Re: Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Whitney Bischoff - Fan Forum - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Discussion

[MiniDiva]

Lucas15.  Thank you for summarizing the article for us.  

So Chris was "in love" with both his F2 which confuses me.

[Lucas15]

Separate from the article is a bit of insight that relates to what seemed to be Chris's greatest doubt about Whitney - could she leave a great career to become a farm "momma" in Arlington IA?

It's been my observation over the years as I see families over multiple generations that children build on and mimic or modify their own childhood. Since families are rarely totally "centered" in all things it's a like a pendulum. If parents were strict and the children resented that their "pendulum" with swing - perhaps too far - to the lenient side of child rearing. We each have a pendulum that either is as extreme in one direction as our parents were (if we agreed with them) or is the polar opposite of how we were raised (if we disagreed with how we were raised).

So what we know about Whitney is that her father left her at a very early age and her mother had to work AND be a mother, and was suddenly (and traumatically) lost to illness before Whitney could enjoy a relationship with her in her adult years. It's my opinion that Whitney wants her own pendulum to swing in the opposite direction if she can make it happen; that she wants a life where she can raise her children with total focus on being a mother and not having to balance that with providing for her family financially as well.

Therefore when Whitney says she is fine with leaving her career as a fall back "safety net" to be a stay-at-home-mom and raise a family I believe her because I think that's exactly what she wants - she wants to give her children what she probably wanted and did not have.

[Idlemess]

Did Chris tell any of his F3 he was "falling in love?" (Sorry, haven't seen the show in 2weeks) Falling in love and being in love is slightly different imo

[Guest]

Did Chris tell any of his F3 he was "falling in love?" (Sorry, haven't seen the show in 2weeks) Falling in love and being in love is slightly different imo

he told Kaitlyn to her face he was falling in love. I don't remember if he said it to Becca because admittedly I zoned out a little because I was bored and the constant virgin talk.

Chris in an ITM said he was falling in love with Whitney and then later when CH asked him if he was falling in love with Whitney he said he can't quite say that. So I was confused.

[Lucas15]

So Chris was "in love" with both his F2 which confuses me.

I think that will always be confusing to any one of us who has never had that kind of experience - which is just about all of us. But many leads report the exact same thing and I think it stems from the manipulation the show puts them through. They are encouraged to separate each relationship from each other and explore which one or ones best fit what they want. The environment and dating sequences support doing just that. So the lead really does experience feelings for all of the final several contestants.

They often call it "in love" but I don't. Maybe "in like" or maybe "in lust" or maybe just that they see how a relationship might progress and develop into love with more than one person. Remember, there have been many leads who say that you don't really fall in love during filming - if it happens it begins after filming is all over and you start a real monogamous relationship with F1.

[MiniDiva]

Thanks again Lucas for your perspective.  This is the point with Chris that throws me and would hope that he is genuinely in love with his chosen lady before he proposes.  But his is not the only season that ends and photo finish and it continues to perplex me every time.

[Idlemess]

Did Chris tell any of his F3 he was "falling in love?" (Sorry, haven't seen the show in 2weeks) Falling in love and being in love is slightly different imo

he told Kaitlyn to her face he was falling in love. I don't remember if he said it to Becca because admittedly I zoned out a little because I was bored and the constant virgin talk.

Chris in an ITM said he was falling in love with Whitney and then later when CH asked him if he was falling in love with Whitney he said he can't quite say that. So I was confused.

That's very telling 'he can't quite say that" What CAN he say? because if he already knows he loves her he wouldn't be "falling" in love, he would be IN love.

Heaven helps us with the show

Any thoughts on Chris saying "mother" to describe Whitney? Most men tends to see a potential spouse or soul mate as they see their mother of having the same qualities, ethics, work habits etc

[sanlee088]

I'm thinking that he said she looked like a mother because that is how he sees her. That's a great compliment IMO. She's been through so much losing her mother and her mother raising her without a father, I just feel that it wasn't a bad thing for him to say about her. I'm thinking she probably loved it. JMO though.

[Idlemess]

And of course, Whitney posting a pic of herself w her mother agrees. There's nothing like a mother's love

[Jeepers]

I .. for some reason .. recall one of the gals saying she was "the mom" in the house

[Kashathediva]

I think the Mother comment has to be taken in context.
If it had come from Bob Guiney or Jesse Palmer, it might not be taken so nicely.
It was said by 33 yr old bachelor concerned with moving into the next phase of his life marriage and family. So that term might have been code for his whole, entire package.

[Beeleever]

It seems like Chris, in year 10 of his 5-year plan, feels an urgency to be a husband and father. So it makes sense that he is looking for a woman that is ready to be a wife and mother.

Also, I have been told that they get coached on how to respond post show, so I'm not putting too much stock in a comment they were coached to say. I'm not saying he is not sincere with his answers, but there is a specific reason for them and they fit in with the edit. Just some things to ponder on a Sunday!

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