Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Discussion #2

sophienette wrote:

joshfan wrote:

sophienette wrote:

you should be able to if you watch LIVE (I can and I am in ireland!)

im from aus do u use any extensions to allow u to watch it? Because i cant watch the videos it jst wont load. Hopefully the live one can though. What time can i start accessing it

to clarify... I cant see them AFTER, only the live ones!

Just go on the site a couple of minutes before the show and you should see the countdown

Thank you so much sophienette

joshfan wrote:

sophienette wrote:

joshfan wrote:

im from aus do u use any extensions to allow u to watch it? Because i cant watch the videos it jst wont load. Hopefully the live one can though. What time can i start accessing it

to clarify... I cant see them AFTER, only the live ones!

Just go on the site a couple of minutes before the show and you should see the countdown

Thank you so much sophienette

If you use Hola better internet ext you will be able to see all videos on site.

I always watch them, usually the next day.

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Just change the episode number.It has worked for me all season.

Thanks ladies!

When going through the different thread topics for this season I noticed the following...

There seems to be 2 methods that have been utilized in sleuthing for TBCanada Season 2:
1) emphasis on comparing 2 seasons with each other (comparing edit/elements of Brad vs. Tim's season and both season F2 girls) *slanted more towards Trish=F1*
2) emphasis placed on examining the season as presented (focus on the story, SCs, SM, told with less emphasis to past season) *slanted more towards April=F1*

I find these two approaches fascinating since the only other sleuthing I have done on this board was recently with TBAustralia Season 2. Also with 2 seasons and a non-US franchise (they do their own thing there) very little to any emphasis was placed on comparing the 1st to 2nd TBAU seasons , even if things were similar or dissimilar. All that was done was look at the story that was being presented by itself and using these clues to figure out who F1 was. By focusing on the story, SCs, SM, etc, many of us, including myself, were able to determine accurately who the F1 was.
-- I guess I am doing the same with TBCanada season 2... looking at the story, SC, SM, etc and analysing all this to determine F1 and by doing so have come up with April=F1 (barring her leaving).
-- When comparing seasons, and focusing on the edit similarities, there seems to be evidence that supports Trish=F1.

The fact that Brad and Tim, as well as the past and current F2 girls are so different from one another makes it difficult for me believe that the producers would make the exact same/very similar edit regardless of this fact (seems like a lot of work for them). Imo, the edit follows the story rather than the story following the edit. Comparing seasons rather than following the story seems to be putting more emphasis on editing people to fit a previous mould. What will be fascinating to find out, for me personally, because these two approaches can come up with different results, is seeing which approach holds more validity once we know the end.

AllAboutLove wrote:When going through the different thread topics for this season I noticed the following...

There seems to be 2 methods that have been utilized in sleuthing for TBCanada Season 2:
1) emphasis on comparing 2 seasons with each other (comparing edit/elements of Brad vs. Tim's season and both season F2 girls) *slanted more towards Trish=F1*
2) emphasis placed on examining the season as presented (focus on the story, SCs, SM, told with less emphasis to past season) *slanted more towards April=F1*

I find these two approaches fascinating since the only other sleuthing I have done on this board was recently with TBAustralia Season 2. Also with 2 seasons and a non-US franchise (they do their own thing there) very little to any emphasis was placed on comparing the 1st to 2nd TBAU seasons , even if things were similar or dissimilar. All that was done was look at the story that was being presented by itself and using these clues to figure out who F1 was. By focusing on the story, SCs, SM, etc, many of us, including myself, were able to determine accurately who the F1 was.
-- I guess I am doing the same with TBCanada season 2... looking at the story, SC, SM, etc and analysing all this to determine F1 and by doing so have come up with April=F1 (barring her leaving).
-- When comparing seasons, and focusing on the edit similarities, there seems to be evidence that supports Trish=F1.

The fact that Brad and Tim, as well as the past and current F2 girls are so different from one another makes it difficult for me believe that the producers would make the exact same/very similar edit regardless of this fact (seems like a lot of work for them). Imo, the edit follows the story rather than the story following the edit. Comparing seasons rather than following the story seems to be putting more emphasis on editing people to fit a previous mould. What will be fascinating to find out, for me personally, because these two approaches can come up with different results, is seeing which approach holds more validity once we know the end.

Exactly. That is the crux of the matter. Do you sleuth based on comparing previous seasons and trying to fit things based on that or do you follow the current story and examine how things shape up now? Several of us have said it previously but...the edit does not drive the story, the story drives the edit.

The US version of the show has 10 Bachelorette seasons and 18 Bachelor seasons. You can see what a mess it becomes if you try to compare all these seasons instead of focusing on what is being shown.

Sprite wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:When going through the different thread topics for this season I noticed the following...

There seems to be 2 methods that have been utilized in sleuthing for TBCanada Season 2:
1) emphasis on comparing 2 seasons with each other (comparing edit/elements of Brad vs. Tim's season and both season F2 girls) *slanted more towards Trish=F1*
2) emphasis placed on examining the season as presented (focus on the story, SCs, SM, told with less emphasis to past season) *slanted more towards April=F1*

I find these two approaches fascinating since the only other sleuthing I have done on this board was recently with TBAustralia Season 2. Also with 2 seasons and a non-US franchise (they do their own thing there) very little to any emphasis was placed on comparing the 1st to 2nd TBAU seasons , even if things were similar or dissimilar. All that was done was look at the story that was being presented by itself and using these clues to figure out who F1 was. By focusing on the story, SCs, SM, etc, many of us, including myself, were able to determine accurately who the F1 was.
-- I guess I am doing the same with TBCanada season 2... looking at the story, SC, SM, etc and analysing all this to determine F1 and by doing so have come up with April=F1 (barring her leaving).
-- When comparing seasons, and focusing on the edit similarities, there seems to be evidence that supports Trish=F1.

The fact that Brad and Tim, as well as the past and current F2 girls are so different from one another makes it difficult for me believe that the producers would make the exact same/very similar edit regardless of this fact (seems like a lot of work for them). Imo, the edit follows the story rather than the story following the edit. Comparing seasons rather than following the story seems to be putting more emphasis on editing people to fit a previous mould. What will be fascinating to find out, for me personally, because these two approaches can come up with different results, is seeing which approach holds more validity once we know the end.

Exactly. That is the crux of the matter. Do you sleuth based on comparing previous seasons and trying to fit things based on that or do you follow the current story and examine how things shape up now? Several of us have said it previously but...the edit does not drive the story, the story drives the edit.

The US version of the show has 10 Bachelorette seasons and 18 Bachelor seasons. You can see what a mess it becomes if you try to compare all these seasons instead of focusing on what is being shown.

ITA. sleuthing has been done based on what we have seen on TV, SCs, SM, BL and April is F1 based on these. If we see more unseen footage today that lends itself to Trisha being F1, I am sure many will have no problem accepting that ending.

AllAboutLove wrote:When going through the different thread topics for this season I noticed the following...

There seems to be 2 methods that have been utilized in sleuthing for TBCanada Season 2:
1) emphasis on comparing 2 seasons with each other (comparing edit/elements of Brad vs. Tim's season and both season F2 girls) *slanted more towards Trish=F1*
2) emphasis placed on examining the season as presented (focus on the story, SCs, SM, told with less emphasis to past season) *slanted more towards April=F1*

I find these two approaches fascinating since the only other sleuthing I have done on this board was recently with TBAustralia Season 2. Also with 2 seasons and a non-US franchise (they do their own thing there) very little to any emphasis was placed on comparing the 1st to 2nd TBAU seasons , even if things were similar or dissimilar. All that was done was look at the story that was being presented by itself and using these clues to figure out who F1 was. By focusing on the story, SCs, SM, etc, many of us, including myself, were able to determine accurately who the F1 was.
-- I guess I am doing the same with TBCanada season 2... looking at the story, SC, SM, etc and analysing all this to determine F1 and by doing so have come up with April=F1 (barring her leaving).
-- When comparing seasons, and focusing on the edit similarities, there seems to be evidence that supports Trish=F1.

The fact that Brad and Tim, as well as the past and current F2 girls are so different from one another makes it difficult for me believe that the producers would make the exact same/very similar edit regardless of this fact (seems like a lot of work for them). Imo, the edit follows the story rather than the story following the edit. Comparing seasons rather than following the story seems to be putting more emphasis on editing people to fit a previous mould. What will be fascinating to find out, for me personally, because these two approaches can come up with different results, is seeing which approach holds more validity once we know the end.

well said allaboutlove that is what makes it fun. As one person that does look at the edit I have to comment to the fact that about story vs edit. Yes each season is different leads, different people and personalities but production/editing team can make anyone look good or anyone look bad. The edit can make a scene look very romantic or make it look very awkward all with voiceovers, music and certain scenes edited to tell the story they want to tell. As an example April/Tim's frolicking ocean scene in the preview 1st one the voiceover on that scene is April saying "I want to go home" and then in the next preview longer one that ocean frolicking scene the voiceover is "guy that I can see myself falling in love with" which was said by Nat.....so because that scene was edited differently twice with different voiceovers what was the edit trying to tell us in the story? Someone clipped those voiceovers and placed them during that scene in the preview WHY? We know April didn't say "I want to go home" then plus why put Nat's VO on that scene of "Guy I can see myself falling in love." it was Nat but it was April in that scene so edit was either misleading us or trying to tell us their story...so there is a story and the edit is either misleading or telling the story.

Comparing season's, IMO, makes no sense whatsoever to me.  I don't believe for one second that the editors sit down and say "so, team, lets go back and count all the SC's and VO's, for the F1 and the F2 in Brad's season... and duplicate it."  neither do they say to Tim.... "so I know we're only a week into filming, but could you please tell us who your final girl is, and your second choice, so we know when to give them dates - especially the 2/1".....

I agree with points above, they have a different story to tell this season, and they're presenting it in a different manner.

Sprite wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:When going through the different thread topics for this season I noticed the following...

There seems to be 2 methods that have been utilized in sleuthing for TBCanada Season 2:
1) emphasis on comparing 2 seasons with each other (comparing edit/elements of Brad vs. Tim's season and both season F2 girls) *slanted more towards Trish=F1*
2) emphasis placed on examining the season as presented (focus on the story, SCs, SM, told with less emphasis to past season) *slanted more towards April=F1*

I find these two approaches fascinating since the only other sleuthing I have done on this board was recently with TBAustralia Season 2. Also with 2 seasons and a non-US franchise (they do their own thing there) very little to any emphasis was placed on comparing the 1st to 2nd TBAU seasons , even if things were similar or dissimilar. All that was done was look at the story that was being presented by itself and using these clues to figure out who F1 was. By focusing on the story, SCs, SM, etc, many of us, including myself, were able to determine accurately who the F1 was.
-- I guess I am doing the same with TBCanada season 2... looking at the story, SC, SM, etc and analysing all this to determine F1 and by doing so have come up with April=F1 (barring her leaving).
-- When comparing seasons, and focusing on the edit similarities, there seems to be evidence that supports Trish=F1.

The fact that Brad and Tim, as well as the past and current F2 girls are so different from one another makes it difficult for me believe that the producers would make the exact same/very similar edit regardless of this fact (seems like a lot of work for them). Imo, the edit follows the story rather than the story following the edit. Comparing seasons rather than following the story seems to be putting more emphasis on editing people to fit a previous mould. What will be fascinating to find out, for me personally, because these two approaches can come up with different results, is seeing which approach holds more validity once we know the end.

Exactly. That is the crux of the matter. Do you sleuth based on comparing previous seasons and trying to fit things based on that or do you follow the current story and examine how things shape up now? Several of us have said it previously but...the edit does not drive the story, the story drives the edit.

The US version of the show has 10 Bachelorette seasons and 18 Bachelor seasons. You can see what a mess it becomes if you try to compare all these seasons instead of focusing on what is being shown.

The story does drive the edit but the story just might want to be hidden hence the edit can mislead. As a person that has been involved with the the US version and all the seasons there are threads just for the edit and just for body language etc. All other bachelor seasons/ette seasons have stats and comparisons done all day long. BachCan only has one other season so why can't we think out of the box ..... if your sleuthing style works for you and it is how you see it great but if what I see happens great for me also. Different strokes for different folks.

Ha nv. I quite agree. In the general storyline I do find similarities with Brads season. Both he and Tim needed to chase their woman. Both Bianka and April had to overcome their reticence and fears, though April has a bigger problem at the end . But each had challenge to overcome that created some dilemma to be resolved. I don't see any of this with Trisha.

What I find most problematic about comparing TBCanada seasons is that Brad and Bianca become the greatest supporting evidence for Tim and his F1 when, imho, Tim and his F1 must be their own greatest supporting evidence.

For me, that evidence comes down to whom the lead is chasing (emotionally/physically/etc). It is a constant that can be most relied upon regardless of season (1st vs. 2nd/18th), franchise (US vs Non-US), story (drama vs. love) or edit (hidden vs. obvious). Based on what has been shown thus far (TV, SC, Blogs) Tim as the lead has chased April the most.