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Post by Aunties_Love Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:34 pm

richmondrose wrote:"Tim's IG about it being his last sunset, does imply a romantic connotation to it, as I don't think a guy would comment on a sunset and glass of wine if he wasn't with his girl"

You may be right but others may interpret it differently. When Tim initially posted that picture and I saw it, that too was my immediate reaction. But then I questioned why there was only one glass and not two and when I looked at the rest of his IG account I noticed a lot more pictures of sunsets, pre and post filming dates. The conclusion I came to was that Tim must like sunsets, and although it may look to be romantic, I couldn't say with certainty that he was with his F1. If Tim had added in his comment that he was with his chosen, that may have been a different story (although still not proof), It's purely innuendo and not fact and open to interpretation of the individual observer.  Again, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, just explaining how sleuthing isn't as simple as it used to be in the good ol' days.

I agree rr, just because a guy is enjoying a sunset(and particularly with Tim's IG history) doesn't mean that he has to be enjoying the sunset with a girl. Heck, I know a few guy friends that love to go out camping and watching sunsets and to boot, they are doing it alone so I think it is entirely possible.



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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:37 pm

^^ Tim definitely loves sunsets and he loves being near or on the water. Most of his IG posts and past experiences are all about that... nature (his family's cabin), sunsets, being on or near the water, and just taking it all in.
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:38 pm

4health wrote:Hey what do you all think of this possible timeline?  http://www.aftertherose.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=6326#Post6326

Considering both girls have a FD and LCD it seems, the FD days are missing!

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Post by 4health Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:52 pm

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4health wrote:Hey what do you all think of this possible timeline?  http://www.aftertherose.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=6326#Post6326

Considering both girls have a FD and LCD it seems, the FD days are missing!

I made a few adjustments to the timeline in other thread....as for the LCD we will see....I am still on the fence....I think he might have special time with each of them hence the clothing but an official date to add to the timeline is the question.....I would guess by really reviewing the possible timeline the FRC was any where between May 19th and May 21st JMO.

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Post by Aunties_Love Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:22 pm

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northernviewer wrote:I was just going back through some old posts, ones around WTA filming time and I came across some interesting info I think.  It says that on May 31st her friend posted a picture of Trish and a group of her friends out on the town, so I'd imagine she's been home for at least a day or so before going out, which would mean her leaving Moorea maybe the 27th or 28th latest... and Tim posted on his IG a sunset and glass of wine with the comment of "one last sunset - all done filming."  there was also another one that he posted on the 31st but I can't view it now.  Of course Tim could have posted it long after it actually happened, but if he posted 2 days in a row, you'd think he'd have posted them both if they had already happened.  Talk of WTA taping is around page 42 of the older locked thread for sleuthing and speculation

eta.. ok AAL, you're the expert on Moorea coastline... is that where this is taken from?  
eta... below sc is June 1st.

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Yes! This photo is at the Pearl Resort & Spa in Moorea! 100% certain.

Now, just because the photo was taken in Moorea and captioned as if in real time, doesn't mean he posted it on IG while in Moorea. Who knows how cell service was over water in a bungalow (where this photo was taken) but it is certainly possible that he posted it then (I believe Moorea is 5 hours behind Toronto time). Posting one glass and his captions, "one last sunset/somewhere here"... not really enough to indicate he is with anyone though? Hmmm... Either his F1 wasn't there at the time or no F1 (he could very well have spend those final days filming PI's, We have the blooper SC that shows he was in the overwater bungalow with the purple greenscreen, etc, but the location of him in his shorts is at the Pearl). Pure speculation of course why he only has one glass, but that coupled with his first response when he got back "l learned a lot about myself" on his BT June 3rd interview... If anything, the most rewarding thing of his life could just be growing as a person and not finding the one. The final girl dress promo post indicates otherwise. 

Anyway, just to confirm. Both IG pics posted by Tim were taken in Moorea at the Pearl Resort and Spa (same location for April upset, Trish blooper, MTP, where Tim has his ring, and blooper pic of Tim). Notice the goblet shaped glass? It is the exact same goblet in the IG photo Tim posted the day before 05-29-2014 (see below pic).

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Btw: Tim's buddy's fiance liked/favorited this photo. As posted above, no idea if this girl is the same one that he introduced April to (best bud fiance, they got married a month ago this summer, so after filming.. see my previous post above).
Sorry, but I don't know how you can say that with absolute certainty?  Have you witnessed a sunset on the coastal area of British Columbia?  We do know that the head office for GoodHuman Productions is in Vancouver.  We do know that Vancouver played a very prominant role in this season.  We also know that he more than likely he did a lot of post show ITM's at the Vancouver outlet.  There are several ITM's taken for both Tim and the women with a backdrop of brick wall tiles on one side, a purple sheet in the middle and shutters on the right side.  Now I know that it was thought that the itm's were done in Moorea, but I beg to differ.  In Moorea, no where do we see the brick/shutter combination.  I believe that a lot of ITM's were done in Vancouver at a locale that was available for Bach Can to use to do the itm's.

Just to show that the sunset pic could so easily come from Vancouver:


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Or even from Tofino which is a 15 min float plane flight from Vancouver:

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My only point in that is to prove that the landscapes can be interchangable.  I believe that they could very well of been in Vancouver/Tofino and even in a yacht on the ocean with the glass on a railing. I just feel that to me, it's not that conclusive yet.


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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:25 pm

^^ Please use multiquote or snip for brevity....

All evidence is based on the guardrail/fence of the bungalow and not the sunset. On the entire Moorea Island, only the Pearl has a fence exactly like that and it matches exactly with the fence that Trish has, exactly with the fence that Tim sits in front of when looking at the ring. I posted the links in my post to all the SCs and the matching pics so one can view those and analyse. It is not about analysing a sunset but the actual fence/guardrail.

Here is my post... click on links for SCs and matches.

AllAboutLove wrote:Same exact place I already identified Trish at, including the exact bungalow she was in. She is in a beach bungalow by the cement wall seen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. April is in the garden bungalow farther back seen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Tim is in the overwater bungalow out on the water where he has the ring (he would face the Pearl not the horizon so the IG pic he has is just him standing somewhere looking at the sunset by the Premium Overwater Bungalows, not the Standard Overwater Bungalow Tim is seen on the 'balcony' with the ring SC [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]). 

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Post by Aunties_Love Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:34 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
 Interesting how his first statement regarding being TB was that he learned a lot about himself...
Hmm, so he could of been there looking for one thing and realized through it he wanted another.  Maybe that means along the lines that he was into April in the beginning but realized that the surprises that he found in Trisha as in their first date together...maybe that's what he wanted in the end??
Definitely a possibility! Especially considering he had already introduced April to his best bud and best bud fiance so early on in filming. And then much later, and we are about to see with April upset around MTP time, Tim says "never seen April this upset before".

This definitely follows with what Tim stated in his blog and also in multiple interviews when he described the experience as an 'emotional rollercoaster' and that can moreso be applied to April than to anyone else.

As stated before by many, Tim could very well have thought, things have been so easy with Trish, with April he has to work a lot! Reassure her a lot.

Either he wanted to keep working, working, working, or he realised that that was not something he wanted to have to continue to do forever with someone (carry their baggage/past hurts too, so to speak).

It has definitely been shown that with Tim and Trish things come easy to both of them, they are relaxed around one another and Tim has said he can be himself with Trish, with April, it takes a lot more effort on Tim's part.

So, based on what happens, and whom he chooses (and F1 accepts) then he really is making a choice for two different people and lives that he will lead. He has consistently stated he wants someone who is just happy with who the are and where they are going. I can say that Trish seems more that than April, especially considering how April has a lot of past hurt from her betrayal and losing her father to partying, etc. How much that has to do with the show and reality? I don't know. But Trish has been pretty even-keel in maintaining her emotional state throughout the show. April seems up and down.
To me, IMO, he chose Trish because of what he stated he wanted, and 2 because of their connection...albeit hidden and 3 because of some post show clues that I have caught...the IG's about wanting someone that makes you happy(paraphrasing here) and to me, in general, their connection seems to be more real and not something that absolutely wears you down. See, yea, I agree he was attracted to April in the beginning, but I think that the group date in epi 2 woke him up... He said in his blog of being really surprised. To me, that was with Trish as they seemed to really chat it up and the others on the date knew it too. Then the 2/1....I am sure there was so much more to that date than we'll ever know. The date in Italy, he was obviously nervous giving her the jewlery. Remember, it was stated by Trish in the ITM that his lip was quivering, then during the WTA, Tim himself said how the women knew that he was nervous as his lip quivers. It's just a gutt feeling that it will be Trisha in the end.


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Post by Kashathediva Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:46 pm

Those sunset photos are beautiful. PINKHEART



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Post by northernviewer Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:47 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
4Health wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:Anyway, just to confirm. Both IG pics posted by Tim were taken in Moorea at the Pearl Resort and Spa (same location for April upset, Trish blooper, MTP, where Tim has his ring, and blooper pic of Tim). Notice the goblet shaped glass? It is the exact same goblet in the IG photo Tim posted the day before 05-29-2014 (see below pic).
the bottom photo looks like the glass in on the same kind of fence on a bungalow in Trisha's blooper, the same as the one's Tim is looing at the ring....the bungalow over the ocean.....
Yep, just as I stated and showed the SCs in the SC thread. It is why I said that the location is the Pearl.

Same exact place I already identified Trish at, including the exact bungalow she was in. She is in a beach bungalow by the cement wall seen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. April is in the garden bungalow farther back seen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Tim is in the overwater bungalow out on the water where he has the ring (he would face the Pearl not the horizon so the IG pic he has is just him standing somewhere looking at the sunset by the Premium Overwater Bungalows, not the Standard Overwater Bungalow Tim is seen on the 'balcony' with the ring SC [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]).

You can go to the 'Confirmed Sleuthing' thread and see a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of where they are each at.

Trish would not have a view of the water or horizon like Tim. Looking out from the beach bungalow she would just see more water bungalows. Tim's water bungalow is on the opposite side completely. Again, map is detailed in confirmed thread.

Just wanted to point out that we don't know for sure that Trish stayed in one of those bungalows... she could have just walked down to the beach for all we know. We saw April go into a room so we know for sure what room she was in, especially since her dress from a previous date was on the bed.. but all we see with Trish is her on the beach with a bungalow in the background... just sayin'....


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Post by 4health Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:48 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
Hmm, so he could of been there looking for one thing and realized through it he wanted another.  Maybe that means along the lines that he was into April in the beginning but realized that the surprises that he found in Trisha as in their first date together...maybe that's what he wanted in the end??
Definitely a possibility! Especially considering he had already introduced April to his best bud and best bud fiance so early on in filming. And then much later, and we are about to see with April upset around MTP time, Tim says "never seen April this upset before".

This definitely follows with what Tim stated in his blog and also in multiple interviews when he described the experience as an 'emotional rollercoaster' and that can moreso be applied to April than to anyone else.

As stated before by many, Tim could very well have thought, things have been so easy with Trish, with April he has to work a lot! Reassure her a lot.

Either he wanted to keep working, working, working, or he realised that that was not something he wanted to have to continue to do forever with someone (carry their baggage/past hurts too, so to speak).

It has definitely been shown that with Tim and Trish things come easy to both of them, they are relaxed around one another and Tim has said he can be himself with Trish, with April, it takes a lot more effort on Tim's part.

So, based on what happens, and whom he chooses (and F1 accepts) then he really is making a choice for two different people and lives that he will lead. He has consistently stated he wants someone who is just happy with who the are and where they are going. I can say that Trish seems more that than April, especially considering how April has a lot of past hurt from her betrayal and losing her father to partying, etc. How much that has to do with the show and reality? I don't know. But Trish has been pretty even-keel in maintaining her emotional state throughout the show. April seems up and down.
To me, IMO, he chose Trish because of what he stated he wanted, and 2 because of their connection...albeit hidden and 3 because of some post show clues that I have caught...the IG's about wanting someone that makes you happy(paraphrasing here) and to me, in general, their connection seems to be more real and not something that absolutely wears you down.  See, yea, I agree he was attracted to April in the beginning, but I think that the group date in epi 2 woke him up...  He said in his blog of being really surprised.  To me, that was with Trish as they seemed to really chat it up and the others on the date knew it too. Then the 2/1....I am sure there was so much more to that date than we'll ever know.  The date in Italy, he was obviously nervous giving her the jewlery.  Remember, it was stated by Trish in the ITM that his lip was quivering, then during the WTA, Tim himself said how the women knew that he was nervous as his lip quivers.  It's just a gutt feeling that it will be Trisha in the end.

That is what all of us can go on is our gut. LOL Hey just like Tim has said "he is going with his gut." I just hope he went with my gut feeling. Praying

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Post by 4health Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:49 pm

northernviewer wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:
4Health wrote:
the bottom photo looks like the glass in on the same kind of fence on a bungalow in Trisha's blooper, the same as the one's Tim is looing at the ring....the bungalow over the ocean.....
Yep, just as I stated and showed the SCs in the SC thread. It is why I said that the location is the Pearl.

Same exact place I already identified Trish at, including the exact bungalow she was in. She is in a beach bungalow by the cement wall seen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. April is in the garden bungalow farther back seen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Tim is in the overwater bungalow out on the water where he has the ring (he would face the Pearl not the horizon so the IG pic he has is just him standing somewhere looking at the sunset by the Premium Overwater Bungalows, not the Standard Overwater Bungalow Tim is seen on the 'balcony' with the ring SC [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]).

You can go to the 'Confirmed Sleuthing' thread and see a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] of where they are each at.

Trish would not have a view of the water or horizon like Tim. Looking out from the beach bungalow she would just see more water bungalows. Tim's water bungalow is on the opposite side completely. Again, map is detailed in confirmed thread.

Just wanted to point out that we don't know for sure that Trish stayed in one of those bungalows... she could have just walked down to the beach for all we know.  We saw April go into a room so we know for sure what room she was in, especially since her dress from a previous date was on the bed.. but all we see with Trish is her on the beach with a bungalow in the background... just sayin'....

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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:51 pm

IA northernviewer. I meant to state by a beach bungalow. What makes me hesitant to say that she just walked over there, is if you go to the link regarding that specific SC and the matching bungalow, it would be quite awkward to walk toward a cement wall (one cannot go past it) to the farthest bungalow. There is no 'beach' for Pearl on that side where Trish is seen because the cement wall blocks off access into the Pearl and out of the Pearl. So either she walked down there to the cement wall (last bungalow) where there is no view of the ocean just of other overwater bungalows and a cement wall or she perhaps was staying there. It is the worst bungalow to be in taking into consideration views or beach access. It is the best bungalow to be in when thinking about privacy. Again, SCs and matches help with this. jmo

ETA: Here is an aerial view to give an idea of what I mean. Trish SC shows she was by the last bungalow and by the cement wall. No view of the ocean but other overwater bungalows. 
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