don't think that the radio station would know when the HTD was happening IF it even was at all.  IMO, there is some major fleissing happening.  Something tells me that we are looking at a normal schedule but the Fleiss/Elan spin cycle is reving in overdrive this season.

My question to you though, why would the radio station know Nick would get a HTD before the epi 7 RC especially if HTD's don't happen till AFTER the FD's.  To me, that makes absolutely no sense and it makes it even more subject to questioning, given what I was told a while back.  Albeit I haven't heard anymore on it.

It just seems that Joe and Ben aren't even a thought according to some thoughts that were posted, even though there was activity at Ben's place filming the HTD in Warsaw.

IMO, it is a normal filming schedule with regards to HTD's first, then the FD's.

ETA: Considering the first date hadn't even happened yet in epi 7, the news was breaking about how Nick will have a HTD, then a day/two later we heard it would be Apr 28. How could they definitively say that when epi 7 RC hadn't even happened yet.

I have no idea who the HTD guys are. 
IMO any of the guys who went to Ireland are possible HTDs.  There are no facts beyond the blurry pics of the San Antonio RC. That RC was obviously staged for the public. 

I'm asking/ wondering if it is known how much advance notice families typically get before the lead arrives at their home.

Aunties_Love wrote:

notarose wrote:AL

How far in advance do you think the families are contacted? 
Do you think typically the final 6 homes could be told it is a possibility?

If it is the usual epi 7 then only the GD Rose guy knows early. The other 3 are revealed at the RC.
If they changed it to FD then let's say they're were 4 to begin with; 3 would still be revealed at the RC. 
Both end up being basically the same.

I still think 4 FD may not be correct.  No proof though.

But what schedule?  Meaning, I think the HTD's are happening before the FD's and that the F4 may be Shawn, Ben, Jared and Joe.  I don't think that the radio station would know when the HTD was happening IF it even was at all.  IMO, there is some major fleissing happening.  Something tells me that we are looking at a normal schedule but the Fleiss/Elan spin cycle is reving in overdrive this season.

My question to you though, why would the radio station know Nick would get a HTD before the epi 7 RC especially if HTD's don't happen till AFTER the FD's.  To me, that makes absolutely no sense and it makes it even more subject to questioning, given what I was told a while back.  Albeit I haven't heard anymore on it.

It just seems that Joe and Ben aren't even a thought according to some thoughts that were posted, even though there was activity at Ben's place filming the HTD in Warsaw.

IMO, it is a normal filming schedule with regards to HTD's first, then the FD's.

ETA:  Considering the first date hadn't even happened yet in epi 7, the news was breaking about how Nick will have a HTD, then a day/two later we heard it would be Apr 28.  How could they definitively say that when epi 7 RC hadn't even happened yet.

I think Joe is still there too. His twitter hasn't been touched when he was pretty active beforehand. Tanner followed both Joe and Ben, they have not followed back.

Do Chris and Jared have SM accounts?

notarose wrote:I have no idea who the HTD guys are. 
IMO any of the guys who went to Ireland are possible HTDs.  There are no facts beyond the blurry pics of the San Antonio RC. That RC was obviously staged for the public. 

I'm asking/ wondering if it is known how much advance notice families typically get before the lead arrives at their home.

I thought previously that it would be epi 7 and if someone got a rose on their date that they'd know. Not when the first date in epi 7 hadn't even been filmed yet. See, we had the radio station saying that Nick was getting a HTD before the first date was even filmed. How in the world can that be known..Was it a complete set up from the word go and would that only be known to Nick and producers without Kait feeling it? IMO, something is hokey about all of it and with what I was told, I am really skeptical as to what's happened.

I checked the filming comission in the Okanagan where Kait's family stay in the summer and in Vancouver and there are no filming dates that are coming up for a reality series, dating series, and such that would even resemble the show and the dates that filming may happen. Because of that, I am also skeptical as to them even filming the last week in any of those locations as well.

BlackHalo wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

notarose wrote:AL

How far in advance do you think the families are contacted? 
Do you think typically the final 6 homes could be told it is a possibility?

If it is the usual epi 7 then only the GD Rose guy knows early. The other 3 are revealed at the RC.
If they changed it to FD then let's say they're were 4 to begin with; 3 would still be revealed at the RC. 
Both end up being basically the same.

I still think 4 FD may not be correct.  No proof though.

But what schedule?  Meaning, I think the HTD's are happening before the FD's and that the F4 may be Shawn, Ben, Jared and Joe.  I don't think that the radio station would know when the HTD was happening IF it even was at all.  IMO, there is some major fleissing happening.  Something tells me that we are looking at a normal schedule but the Fleiss/Elan spin cycle is reving in overdrive this season.

My question to you though, why would the radio station know Nick would get a HTD before the epi 7 RC especially if HTD's don't happen till AFTER the FD's.  To me, that makes absolutely no sense and it makes it even more subject to questioning, given what I was told a while back.  Albeit I haven't heard anymore on it.

It just seems that Joe and Ben aren't even a thought according to some thoughts that were posted, even though there was activity at Ben's place filming the HTD in Warsaw.

IMO, it is a normal filming schedule with regards to HTD's first, then the FD's.

ETA:  Considering the first date hadn't even happened yet in epi 7, the news was breaking about how Nick will have a HTD, then a day/two later we heard it would be Apr 28.  How could they definitively say that when epi 7 RC hadn't even happened yet.

I think Joe is still there too. His twitter hasn't been touched when he was pretty active beforehand. Tanner followed both Joe and Ben, they have not followed back.

Do Chris and Jared have SM accounts?

Chris does, but he's not a SM junkie so to speak. As far as Jared, I can't find anything on him.

Maybe someone else knows.

Aunties_Love wrote:

notarose wrote:I have no idea who the HTD guys are. 
IMO any of the guys who went to Ireland are possible HTDs.  There are no facts beyond the blurry pics of the San Antonio RC. That RC was obviously staged for the public. 

I'm asking/ wondering if it is known how much advance notice families typically get before the lead arrives at their home.

I thought previously that it would be epi 7 and if someone got a rose on their date that they'd know.  Not when the first date in epi 7 hadn't even been filmed yet. See, we had the radio station saying that Nick was getting a HTD before the first date was even filmed.  How in the world can that be known..Was it a complete set up from the word go and would that only be known to Nick and producers without Kait feeling it?  IMO, something is hokey about all of it and with what I was told, I am really skeptical as to what's happened.

I checked the filming comission in the Okanagan where Kait's family stay in the summer and in Vancouver and there are no filming dates that are coming up for a reality series, dating series, and such that would even resemble the show and the dates that filming may happen. Because of that, I am also skeptical as to them even filming the last week in any of those locations as well.

I am aware of the radio station saying they think a HTD will occur. No clue how accurate that is.  
Personally I don't think Nick is at the centre of any conspiracy. If that were the case you would have to shine the light on Kaitlyn as well.  When Jordan returned in the Bach,  Kaitlyn said to her that she didn't feel it was fair because the girls who were still there had already developed relationships with Chris...yet Kaitlyn herself decides to start dating someone who wasn't even there night 1. 

Back to the original question. Wow, I didn't know her family spent time in the Okanagan. Great sleuthing  

The reason I'm questioning their being 5 FD dates is because, well to put it bluntly, it gets sleazy. A lot of viewers already assume it's all about sex.  Adding an additional guy, when Kaitlyn herself said "it's to be assumed" into the mix, I think is damaging to the reputation of lead regardless if that lead is male or female.  

I have no idea if the FD/HTD switch occurred. It just seems odd that so many days have passed since the RC in San Antonio and none of the guys have been seen with Kaitlyn anywhere.

Aunties_Love wrote:

my big beef with the idea that the FD's happened before the HTD's, how could the homes know that theirs was getting a HTD before the FD RC even happened.  Especially with what was said about Nicks.  That was a full ten days between the announcement and when his HTD was supposed to happen.  IMO, it's just too long to be believeable.

I'd shared a theory upthread (again, a lot of it is speculation at this point but worth exploring all the possible options ) that it could be possible that K chose her F3 in Ireland -- then took them all to FD and HTDs -- she might have negotiated more time with fewer people given how torn up she was with CS about having too little time...I imagine she could try to negotiate that at the very beginning of the season. Mr. W says there's a twist -- it's a matter of figuring out what it is....I find it hard to believe HTDs already happened simply based on there being very little /no murmurings about sightings etc in the towns...and at all anywhere

The Warsaw/Ben HTD spoiler is indeed very interesting because as many have pointed out (including ICU who lives there and knows Ben) there was no buzz in town about people filming, for such a small town such as that (and serendipity's spoiler points to a quite public date at the charity) it should be expected that at least there'd be some gossip in the town, the local news paper picking it up and some pictures...? and ICU says it'd be highly likely it'd be heard about in town if it did take place already but strangely, there's no word about it so far...It's also worth remembering that Serendipity heard that filming happened but didn't personally witness it...

I guess it's also possible HTD's are being segmented off as well FD - HTD - FD - HTD or something like that...there are two sources indicated HTDs are next week (GA and a poster who knows nick's family)

notarose wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

notarose wrote:I have no idea who the HTD guys are. 
IMO any of the guys who went to Ireland are possible HTDs.  There are no facts beyond the blurry pics of the San Antonio RC. That RC was obviously staged for the public. 

I'm asking/ wondering if it is known how much advance notice families typically get before the lead arrives at their home.

I thought previously that it would be epi 7 and if someone got a rose on their date that they'd know.  Not when the first date in epi 7 hadn't even been filmed yet. See, we had the radio station saying that Nick was getting a HTD before the first date was even filmed.  How in the world can that be known..Was it a complete set up from the word go and would that only be known to Nick and producers without Kait feeling it?  IMO, something is hokey about all of it and with what I was told, I am really skeptical as to what's happened.

I checked the filming comission in the Okanagan where Kait's family stay in the summer and in Vancouver and there are no filming dates that are coming up for a reality series, dating series, and such that would even resemble the show and the dates that filming may happen. Because of that, I am also skeptical as to them even filming the last week in any of those locations as well.

I am aware of the radio station saying they think a HTD will occur. No clue how accurate that is.  
Personally I don't think Nick is at the centre of any conspiracy. If that were the case you would have to shine the light on Kaitlyn as well.  When Jordan returned in the Bach,  Kaitlyn said to her that she didn't feel it was fair because the girls who were still there had already developed relationships with Chris...yet Kaitlyn herself decides to start dating someone who wasn't even there night 1. 

Back to the original question. Wow, I didn't know her family spent time in the Okanagan. Great sleuthing  

The reason I'm questioning their being 5 FD dates is because, well to put it bluntly, it gets sleazy. A lot of viewers already assume it's all about sex.  Adding an additional guy, when Kaitlyn herself said "it's to be assumed" into the mix, I think is damaging to the reputation of lead regardless if that lead is male or female.  

I have no idea if the FD/HTD switch occurred. It just seems odd that so many days have passed since the RC in San Antonio and none of the guys have been seen with Kaitlyn anywhere.

Do you mean 4 FD's? I think that in epi 7 they went from 6 to 4. The only other option I think is maybe there was plans all along to bring it down to 5 and have an extra epi somewhere but I honestly don't see how/where that would happen and keep on schedule. In my heart of hearts, I think that there was epi 7 in Ireland, then HTD's happened and the RC will be on 4/26. I believe they are heading to their FD locale on Monday 4/27

 It may very well be business as usual.
I really hope someone sights Kaitlyn at the airport or her and a guy at a location soon so we have more to go on.