Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #7

[alwaystulips]

mindless, I love your post.  Nick has been nothing but nice post show, except for one question. 

I didn't listen to that interview, but is sounds like Josh and Andi are both still acting like everything is Nick's fault and poor Andi for people criticizing her.  If that is true, then I am finished with them both.  

Since this is the Nick thread and we are almost 3 weeks since the AFTR and at least a week since the last time even mentioned Andi, can we move on to discussion of Nick without the couple?  The discussion isn't changing anyone's mind.

I will be happy to continue to discuss Josh and Andi in their thread, but since they act as if Nick doesn't exist, maybe we can act as if they don't exist in Nick's thread.

No, I listened, and to me it didn't sound that way at all.  She didn't assign any blame or even address Nick by name - Sandra, the female interviewer did.  Sandra called him "creepy Nick" and said she's in therapy over that guy.  Andi responded to a question about negative criticism, generally, in social media.  She said she had gotten upset and cried about it, until Josh told her none of it matters.  That people hide behind keyboards.  And, due to his support she has stopped reading it.  No specifics by Andi about Nick, except to say the breakup happened 10-12 weeks before the ATFR.  It was strange and sort of weird to be dealing with that so many months later.  I got the impression they have definitely moved on. 

Nowwwwww, about Nick.  I've said this before and I'll say it again.  What's with that ugly patriotic henley?  I think he's put that Lolla photo on his Twitter banner just to drive me crazy.  Yes, me personally.      I'm the only one it seems to bother.  Clothes must hold a deep association for me.  It keeps the memory of the crap he said on the airplane alive.  Reconsider, Nick.

[Kashathediva]

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[Iam4UGA]

 I will add, it's ironic that people are supposed to just dismiss the way Nick behaved as just producer influenced and it's hiw he was "on the show".  But, when it comes to Andi, well she is just the "Supreme Queen of the Most horrible Beeyotches". Plenty of people chose not to like her but disliking Nick is not allowed?      

As far as I see it, I have not liked Nick from the first time I saw him on my TV, and no, there is nothing that will make me change my mind.

[stuckinsc]

mindless, I love your post.  Nick has been nothing but nice post show, except for one question. 

I didn't listen to that interview, but is sounds like Josh and Andi are both still acting like everything is Nick's fault and poor Andi for people criticizing her.  If that is true, then I am finished with them both.  

Since this is the Nick thread and we are almost 3 weeks since the AFTR and at least a week since the last time even mentioned Andi, can we move on to discussion of Nick without the couple?  The discussion isn't changing anyone's mind.

I will be happy to continue to discuss Josh and Andi in their thread, but since they act as if Nick doesn't exist, maybe we can act as if they don't exist in Nick's thread.

No, I listened, and to me it didn't sound that way at all.  She didn't assign any blame or even address Nick by name - Sandra, the female interviewer did.  Sandra called him "creepy Nick" and said she's in therapy over that guy.  Andi responded to a question about negative criticism, generally, in social media.  She said she had gotten upset and cried about it, until Josh told her none of it matters.  That people hide behind keyboards.  And, due to his support she has stopped reading it.  No specifics by Andi about Nick, except to say the breakup happened 10-12 weeks before the ATFR.  It was strange and sort of weird to be dealing with that so many months later.  I got the impression they have definitely moved on. 

Nowwwwww, about Nick.  I've said this before and I'll say it again.  What's with that ugly patriotic henley?  I think he's put that Lolla photo on his Twitter banner just to drive me crazy.  Yes, me personally.      I'm the only one it seems to bother.  Clothes must hold a deep association for me.  It keeps the memory of the crap he said on the airplane alive.  Reconsider, Nick.

I responded to the A&J stuff in their thread.

As for that henley. Nick is very responsive to comments on his twitter, maybe you could ask him to take it down?   

I like Nick's henleys but completely understand the association might bring back bad memories. I honestly don't go to Nick's twitter all that often, so I haven't noticed it. I wait and read his stuff in his fan thread.

[stuckinsc]

Discuss what you will.  I actually have no problem with people not liking Nick.  It is everyone's right.  Please discuss him at length and criticize him as you please.  I guess for me, lets hate on him for something new, the same old thing gets boring after a while.  

Is their anything new since August 7th and Nick's guest article on Sean's blog that involves Nick and Andi and Josh?  I am happy to discuss Josh and Andi's media and interviews, I just thought the Josh and Andi discussion thread is a better place to do that.

[whit90]

Are we suppose to dismiss how Andi's behavior has been through the show and after. IMO she is a cold hearted woman that enjoys telling people. I have never been a Andi fan never will be . She showed her true colors to Nick, Eric, and JPG.  I bet the rest of the 24 guys feel very lucky they dodged the Andi bullet. JMO.

[Iam4UGA]

I don't care if you don't like Andi, it's just funny how some people's behavior is supposed just influenced by the producers, but others are not?  They were all on the show so why weren't they all influenced by the producers?

[stuckinsc]

I agree and you beat me to it!  I will add, it's ironic that people are supposed to just dismiss the way Nick behaved as just producer influenced and it's hiw he was "on the show".  But, when it comes to Andi, well she is just the "Supreme Queen of the Most horrible Beeyotches". Plenty of people chose not to like her but disliking Nick is not allowed?      

As far as I see it, I have not liked Nick from the first time I saw him on my TV, and no, there is nothing that will make me change my mind.

Are we suppose to dismiss how Andi's behavior has been through the show and after. IMO she is a cold hearted woman that enjoys telling people. I have never been a Andi fan never will be . She showed her true colors to Nick, Eric, and JPG.  I bet the rest of the 24 guys feel very lucky they dodged the Andi bullet. JMO.  

I don't care if you don't like Andi, it's just funny how some people's behavior is supposed just influenced by the producers, but others are not?  They were all on the show so why weren't they all influenced by the producers?

I do think all were influenced by producers. I think I asked that very question. If we excuse Josh and Andi why not Nick. It goes both ways, if we excuse Nick, we should also excuse Josh and Andi. To some degree, I do both.

I am not trying to make anyone who doesn't like Nick like him. I get that we all have people that we like and all have people that we don't. That is perfectly okay.

Just be fair, if TPTB manipulation works for one it works for all.

[whit90]

I don't care if you don't like Andi, it's just funny how some people's behavior is supposed just influenced by the producers, but others are not?  They were all on the show so why weren't they all influenced by the producers?

I never once said Andi's behavior was producer driven to me that is the real Andi and it is not classy one bit. JMO

[Lucas15]

Clothes must hold a deep association for me.  It keeps the memory of the crap he said on the airplane alive.  Reconsider, Nick.

So ... what's your take on the blue women's Lululemon capri's Nick wore on the plane home?  :hidingchair

[Iam4UGA]

Are we suppose to dismiss how Andi's behavior has been through the show and after. IMO she is a cold hearted woman that enjoys telling people. I have never been a Andi fan never will be . She showed her true colors to Nick, Eric, and JPG.  I bet the rest of the 24 guys feel very lucky they dodged the Andi bullet. JMO.  

I don't care if you don't like Andi, it's just funny how some people's behavior is supposed just influenced by the producers, but others are not?  They were all on the show so why weren't they all influenced by the producers?

I do think all were influenced by producers.  I think I asked that very question.  If we excuse Josh and Andi why not Nick.  It goes both ways, if we excuse Nick, we should also excuse Josh and Andi.  To some degree, I do both.  

I am not trying to make anyone who doesn't like Nick like him.  I get that we all have people that we like and all have people that we don't.  That is perfectly okay.

Just be fair, if TPTB manipulation works for one it works for all.

Thank you! ITA. You can't excuse it for one and not the other. You know that, and I am totally surprised at the # of people that watch and post on boards that argue this every season.

[sdmom]

Nowwwwww, about Nick.  I've said this before and I'll say it again.  What's with that ugly patriotic henley?  I think he's put that Lolla photo on his Twitter banner just to drive me crazy.  Yes, me personally.      I'm the only one it seems to bother.  Clothes must hold a deep association for me.  It keeps the memory of the crap he said on the airplane alive.  Reconsider, Nick.

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Hey, thanks for discussing something new! I will be happy to put my   
Fashion-wise, I don't like that henley either, and the denim shorts that goes with the top - I think it's not attractive at all!!
Sentimentally, since I am not Nick , I can't say why he wears it again after that infamous plane video (BTW, he did say he was a mess that day, and he wished he could take the things he said about Josh back. I believe he's sincere but that's another story), but IMO, he' ready to put things behind and move on, that's why he doesn't mind wearing that henley. Frankly, don't most people think Nick should move on?
That Lolla photo is him with his friends old and new. To me, it says that he had a great time with them and was grateful for them.
I know, I am biased, and I am proud of it!  

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