Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion #2

Laudergirl wrote:  miahawk wrote:
1) There are too many big egos in the Dorfman-Murray gang.
2) SM is stupid and should never be confused with real communication.
3) I've witnessed more maturity at the Neonatal ICU than with these people.


I definitely agree, especially with the bolded!! I feel that well known people or celebrities use SM  simply for show. I don't even communicate via FB or twitter with those I am closest to. I text, call, face time etc., because it's far more personal.  So again, I just don't agree with the presumption that someone (like Josh) is ignoring his family because he no longer tweets with them or posts about them. Sure, he did prior to the show and immediately after, but things are very different now and there is so much scrutiny with every little thing they post. I would want to keep my communications with my immediate family private too.

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Wow - you raise two interesting points. The Andi/Josh Twitter-IG thread is filled with SM messages that the couple send out to each other on a regular basis.  Many times they are tweeting to each other while they are together.  Given your rationale,  this is simply for show.  

Your second point is that Josh wants to keep communications with his with his immediate family private and this is why he no longer mentions them on SM. Yet, he communicates with Andi this way on IG, Twitter, etc.

If I'm understanding this correctly, Josh wants to publicize his relationship with Andi & it is only for show.

^ Actually, that's called being playful and teasing your significant other - something that many couples tend to do, especially younger couples, myself included, but maybe I should remember not everyone is my age or has been in legitimate relationships so our opinions differ. Andi and Josh are allowed to tweet each other and it doesn't mean they're putting on a show. It certainly doesn't for Sean and Catherine. I personally think Laudergirl was alluding to the fact that so many celebrities or in my opinion, anyone in general too, go overboard on SM and it takes away from real life interaction. Who's to say Josh isn't speaking to his family in private? That doesn't mean he can't interact with people, like his fiance, on social media still.

My relationship must be for show then because I tweeted my boyfriend and told him to kick rocks for making me watch a Flyers game with him. I'll let him know.

Yeah, it has to be the generation gap.

IMO it's gotten so out of hand it's ridiculous. I was at lunch with a friend over the weekend. There was a couple sitting at the table next to us, guy/girl, both on their phones. The only time they looked up was when the waitress came over. During their meal, they continued to swipe tap and read.

Due to the nature of my work, all my emails are forwarded to my phone and desktop email, texts only go to my phone. I rarely look at my phone because everything I need is in front of me on the desktop. After work I check my phone regularly for business. Should there be a text that I don't see for a couple of hours, all hell breaks loose. Where have you been, why don't you ever answer.  

Two weeks ago I went for dinner with another friend. She did the same thing. Don't bother suggesting we go anywhere if you're going to look at your phone all night because you can't stand the though of missing a text or f/book message. I'd rather sit at home than look around a restaurant looking interested. No wonder people skills are going out the door!

To text someone back and forth that's in the same room, IMO is just silly. Who are we trying to impress.

Well just speaking for myself, yeah I FB post to my guy and tweet him sometimes when we are together, it's cute and fun to me. But sigh, everyone is different.

FLChica wrote:
Wow - you raise two interesting points. The Andi/Josh Twitter-IG thread is filled with SM messages that the couple send out to each other on a regular basis.  Many times they are tweeting to each other while they are together.  Given your rationale,  this is simply for show.  

Your second point is that Josh wants to keep communications with his with his immediate family private and this is why he no longer mentions them on SM. Yet, he communicates with Andi this way on IG, Twitter, etc.

If I'm understanding this correctly, Josh wants to publicize his relationship with Andi & it is only for show.

What I was saying is that if I were them, I would keep my personal interactions with my family private, and keep them out of the hoopla that is reality TV gossip.

And yes, I do feel SM is for show. Totally for show. And as far as Andi and Josh posting about each other on SM, in my opinion, they do it because they know they have a huge following of fans that watched them fall in love and want to continue being part of their love story. I know that's why I follow them, and I look forward to seeing their banter and their posts about each other. So yes, they do it for show in that sense, and I think that comes with the territory of being a bachelorette couple.  But I very much believe their love is for real, and that they truly want a future together.

I tend to think they do a lot of things for show but then I'm not convinced they have what it takes. I don't think it matters what they tweet or who they cut off because that in itself wouldn't cause a rift in their family. What really matters in any relationship is that you find a way to make time for each other without distancing your family (beyond a certain point). It looks like they're doing that with Andi's family which doesn't surprise me a bit since she's their "princess". Will Josh resent this at some point?  

OK, so I did understand your post Laudergirl!  Thank you for confirming. Even though I don't follow reality tv show participants, I'm active on SM for business and personal purposes.  How I use SM isn't the topic of this thread though so I'll keep my comments to Andi & Josh's use of SM.   

I completely agree that Andi & Josh use SM to promote their relationship to those that may be interested.  It's a very effective & free way to promote your "business".  As you said, they are a Bachelorette couple - this is now their "business".  They promote businesses they receive goods / services from as well.  SM is also an important part of marketing their MLM products.  People that would never have considered using these products may try them to support their couple.

We've heard from many insiders that Bach participants are more marketable as a couple and that many stay together to reap the benefits.  Makes sense that Andi & Josh would market their relationship.

No one knows what or how this family interpersonal dynamics where,  just because everyone smiles and people who are on the outside looking in saying they are wonderful doesn't mean there wasn't friction before Josh became the most popular Murray child.   And we as fans will never know..

But you know I am surprised by all this discussion because I know I read during the season how  Josh was second to Aaron in the family, basically within the family he wasn't anything but Aaron's lackey and babysitter. So if that how some felt about Josh' s dynamic within his family why put the blame at Josh' s doorstep. Maybe he finally got tired up being a babysitter and coming in second, I dunno. Not my opinion but just remembering what was posted throughout Andi' s season regarding how some viewed Josh place within the family.

FLChica wrote:OK, so I did understand your post Laudergirl!  Thank you for confirming. Even though I don't follow reality tv show participants, I'm active on SM for business and personal purposes.  How I use SM isn't the topic of this thread though so I'll keep my comments to Andi & Josh's use of SM.   

I completely agree that Andi & Josh use SM to promote their relationship to those that may be interested.  It's a very effective & free way to promote your "business".  As you said, they are a Bachelorette couple - this is now their "business".  They promote businesses they receive goods / services from as well.  SM is also an important part of marketing their MLM products.  People that would never have considered using these products may try them to support their couple.

We've heard from many insiders that Bach participants are more marketable as a couple and that many stay together to reap the benefits.  Makes sense that Andi & Josh would market their relationship.

I don't see anything wrong with this though. Why not take advantage of your large following. For those that aren't interested in what they are promoting, they can just ignore or unfollow. Personally, I'm not a fan of MLM at all, but if it works for them, go for it!

And in my opinion, Andi and Josh are a couple truly in love, and a team that way. Partners for life. Not a business. But I'm a fan, so for those that don't like them or are skeptical of the idea that you can find true love on reality tv, they will see it differently. That's fine. To each his own.

Not believing that this couple is for real doesn't mean you don't believe you can find love on reality tv. It may just mean you don't like this couple.

stuckinsc wrote:Not believing that this couple is for real doesn't mean you don't believe you can find love on reality tv.  It may just mean you don't like this couple.  

That's basically what I said in my post!! "I'm a fan, so for those that don't like them or are skeptical of the idea that you can find true love on reality tv, they will see it differently. That's fine. To each his own."