Re: The Bachelor Australia - Season 2 - Blake Garvey - ATFR - *Spoilers* - Media & Social Media Discussion #2

by emusha Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:20 pm

same here hope it gets on youtube soon! in the meantime -- LOLOL at the extent of this mess!!

by Guest Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:30 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:Timeline (using evidence from Blake, Louise, Sam, and Lisa words/actions, if missing anything or errors let me know)

Week before finale: Blake breaks off the engagement, Sam doesn't really know why

Before finale: Letter given to Louise from Blake via her dad ( Oct 1: Louise favourites tweet about getting someone waay better than Blake, before or after letter?)

Oct 2: The finale episode airs (media blackout ensues)

After finale (Oct 2,3?): Blake calls Lisa to ask if she still has feelings/see a future.
- Lisa says no way, she won't be 2nd choice and won't have anyone break up her friendship with Sam.
- Lisa tells Sam what Blake did.

Oct 3 (noon): Breakup is announced, Blake's official statement via Network 10
- Bette's post support of Sam (Jess, Zoe, Laurina, Lisa, etc..)
- Out of F5, only Louise does not post any support or message to Sam (she is active posting on her SM though)

Oct 3 (evening): Lisa posts on IG "Sister before Misters" and that she went on journey to find Sam (evening of Oct 3).

Oct 6: The Project Interview with Blake and Sam.
- Sam says it is all rubbish (she has been told by Lisa what Blake did).
- Sam's not sure if he is with anyone else. (She knows from Lisa he contacted her so it is possible) but hopes not.
Sam calls Blake the jack word.
- Blake says he proposed because he loves Sam (present tense usage). She is just a "beautiful person"
- Blake says his heart is broken, because 'all the women' said goodbye (Lisa has told him no post-finale).
- Blake says it is not about anyone else (he still has Louise potentially wanting to be with him?).
- He says all too raw, he needs healing, time, and no headspace for anyone else
- Other radio interviews (confirms no one else at all, "definitely not". Confirms he did speak to Lisa after the show to talk about 'pregnant rumours')

Oct 9: Blake posts on Twitter "who is confirming these allegations I am with Louise?"
- Zoe asks if he is confirming "no" to rumours with Louise
- Rumours about Louise been rampant since breakup news
- Lisa and Sam have unfollowed her IG prior to his tweet (Louise was only F5 not posting to support Sam. Louise hasn't responded to Sam's text about rumours, she confirms this in her Project Interview with Blake.)
- Max Markson, PR follows Blake on Twitter

Oct 13: Louise and Blake post on SM
- Louise posts "Be happy and smile" on her IG/Twitter
- Blake posts on Twitter about cabbage patch dolls, doesn't own a strip club.
- They spent a week? in Thailand (so either during or after posts)
- Max Markson retweets Blake's tweet about cabbage patch dolls/no strip club

Oct 14: Blake deletes Tweet about "Louise" rumour

Oct 17: Announcements that Blake and Louise together confirmed
- Woman's Day Magazine article announcement
- Blake, Louise, and Max retweet Woman's Day "Out of Hiding" promotion
- Network Ten TBAU announcement on SM, etc
- The Project Interview announced Blake and Louise (filmed in Thailand)

Oct 20: Woman's Day paid Magazine and The Project Interview
- WD mag spread (Blake's love letter before finale, Louise watched finale knowing he wanted only her, Sam was a drunk partier, and just a friend. Louise confirms she never responded to Sam contacting her prior to her trip to meet Blake about rumours. Too delicate a situation)
- TP Interview (Blake loved Louise in Cape Town, let Louise go to protect her. Sam told him not to mention Louise. Sam knew he "had feelings" but didn't know, since Blake didn't know till post-show whether he and Louise together. Louise says she can't question just support Blake. It is a true love story).

Oct 21: Sam radio, Lisa & Sam The Project Interview
- Sam on radio interview (Says she didn't know but suspected Louise since Louise never texted her back about rumours post-finale. Feels bad for Louise and hopes Blake is really genuine with her but for Louise to make sure Blake is telling her the truth. Says so many holes in Blake's story it is ridiculous to her and Lisa).
- Sam and Lisa watch Blake and Louise's interview...
- Sam says absolute rubbish coming from Blake about her not wanting him to speak about Louise as the reason he dumped her (Louise had yet to even respond to Blake about letter pre-finale). Sam had asked Blake and he denied it. Asked Louise and no response.
- Lisa says Blake called her after the finale aired. Wanted to know if she had feelings and saw a future. Lisa says no, will never be 2nd choice. Told Sam what Blake did and that for her she went on the journey to meet Sam.
- Lisa says she contacted Louise to tell her what Blake had done, coming to her after finale to see if she would get back with him.
- They both feel bad for Louise, says Louise wants to believe what Blake says. Hopes she will be okay.

Wow! AllAboutLove, I really enjoy reading your analysis and insights. I think the production team has way back last year after season one, that they would like to replicate the Mesnick drama. All this while, everything was scripted, even to the extend when Carrie interviewed Blake and Louise in Thailand. I think they were asked to go to Thailand and then got Carrie to go there to interview. Blake echoing "its like Mesnick case" was ridiculous. He is just like a puppet following what others asked him to do. I think they strike a deal with Louise too (IMO) to follow through this plan of theirs to salvage the Brand name. They do not care about Blake actually, what they care is the Brand's name. I am really gobsmacked at the way Blake handled this mess... he needs his mum, friends and the TV personality to bail him out. He has been saying all the wrong things from day one. I do not care what Blake and Louise will do with their life. But I do care what they tried to do with Sam's life. Their tried to defame her just to save the brand's name. I think the girls who plan to enter the bachelor competition next year should be wary of what they are getting themselves into.

I also believe the statement..I can't qestion Blake but support him... does not seem to come from Louise. I thought it is more of a script she had to read aloud. What kind of educated woman she is... from a renowned higher learning institution in the world, to be saying such a statement. Its not the era of the darkness anymore where woman are supposed to be totally submissive without any IQ or EQ. I am really flabbergasted at how Louise, her parents and brothers handle this scandal. Louise's mum should think that in Sam's place could have been Louise as the victim. Oh anywhere, where is there morality anymore in this materialistic world. I hope some TV station would try to come up with more realistic TV show that breeds more love and care rather than selfishness and narcissism.

I really respect Lisa for holding her head high and said she would never want to be second to anyone. I think she is right that blake should just have chosen her as F1 instead to following the TV producers about their drama to dumb Sam and get back to Lisa. They did not know that Lisa would never agree to be second. Well she deserves better. She is a beautiful woman...I should say getting more and more beautiful as her inner beauty shines more now.

My question is "Can't the girls sue the producers for leading them on in this show?" or they are supposed to fall victim to their ill intention without regards to human's values. I know I am being naive...but I thought Australia is a country that really value human's rights. Maybe Australian can shade some lights on it.

by sks Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:23 pm

http://www.2dayfm.com.au/scoopla/tv/blog/2014/10/did-the-bachelors-sam-frost-lie-all-along/

Jules :“that was the rumour, I had a mate who worked on The Bachelor, he said that’s what the crew was saying, that Louise was the one he was in love with”.

GuardianAngel:"There are so many twists speculation and rumours we really don't know the truth. Cutting him some slack, I'm sure he was told what to say what not to say and when to say it. So after all this, I still blame production, who IMO are responsible for this whole mess." 100% agree clapping!

by emusha Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:44 pm

p.s. by "After finale" I think Lisa might have meant after the FRC in South africa vs. the airing of the FRC do we know either way?

by **GuardianAngel** Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:45 pm

sks wrote:http://www.2dayfm.com.au/scoopla/tv/blog/2014/10/did-the-bachelors-sam-frost-lie-all-along/

Jules :“that was the rumour, I had a mate who worked on The Bachelor, he said that’s what the crew was saying, that Louise was the one he was in love with”.

I've been watching the clock waiting for the Aussie's to wake up because I just knew there would be more twists! laugh out loud

Sam isn't sure if she's still in love with Blake? When was this recorded?

by mercieme Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:53 pm

I am happy that the contestants that were on the season with Blake & know all parties involved continue to speak out. Of course we are all free to continue to draw our own conclusions.

This was posted by Zoe who finished F5 as a response to Blake's tweet that he told Sam before he went public with Louise.

Zoe O'Brien wrote: @BlakeGarvey don't you think you've put Sam through enough? The 'version' of u I knew was better than this. Enjoy ur life with Lou privately

by Gina Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:54 pm

by emusha Today at 12:44 am
p.s. by "After finale" I think Lisa might have meant after the FRC in South africa vs. the airing of the FRC do we know either way?

That's what I initially thought too Emusha! I thought it was after the actual FRC. Remember both Sam and Blake mentioned during the time that they were engaged but hiding it from the public (before the FRC aired) that Blake had made contact with Lisa- and Sam was aware of this. IMO perhaps Sam being aware of this contact was due to Lisa telling her that Blake asked if she had feelings!

by mercieme Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:58 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:
sks wrote:http://www.2dayfm.com.au/scoopla/tv/blog/2014/10/did-the-bachelors-sam-frost-lie-all-along/

Jules :“that was the rumour, I had a mate who worked on The Bachelor, he said that’s what the crew was saying, that Louise was the one he was in love with”.

I've been watching the clock waiting for the Aussie's to wake up because I just knew there would be more twists!

Sam isn't sure if she's still in love with Blake? When was this recorded?

GA this was recorded after the break up post finale when both her & Blake did the media rounds.

by Guest Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:16 pm

sks wrote:http://www.2dayfm.com.au/scoopla/tv/blog/2014/10/did-the-bachelors-sam-frost-lie-all-along/

Jules :“that was the rumour, I had a mate who worked on The Bachelor, he said that’s what the crew was saying, that Louise was the one he was in love with”.

GuardianAngel:"There are so many twists speculation and rumours we really don't know the truth. Cutting him some slack, I'm sure he was told what to say what not to say and when to say it. So after all this, I still blame production, who IMO are responsible for this whole mess." 100% agree

I think all the people who said I had a mate... I had a friend.. whatever it was they think.... we really do not know. I for once thought he was in love with Sam. The crew would not know since he did not spend much time with any of the girls off the camera. What I read was that he was spending more time off camera with Lisa. Seeing how he cried hard when Lisa was sent home and looking for Lisa to reconcile with her after he broke with Sam tell a lot of whom he actually was in love with. I think the whole thing trying to shift the blame to Sam is really bizarre. People are trying to make out that Blake is the genuine good bloke who is genuine in trying to find love... well I got this to say...give this romance some good years to strive and I believe he is genuine. How could you say so many nice things to a girl to get her to confess and then said later you are actually in love with another. I do not know how anyone could accept that kind of behaviour as genuine. Beats me.

But GA, I agree that then production team is to be blamed. They screwed Rochelle from season one and I am sure they did that to Blake as well. For a man he is really naive and gullible en ought to do what he is told and not what his heart is. Louise has mentioned that she will not let him off easily by reminding him that she is not his first choice. She was in fact his third choice. Some people on Bachelor's FB mentioned that after the HTV, he would choose either Lisa or Louise... many said he would choose Lisa. I guess they were right. All the bachelorettes also viewed that it was going to be Lisa. Looks like he finally settled for a second best after Lisa. I really hope he tresures Louise's scarifice for him.

by emusha Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:19 pm

Gina wrote:by emusha Today at 12:44 am
p.s. by "After finale" I think Lisa might have meant after the FRC in South africa vs. the airing of the FRC do we know either way?

That's what I initially thought too Emusha! I thought it was after the actual FRC. Remember both Sam and Blake mentioned during the time that they were engaged but hiding it from the public (before the FRC aired) that Blake had made contact with Lisa- and Sam was aware of this. IMO perhaps Sam being aware of this contact was due to Lisa telling her that Blake asked if she had feelings!

exactly what i was thinking.

i don't see a plausible motive for Lisa to make up this story AND the dots do connect-- blake and sam BOTH admitted to blake being in touch with lisa post filming. I do see how Lisa could have easily stayed impartial without much damage either way. But she didn't and she revealed that during that period of time when both sam and blake were aware of blake being in touch with her -- blake propositioned to lisa. with this being true I see no way for what blake said about him wanting to protect louise being consistent with this situation between blake and lisa. I also don't see it being consistent with the rumors about blake being in love with louise and wanting her but not picking here. there're a lot of things that don't add up but what was said pre-the B-L bomb being dropped about blake's communications with lisa and post- BL bomb being dropped the pieces do match up - the story is that they were in touch as confirmed by all 3 sam, blake and lisa.

there are too many moving parts when it comes to blake and what he says/said with all that he said being totally excused it stacks up against the story coming from Lisa paired with her "sisters before misters" post and her being pro-sam from the get go when she was in close touch with blake before that point. what made her switch her position so immediately?

by Guest Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:47 pm

Does any one know what happen to Jessica. She has been very very quite ever since the escort thing went online. I am just wondering as she has been very supportive of Sam in the past.

by Gina Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:55 pm

Jess is Mia- I would think she would want to go abroad as she was last year.

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