Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Episode 1 - Premier - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

IMO Kaitlynn is going to create a lot of drama with the ladies because she has the what you see is what you get attitude - crass jokes, jumping into water sans bikini bottoms, going into tent with Chris. My guess, is that the tent scene is from a group date and at some point during the night Kaitlynn sneaks into Chris' tent, hence Chris' voice saying "What are you doing here?" The ladies discover that Kaitlynn spent some time or maybe the night in the tent with Chris. That could account for comments from some of ladies, Kelsey - I'll give you a second chance; etc. and Chris' remorse. These are just guesses on my part from the previews. The tent scene reminds me of the Jason/Molly tent scene and how the ladies were upset with both of them.

It was a nice interview with Yawn/Cat. 
I have a weird thing with timing stuff on this show. I used to keep up with an audio/video editor and timing is a huge thing.

I've wondered about Nikki getting a boob job ever since the pictures from Pool After Dark. Of course she could've just discovered wonderbras all of a sudden, but that seems unlikely considering her age and the fact that she's never tried to hide her small chest before. And her boobs even stand out in a T-shirt (Andi's). I too hope it's not for JPG's sake. He did mention big boobs when asked about what he's looking for in a woman. That's why I was surprised he chose someone with hardly any curves. Oh well, maybe the show paid for them in order to make Nikki more attractive to her 25 suitors. Can't believe how many ways CH found to ask the same question from her.

Andi is still as annoying as ever. I don't know how she manages to sound so snooty and fake everytime she opens her mouth. Seems like it's only getting worse.

Chris wasn't quite as boring as I thought he'd be, but he also doesn't strike me as very intellectual or deep. If he really gets involved in some hanky panky in a tent while the other women are present then that's rather alarming. I also think he was understanding of the drunks because he's a bit of a drunk himself. Understandable I guess, since there's not a lot to do in a small town for fun. Not a life I find very attractive though, being stuck in the middle of nowhere with a man who relaxes by getting drunk.

newfiegirl wrote:IMO Kaitlynn is going to create a lot of drama with the ladies because she has the what you see is what you get attitude - crass jokes, jumping into water sans bikini bottoms, going into tent with Chris. My guess, is that the tent scene is from a group date and at some point during the night Kaitlynn sneaks into Chris' tent, hence Chris' voice saying "What are you doing here?" The ladies discover that Kaitlynn spent some time or maybe the night in the tent with Chris. That could account for comments from some of ladies, Kelsey - I'll give you a second chance; etc. and Chris' remorse. These are just guesses on my part from the previews. The tent scene reminds me of the Jason/Molly tent scene and how the ladies were upset with both of them.

It occured to me last night, that I'm seeing references made to second chances. TY I forgot about this one.

Kashathediva wrote:It was a nice interview with Yawn/Cat. 
I have a weird thing with timing stuff on this show. I used to keep up with an audio/video editor and timing is a huge thing.

I never paid attention to any of that until you started sharing it with us during Andi's season. It certainly can tell a story or at least give us some points to discuss.

My eldest dated a audio/video guy for reality tv for 6.5 yrs and then called it quits.  He was like family and we would talk tv all the time. He was a huge font of information. 
The breakup was sad, but a good thing all around. 

mindless wrote:I've wondered about Nikki getting a boob job ever since the pictures from Pool After Dark. Of course she could've just discovered wonderbras all of a sudden, but that seems unlikely considering her age and the fact that she's never tried to hide her small chest before. And her boobs even stand out in a T-shirt (Andi's). I too hope it's not for JPG's sake. He did mention big boobs when asked about what he's looking for in a woman. That's why I was surprised he chose someone with hardly any curves. Oh well, maybe the show paid for them in order to make Nikki more attractive to her 25 suitors. Can't believe how many ways CH found to ask the same question from her.

Andi is still as annoying as ever. I don't know how she manages to sound so snooty and fake everytime she opens her mouth. Seems like it's only getting worse.

Chris wasn't quite as boring as I thought he'd be, but he also doesn't strike me as very intellectual or deep. If he really gets involved in some hanky panky in a tent while the other women are present then that's rather alarming. I also think he was understanding of the drunks because he's a bit of a drunk himself. Understandable I guess, since there's not a lot to do in a small town for fun. Not a life I find very attractive though, being stuck in the middle of nowhere with a man who relaxes by getting drunk.

I could have written this myself. Agree with every bit of it.

Nikki has that upper fullness that is sort of rectangular at the top and telling of implants, so not a bra imo. I think it turned her world upside down when she couldn't win him over, so new boobs for JP would not surprise me. I assume CH was rephrasing the same question because the audition wasn't producing the results TPTB asked him to get. If she wanted the gig, she may have blown it.

My personal hope for her is she is not the next 'Ette. 
Let a real wannabe actress like Britt take the gig.

grace8136 wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:Kaitlyn is a mean girl. She is not funny.

I'm on the fence. When she flicked some sparkle off his face and said, "WHO IS SHE?!" I laughed out loud. That was funny. She also had a few other quick witty comments. She was cringeworthy at times, but may add some comic relief to an otherwise boring season. I suspect Chris's type was a bit crash like Kaitlyn and Tara, but maybe he wanted someone with a little more class for a wife and mother of his kids.  

I liked Kaitlyn's humor as well. I wasn't a fan of the "plow my field anytime" comment, which was classless, but I thought she was outgoing and spunky. That's my kind of humor and personality.

grace8136 wrote:If he actually slept with Kaitlynn Jade in the tent, I don't think he could come back from that with the girls. Did she stay in there all night?

My take on the tent thing was that the other girls on the date heard sexual noises coming from the tent- whomever was in there. At one point in the preview, you can sort of see it. That would certainly turn off anyone who was right outside and also on the date.

My take on the drunk girl was that it was very in line with the "second chance" edit. He's going to give her a pass because she was nervous and it was a one time thing, and then later, he will be the one asking for the same grace.

GuardianAngel wrote:

newfiegirl wrote:IMO Kaitlynn is going to create a lot of drama with the ladies because she has the what you see is what you get attitude - crass jokes, jumping into water sans bikini bottoms, going into tent with Chris. My guess, is that the tent scene is from a group date and at some point during the night Kaitlynn sneaks into Chris' tent, hence Chris' voice saying "What are you doing here?" The ladies discover that Kaitlynn spent some time or maybe the night in the tent with Chris. That could account for comments from some of ladies, Kelsey - I'll give you a second chance; etc. and Chris' remorse. These are just guesses on my part from the previews. The tent scene reminds me of the Jason/Molly tent scene and how the ladies were upset with both of them.

It occured to me last night, that I'm seeing references made to second chances. TY I forgot about this one.

Kashathediva wrote:It was a nice interview with Yawn/Cat. 
I have a weird thing with timing stuff on this show. I used to keep up with an audio/video editor and timing is a huge thing.

I never paid attention to any of that until you started sharing it with us during Andi's season. It certainly can tell a story or at least give us some points to discuss.

Sorry, I'm not following.. why was the timing of the SeanCat interview noteworthy? What did I miss?

It's(the Yawn/Cat interview) not noteworthy to anyone but me--it's a quirk of mine.
Editing time is often an indicator of what the storyline values or wants to stress.
Example: if John Doe's date will Silly Willy is given 7 minutes and then we are shown John Doe's date with Prima Donna and they are given 12 minutes, usually it is saying something. Not always. Use the example for FD time. Use the example for LCD or HTD. It might mean more. If SQT is given the same amount of time as an earlier 1:1 date--tptb could be emphasizing equal importance in each even though one date is 1:1 and the other was a group date with SQT.

I don't get how some are so blasé with his 'I'm human stuff. Seriously? He has sex with someone during a group date? Or am I reading that wrong.

grace8136 wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:I am trying to recall about the F1.. So some odd reason did we see Sean and Catherine? I know we saw Sc before the primier..some one can help me!

CH interviewed Sean and Cat. Same old questions. They are boring married folks now, stayed home in sweats on new year's eve and may "pop" out a baby in 2016 according to Sean. I believe Kasha said it was 4 minutes long. Also, Josh and Andi's was only 3 minutes, and CH sort of called out Andi for being a little fake about moving to Iowa.

grace.I was anwering someone asked if they ever NOT shown the F1 talking with the lead the first night.

Ps all is good!