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Post by ellmack Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:10 pm

So in light of a few people saying that things still don't seem to be adding up (Blake not being upset saying goodbye to Louise, some tweets Louise favourited, Blakes disappearing comments re not being with Lou, etc)... how about another scenario?

After that anon phone call re the escort, Blake suddenly had a massive revealation that he infact didn't really know Sam enough, or any of the other girls for that matter, to be able to categorically say who the caller was referring to, and this really shook him up (hence the stunned/confused look on his face during that call). Blake goes home and has a good long hard think about whether he indeed knows enough about Sam to make that lifelong commitment, comes to the realisation that he doesn't, and so ends things the next day.

So now he has to front up to Ch10/Shine and let them know what's gone down. They go into a spin - Blake has tarnished the whole premise of the show and their desire to have a 2/2 un-blemished 'love' record is in tatters. So discussions get held and they come up with Louise as their possible saviour. Knowing that Blake and Louise weren't (appearing to be) connected all that much, seeing how their farewell went, the producers decide to get in touch with Lou to see if she's up for a deal. Afterall, Louise has experience in event planning/management/PR... she's perfect. A $$$$'s deal gets made by Shine/Ch10 with Louise for her to come out saying "yeah we're together" and therefore they can save at least some of their reputation and be able to say "See? Our show really will find you love... in the end!!"  Could explain the few weeks of silence/semi-denials, while the last of how it was all going to play out, got ironed out?

Lou really does look like she's the one in control here... almost like it's a paid job and she's gonna do it to the best of her ability. She is a really lovely girl, I really liked Lou on the show and I know I'm not alone, so that too would make her the perfect saviour. I'm not saying she could've been 'hired' to save Blake, I think Shine/Ch10 no longer really care about Blake... but I think she could've been 'hired' to save the show, the franchinse, the whole premise of the series. That's far more important in their eyes than saving Blake.

Anyway, just a thought I had last night and wanted to share. Probably way off base, and these 2 lovebirds are genuine.... but like others, I am still seeing some things that just aren't adding up. scratch
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Post by Sundy Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:16 pm

Oppps! Thanks GuardianAngel, lucky I missed a page then Praying Praying
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Post by ellmack Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:16 pm

Oh, and wanted to add that of course Blake would be well aware of the deal, and would get his cut of $$$'s from all the 'exclusive' magazine deals... and then several months down the track when this is all done and forgotten about, they can quietly "break up" and go their separate ways.



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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:45 pm

Ellmack, did you see the timeline I posted from the anonymous call? I kept saying way, way back when that things changed from that day on. Blake went from continually being so happy in interviews and by the end of that call he looked like he could believe the possibility (like you said not knowing Sam enough) that there was some doubt there. (Remember there were rumours being spread of Sam as a party girl even though not one photo showed up of this). So your theory could be technically correct, especially considering how Channel10 is in the red. 

But here is my problem and the crux of the matter.... 

Blake's reaction to any of the girls, or Sam being the person the caller referred to is a double standard. As important as the dates are what is most important is what was the call about? Adult Entertainment Business. Something that related to what Blake is involved in himself/owns! And no one focused on that in interviews. He cannot deny it because it is fact that is easily confirmed. 

I find it interesting that no one has paid attention to the fact that Blake still owns Alpha Male and now Louise is moving to Perth, according to this article. It is fact he registered the company in his name. It is not assumption. Obviously Channel10 do not want to highlight this fact at all. Louise is the perfect person to salvage Blake's reputation as an Alpha Male Stripper business owner, which is the crux of what the call was about.. the caller said "Oh Blake knows about this.." because the caller knew Blake owned a business in that industry. 

I am not saying that there may not be a genuine love story here, but there is no way that Blake will be able to keep owning his stripper business while he lives in Perth with Louise and her dad being aware of it. I just don't see that happening. It would tarnish her reputation if she is married and the wife/co-owner by default of Alpha Male Entertainment.
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Post by sharkie Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:09 pm

This story has soooo many holes in it. Going way back to the home visit. Louise nearly had a coronary because Blake spilled a drink on her dad. But now her dad is ok with all this and a stripper boss as a son in law. No way!!!! IMO this is all a set up, Blake and Louise dreamed this all up for the publicity. Who knows...perhaps they were not even her real parents. None of it makes sense and the letter looks like it was written by a PR person. The biggest hole is that immediately after proposing to Sam and having the opportunity to finally be together he was completely shut off. It's not how real people act.

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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:34 pm

What I am worried about, concerning Louise and Blake is that, those that are rooting for them are doing so because we all want to believe in the love story.

The problem is that Blake and Louise have yet to experience 'reality' of being in a relationship. Their relationship has always been in the *Bachelor Bubble*, even up until now.

Louise has yet to even experience life with Blake in the real world. They are still in the *Bachelor Bubble*. Their whole relationship has been not in reality. Their paid trip/rendezvous to exotic Thailand is no different than a paid trip to South Africa and drinking wine and being catered to in the presidential suite. That is not real life. It is only starting now. And from what Blake has shown, he likes being in the bubble with other people paying for exotic trips. Blake talked about having to 'hang out' with Sam in a regular setting. Just food, tv, what-not. He didn't like it at all. Where's the romance in hanging out together with your SO with the tv when you are used to traveling to exotic destinations and being catered to? Yes, I worry for Louise...

They have never experienced having a relationship in the real world yet. That only happens after you come out of hiding and live a boring day to day existence where the most exotic thing you are doing is deciding what to cook, where to grocery shop, what laundry detergent you prefer. And they are moving in together after being in the bubble? That will be the true test for their relationship.

I will say that the vitriol they have gotten (mostly directed at Blake) is something that will initially draw them close to each other. Go more into a bubble even more, so to speak. Sometimes public venom makes people like each other more because they feel victimised together... once the hype dies down and no one cares anymore they will actually see who they really are in real life. I am just hoping that before Louise picks up her life and moves to Perth to live with Blake that he tells her the truth about him owning or having owned (if he has sold it) Alpha Male Entertainment. She deserves to know this. But her moving to Perth makes me wonder why Blake is not willing to move for her? Is it because of his business? I understand his mom, etc. But that is asking a LOT from Louise... first to forgive him for dumping her and proposing to another girl and then she has to move to where he lives?

I am all for a love story. I am all for a Mesnick. What I am not for is Louise not knowing all the facts about Blake's occupational history. Of not knowing who Blake is outside of the bachelor bubble. Not knowing who he is when they are not at some exotic destination. Any of the money they have earned will not be enough to sustain the lifestyle the experienced while on the show and even when they were falling deeply in love in Thailand. It is as if them going to Thailand was just an added on FRC to the show.

Relationships need to have compromise.

I don't understand why Louise is doing all of it. Forgiving Blake, defending Blake in public, and then moving across the country to live where he lives?? I just worry for her, that is all. hmmm
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Post by Sundy Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:43 pm

Its just not gelling with me folks. Blake states he told Sam of his feelings and she asked him to be silent? This doesn't make sense? She honestly seemed confused. It will be interesting to see the interview tonight on The Project. Louise seems completely different post production, and she seems to be the one taking control. I think I am going to have to wait for The Project to air to see if I believe it or not. Sams response to this will be interesting too, as I seem to believe what she says more than Blake. Is it possible that this was the plan all along and that Louise has been playing a part? Post production there were photos of her at a hens day and she seemed fine, even baking for her friend, happy to have her photo taken etc. It struck me at the time as strange that she was so ok at being at a hens day when she had just gone through being eliminated. It seems doubly strange now! Who knows?
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Post by sharkie Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:52 pm

Maybe Louise is the escort and they are going into biz together in Perth sneakyl

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Post by ellmack Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:16 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:Ellmack, did you see the timeline I posted from the anonymous call? I kept saying way, way back when that things changed from that day on. Blake went from continually being so happy in interviews and by the end of that call he looked like he could believe the possibility (like you said not knowing Sam enough) that there was some doubt there. (Remember there were rumours being spread of Sam as a party girl even though not one photo showed up of this). So your theory could be technically correct, especially considering how Channel10 is in the red.

Just went back and re-read the last couple of pages again. I read them late, late, last night on my phone and was falling asleep and trying desperately to keep reading, laugh out loud. Looks like we agree on pretty much everything! Smiley
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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:24 pm

Sundy wrote:Its just not gelling with me folks.  Blake states he told Sam of his feelings and she asked him to be silent?  This doesn't make sense?  She honestly seemed confused. It will be interesting to see the interview tonight on The Project.  Louise seems completely different post production, and she seems to be the one taking control.  I think I am going to have to wait for The Project to air to see if I believe it or not.  Sams response to this will be interesting too, as I seem to believe what she says more than Blake.  Is it possible that this was the plan all along and that Louise has been playing a part?  Post production there were photos of her at a hens day and she seemed fine, even baking for her friend, happy to have her photo taken etc.  It struck me at the time as strange that she was so ok at being at a hens day when she had just gone through being eliminated. It seems doubly strange now!  Who knows?

I think Sam straight up asked Blake if he was wanting to be with Louise (or any other girl for that matter) and he told her no, she is paranoid.

Here is my evidence to back up this opinion/theory:
--- Blake said and Sam's IG confirms that they split around Sept18.
--- The day before, Blake was adamant he was still with Sam yet he was talking about how he and Louise where passing cooking tips/messages to each other and had been doing to post-show and he then baked profiteroles with Louise.
--- Where? When? did this happen?
--- I bet Sam watched that interview and questioned him on this. It would make a LOT of sense to question him when she is hearing that he is passing message with someone he dumped and cooked with her (profiteroles are not easy to make, especially two batches as he said he did with Louise). He probably told her she is paranoid.
--- Sam asked Louise about the rumours and Louise said she was hurt by them (her favourites on twitter are from October 9th, a week post-final show and she was favoriting a tweet that said she deserves waaaay better than Blake.. I posted this tweet upthread).
--- Lisa said she asked Louise if she was with Blake and whether there was any truth to the rumours and Louise told Lisa NO. Lisa herself said she hopes Louise is not lying to her.
--- Even Zow asked Blake if the rumours were true on twitter... Blake tweeted "Last week I was pregnant with Lisa, this week I am with Louise, who is confirming these allegations on my behalf?"... He deleted that tweet just after he got the Magazine deal ($50K) and had Max Markson pr-team.
--- He evaded the question of is there someone else when Carrie Brickmore interviewed him on The Project. Sam and he were already broken up. He said his heart was broken and he didn't have the headspace to even think about someone else because it was too raw. One week later and he is totally in love with Louise and in magazine deals declaring they are moving in together?

The thing is. From the interview, Blake let slip that he and Louise were in contact long before the breakup. They even baked together. This all happened before he broke up with Sam. He said that Sam was just laid back, too laid back for him. This should not have surprised Blake. He himself stated that Sam is a ripped jeans and t-shirt girl. He knew that from their first date! He reiterated that all the way to the proposal, that he knew she was down to earth and genuine. Even in his breakup interview he stated she was genuine and has no filter. We have evidence of Blake without PR and Blake with PR and he deleted anything that was evasive/denying rumours once he got the PR. Because it is guilt.

If he had the courage to break off an engagement right before the proposal aired, then he had the courage to say there is someone else. There is no 'feelings' to take into consideration when you have dumped someone other than giving them the honest truth. He didn't give her the main reason he broke up with her because of Louise because Louise (as of October 9th) was still favoriting tweets that she deserved waaaay better than Blake. He was working to get Louise to take him back and so he couldn't tell Sam a definite YES it is Louise until Louise would go into public WITH him as she has done now and looks like she is control of it all. It is now Louise's true love story rather than their love story. I feel for her.




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Post by AllAboutLove Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:24 pm

Question: Does anyone find it odd that Louise has forgiven Blake, publicly spoken out and defended Blake, and is willing to pack up and leave her family and move to Perth for Blake? What is he doing for her? Where is the compromise? He told her that he wants to be her 1st, last, and ONLY love. And yet, sadly, Louise will never get to be Blake's 1st, last, and only love. This is too unbalanced for my taste. Louise is giving up a LOT for Blake and Blake is getting more than he is giving up.
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Post by mercieme Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:32 pm

When I see tweets like this I can't help but wonder if some conspiracy with Channel 10 is involved scratch

Some day the whole truth will come out for sure, it always does.

@DHughesy wrote: Surely Blake gets a bonus from ch10 for promoting @TheBachelorAU brand above and beyond contractual obligations? #epic #theprojecttvtonite

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