Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Fan Forum - General Discussion Thread #3

[Guest]

I think trust definitely could have be an issue. I always thought it was odd how she constantly razzed him about blondes, I realize it may have been teasing and in fun, but to me if you bring that stuff up all the time, it shows an underlying insecurity or problem.

[Alanna]

I think trust definitely could have be an issue. I always thought it was odd how she constantly razzed him about blondes, I realize it may have been teasing and in fun, but to me if you bring that stuff up all the time, it shows an underlying insecurity or problem.

There was definitely something going on there regarding the blonde insecurities in retrospect. It was a "little" strange that there were no nye pics of them with fans but PLENTY with Josh and blonde girls. Dollars to donuts, his next gf is a blonde because I definitely believe that sometimes our worst fears almost become premonitions and Josh getting with a blonde was top on Andi's imo.

[Guest]

A lot of interesting comments. But the truth is we'll never know what caused the breakup unless they tell us. But, they probably won't say because it is so private and should be private.

Well, until Andi deletes, future Mrs. Murray I'll still check on this forum. When she does delete it though to me it's a clear sign that it is over. She or he or both have given up.

"Elle" your post was very nicely written.

You know speaking to my grandpa the other day, he still remembers his great love, Angie her name was. He was SO in love with her and even tears up talking about her. Their love was a bit of a roller-coaster but sounds romantic. Unfortunately, the relationship didn't work out because of circumstances. He married my grandma who he loves and is happy with, but no one compares to Angie. I think Andi and Josh are great loves but sometimes you don't end up with your great love.

[notarose]

Apologies in advance if this has already been posted.
http://www.tvguide.com/news/bachelor-chris-harrison-andi-josh-breakup-1092027/

QUOTE:
You also spoke to Andi and Josh, who broke up just a few days later. Did you know? 
Harrison: I had no clue. The only thing was that I felt [they] were a little off, but... they seemed happy and played the part. By no means did I know they were broken up and did that interview because honestly, having been through a crappy breakup, I would've protected it more and stayed away from wedding talk and I wouldn't have put them on the spot. That had to be horribly uncomfortable and awkward knowing they were probably going to break up. I was surprised, considering everyone seemed good on Monday. I hope Andi will sit down with me whenever the time is right for her because I'm interested [to know what happened]; it felt sudden to call it quits. But I hope people give them a break.

Sounds like CH/TPTB plan to have Andi interviewed at some point - even though CH says he "would like to sit down with Andi" I think if TPTB want it she will be obligated by contract. No mention of Josh being there however if they truly remain friends then there would be no issue with them being interviewed together.

[AnandaMarie]

I think the thing about blondes was just teasing. I remember the Jezebel interview where Andi said that Josh is just her partner through it all. She said that he's the last person that she wants to talk to at night and the first person that she wants to talk to when she wakes up. I think that sounds like love and trust to me.

[bachfan300]

Hi guys! Never posted here before but just saw this and thought I'd bring it over

From Chris Harrison's Bachelor blog:
Unfortunately I start this week's blog with the surprising and sad news that Andi and Josh have broken up. I have been asked by many of you if we already knew before I interviewed them on the red carpet premiere show, where they talked about their wedding plans, and the answer is no. I understand that some of you may feel deceived, but I do not. Having gone through a very public personal breakup myself, I understand keeping up appearances until both parties are ready to make an announcement. In my case, I had kids and family to consider, so there were times when I, too, had to do interviews and make appearances while I knew full well what was going to come out just days later. My responsibility was to my family, not to the world, and I understand that Andi and Josh are approaching things the same way. So I say to Andi and Josh that I'm very sorry and I completely understand why they did what they did. I'm also sorry for the timing of all this, and that they had to feel the need to go through the paces like they did. I know that must have been painful and awkward for them. I don't know the details of why they broke up; Andi and Josh will decide if they ever want to share the reasons, and that's completely up to them. I know the two of them loved each other very much and they shared a beautiful relationship, and again, I wish both of them happiness.
https://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/chris-harrison--bachelor--blog-episode-2-030958011.html

[Maggenzm]

I think trust definitely could have be an issue. I always thought it was odd how she constantly razzed him about blondes, I realize it may have been teasing and in fun, but to me if you bring that stuff up all the time, it shows an underlying insecurity or problem.

Bingo!

[Maggenzm]

I think the thing about blondes was just teasing. I remember the Jezebel interview where Andi said that Josh is just her partner through it all. She said that he's the last person that she wants to talk to at night and the first person that she wants to talk to when she wakes up. I think that sounds like love and trust to me.

I wouldn't say she didn't trust him, I would however say that she has trust issues about the relationship, "it was too good to be true". I can understand having something so great and wondering, if something is going to happen to break it off. So, she had fears, not because of something Josh did, but because it is the " best " she has ever had. These are Andi's fears based on her past relationships and she has to get over them before she can have a healthy relationship with Josh or anyone else. So, until she removes the "future Mrs Murray", I don't it 's completely over. I am a over thinker, so I know what she is doing, she is is thinking, thinking, and thinking, and of course, crying while thinking.JMO

[AnandaMarie]

I think the thing about blondes was just teasing. I remember the Jezebel interview where Andi said that Josh is just her partner through it all. She said that he's the last person that she wants to talk to at night and the first person that she wants to talk to when she wakes up. I think that sounds like love and trust to me.

I wouldn't say she didn't trust him, I would however say that she has trust issues about the relationship, "it was too good to be true". I can understand having something so great and wondering, if something is going to happen to break it off. So, she had fears, not because of something Josh did, but because it is the " best " she has ever had. These are Andi's fears based on her past relationships and she has to get over them before she can't have a healthy relationship with Josh or anyone else. So, until she removes the "future Mrs Murray", I don't it 's completely over.JMO

I do hope that its not completely over. And I think that the trust thing was an issue while the show was airing. I feel that after she spent two months with Josh, in hiding almost 24/7, those trust issues were gone. However, I think Andi may have become a little too focused on the business opportunities and less on having a family. But I think that having a husband and family is what she wanted in the first place. We all make mistakes and get carried away sometimes, but I hope that she can realize what she wanted in the first place and realize how much she loved Josh and how much he loved and I just hope that she realizes that nothing is worth the relationship that she had with Josh.

[nannymargie]

I think the thing about blondes was just teasing. I remember the Jezebel interview where Andi said that Josh is just her partner through it all. She said that he's the last person that she wants to talk to at night and the first person that she wants to talk to when she wakes up. I think that sounds like love and trust to me.

I wouldn't say she didn't trust him, I would however say that she has trust issues about the relationship, "it was too good to be true". I can understand having something so great and wondering, if something is going to happen to break it off. So, she had fears, not because of something Josh did, but because it is the " best " she has ever had. These are Andi's fears based on her past relationships and she has to get over them before she can have a healthy relationship with Josh or anyone else. So, until she removes the "future Mrs Murray", I don't it 's completely over. I am a over thinker, so I know what she is doing, she is is thinking, thinking, and thinking, and of course, crying while thinking.JMO

Good point that I hadn't thought of.

[Maggenzm]

I think the thing about blondes was just teasing. I remember the Jezebel interview where Andi said that Josh is just her partner through it all. She said that he's the last person that she wants to talk to at night and the first person that she wants to talk to when she wakes up. I think that sounds like love and trust to me.

I wouldn't say she didn't trust him, I would however say that she has trust issues about the relationship, "it was too good to be true". I can understand having something so great and wondering, if something is going to happen to break it off. So, she had fears, not because of something Josh did, but because it is the " best " she has ever had. These are Andi's fears based on her past relationships and she has to get over them before she can't have a healthy relationship with Josh or anyone else. So, until she removes the "future Mrs Murray", I don't it 's completely over.JMO

I do hope that its not completely over. And I think that the trust thing was an issue while the show was airing. I feel that after she spent two months with Josh, in hiding almost 24/7, those trust issues were gone. However, I think Andi may have become a little too focused on the business opportunities and less on having a family. But I think that having a husband and family is what she wanted in the first place. We all make mistakes and get carried away sometimes, but I hope that she can realize what she wanted in the first place and realize how much she loved Josh and how much he loved and I just hope that she realizes that nothing is worth the relationship that she had with Josh.

What business did Andi focused on? What is it that she did so different than the other bach? She is pursuing her passion which is sewing and supported Josh on Advocare, she has a website which everyone of the bach have after their season bcs of the many followers they acquire. She didn't move to LA to seek fame, but has remained in Atlanta to work out her relationship with Josh, when originally, she wanted to move out of ATL. So, I don't understand the lack of focus that people are talking about. Sooner or later, we will know what really caused the break up, but now, let's just enjoy our speculations.JMO

[nuts2uiam]

I loved Josh and could not warm up to Andi during the season. I was disappointed to see that they were the final couple because I felt he had it all. Once they moved along and were still a couple, I guessed that I had misjudged her and my initial feelings were incorrect. I tend to become disengaged in a couple once the season is over. I really view it as entertainment, and think that if they are going to succeed they will as Mr. & Mrs. Normal, who for all intents and purpose are not different than the rest of us. They were off my radar completely until the other night and I swear, I said to myself, "something is off with these two" and then the news. I wish each of them the happiness they deserve, either together or apart.

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