Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - Fan Forum - Updates - Discussion - Thread #9

[notarose]

Thanks dear Mura,

The Anthony Robbins unlimited power principle makes a lot of sense given what we’ve seen and I think you have it correctly pegged; Nick was willing to risk it all for love, Andi was not … and so the fact that they both experienced the same level of passion and had diametrically opposed responses is just very very hard to reconcile.  

And in those circumstances, it makes sense that Nick would continue to press on for a positive love resolution and Andi would retreat to her current militant anti love position.  They are opposite sides of the same coin; both holding on for dear life.  Nick called Andi stubborn, but he is as well; stubborn in terms of believing the reality that they two of them shared and being unwilling to let it go.  

And to quote what I wrote earlier, I have ZERO doubt that Nick is misreading the situation: The thing is I trust Nick... and I believe Nick when he assessed that Andi was falling in love with him. He said he never felt it before. I believe that Nick had the correctly tuned measuring stick for whether or not she was deceiving him. Of course, what I saw on tv (and what he said he also saw watching the episodes back) only supported his assessment. It's not like Nick saw something different from what he experienced.  

So I applaud Nick for being unwilling to let it go, why would he… from his perspective what he had with Andi was a once in a lifetime love… one you don’t throw away.  He literally and figuratively prostrated himself at her feet, left no stone unturned, gave her every possible chance to come to her senses.  The fact that Nick was willing to continue to pursue Andi even after he was rejected multiple times doesn’t make him crazy or a stalker, rather a prince, a heroic figure willing to fight the dragons (and yes, in this case, Andi is the dragon!!) to win his princess.  The storybook he wrote is the perfect reflection of their experience.

Nick knows Andi, sees all of her, right into the depths of her soul… there’s no one or nothing that would be more effective than Nick in reaching Andi.  And if I’m being honest, a part of me is still waiting for Andi to come to her senses and live out the happy ending to their fairytale…

I so agree with your assessment  Suest.  

Eloquent and persuasive in the best possible way, Sue. I'm waiting with you...

[Pia1]

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I like the way Nick is looking at that girl! And that's not the same girl as his BFF that sign him up for TB.  It's a geniune smile and look.

[isittrue]

Thanks dear Mura,

The Anthony Robbins unlimited power principle makes a lot of sense given what we’ve seen and I think you have it correctly pegged; Nick was willing to risk it all for love, Andi was not … and so the fact that they both experienced the same level of passion and had diametrically opposed responses is just very very hard to reconcile.  

And in those circumstances, it makes sense that Nick would continue to press on for a positive love resolution and Andi would retreat to her current militant anti love position.  They are opposite sides of the same coin; both holding on for dear life.  Nick called Andi stubborn, but he is as well; stubborn in terms of believing the reality that they two of them shared and being unwilling to let it go.  

And to quote what I wrote earlier, I have ZERO doubt that Nick is misreading the situation: The thing is I trust Nick... and I believe Nick when he assessed that Andi was falling in love with him. He said he never felt it before. I believe that Nick had the correctly tuned measuring stick for whether or not she was deceiving him. Of course, what I saw on tv (and what he said he also saw watching the episodes back) only supported his assessment. It's not like Nick saw something different from what he experienced.  

So I applaud Nick for being unwilling to let it go, why would he… from his perspective what he had with Andi was a once in a lifetime love… one you don’t throw away.  He literally and figuratively prostrated himself at her feet, left no stone unturned, gave her every possible chance to come to her senses.  The fact that Nick was willing to continue to pursue Andi even after he was rejected multiple times doesn’t make him crazy or a stalker, rather a prince, a heroic figure willing to fight the dragons (and yes, in this case, Andi is the dragon!!) to win his princess.  The storybook he wrote is the perfect reflection of their experience.

Nick knows Andi, sees all of her, right into the depths of her soul… there’s no one or nothing that would be more effective than Nick in reaching Andi.  And if I’m being honest, a part of me is still waiting for Andi to come to her senses and live out the happy ending to their fairytale…

I so agree with your assessment  Suest.  

Eloquent and persuasive in the best possible way, Sue.  I'm waiting with you...

What nice posts you all write. So much easier to stay in this thread for so many reasons. TBH, I am still shaking my head at the events that went down after the FD and beyond. Unfortunately, I truly think Andi is stubborn enough to never give Nick a chance; she will never admit if she had feelings or not - she will always look to save face. I do think Nick's true match is out there and hope that he finds someone else to have a mental, emotional, and physical connection with in the near future.

[Pia1]

I so agree with your assessment  Suest.  

Eloquent and persuasive in the best possible way, Sue.  I'm waiting with you...

What nice posts you all write.  So much easier to stay in this thread for so many reasons.   TBH, I am still shaking my head at the events that went down after the FD and beyond.  Unfortunately, I truly think Andi is stubborn enough to never give Nick a chance; she will never admit if she had feelings or not - she will always look to save face.  I do think Nick's true match is out there and hope that he finds someone else to have a mental, emotional, and physical connection with in the near future.  

It's probably not going to happen but can you imagine if she did change her mind, we probably wouldn't know how to react.

[notarose]

Eloquent and persuasive in the best possible way, Sue.  I'm waiting with you...

What nice posts you all write.  So much easier to stay in this thread for so many reasons.   TBH, I am still shaking my head at the events that went down after the FD and beyond.  Unfortunately, I truly think Andi is stubborn enough to never give Nick a chance; she will never admit if she had feelings or not - she will always look to save face.  I do think Nick's true match is out there and hope that he finds someone else to have a mental, emotional, and physical connection with in the near future.  

It's probably not going to happen but can you imagine if she did change her mind,  we probably wouldn't know how to react.

OMG comes to mind   In truth, the tv Nick we've come to adore is a product of his past.  His "minute" engagement which when broken off bruised his ego by his own admission and led to a growth spurt that, in part, made him the man we see today.  Had we encountered him when he was at that stage in his life, he would have been a different version of himself.  
My point being, we have milestone moments in life that serve to provide opportunity to change our trajectory.  Choice is a matter of the mind and ,although past decisions are fixed in time, every new day is a new page in one's own life script.  We pen our own next step on the landscape of our life.

“New Beginnings are often disguised as painful endings.”
― Lao Tzu

[unknown82]

Eloquent and persuasive in the best possible way, Sue.  I'm waiting with you...

What nice posts you all write.  So much easier to stay in this thread for so many reasons.   TBH, I am still shaking my head at the events that went down after the FD and beyond.  Unfortunately, I truly think Andi is stubborn enough to never give Nick a chance; she will never admit if she had feelings or not - she will always look to save face.  I do think Nick's true match is out there and hope that he finds someone else to have a mental, emotional, and physical connection with in the near future.  

It's probably not going to happen but can you imagine if she did change her mind,  we probably wouldn't know how to react.

Even if she changed her mind, which I think will never happen, I would still advise Nick to run as fast as he can!  There is something very unsettling about somebody that can say and do all the right things to make you fall in love and then the next day turn around and treat you like you were delusional and worthless.  This is the kind of person you need to avoid at all costs!  They are very dangerous! I would also be disappointed in Nick if he took her back because quite honestly, there are not many redeeming qualities about Andi.... Not enough for me to want Nick to be stuck with her for the rest of his life!

[Brill]

What nice posts you all write.  So much easier to stay in this thread for so many reasons.   TBH, I am still shaking my head at the events that went down after the FD and beyond.  Unfortunately, I truly think Andi is stubborn enough to never give Nick a chance; she will never admit if she had feelings or not - she will always look to save face.  I do think Nick's true match is out there and hope that he finds someone else to have a mental, emotional, and physical connection with in the near future.  

It's probably not going to happen but can you imagine if she did change her mind,  we probably wouldn't know how to react.

Even if she changed her mind, which I think will never happen, I would still advise Nick to run as fast as he can!  There is something very unsettling about somebody that can say and do all the right things to make you fall in love and then the next day turn around and treat you like you were delusional and worthless.  This is the kind of person you need to avoid at all costs!  They are very dangerous!

I agree that she would only bring heartache to Nick over and over!! I'd rather have Jock (not misspelled) have to deal with her.    

[sdmom]

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[sdmom]

I think Nick saw a side of Andi: cold, lack of empathy that he'd not seen before. I don't think he would take her even if she changes her mind (which I don't think so)

ETA:
I am glad we just stay here and have some fun. I don't understand why some still try to discredit Nick. They got their JODI happily ever after story, and we got one fine Nick to    , everyone should be happy! IMO

[beader]

It's probably not going to happen but can you imagine if she did change her mind,  we probably wouldn't know how to react.

Even if she changed her mind, which I think will never happen, I would still advise Nick to run as fast as he can!  There is something very unsettling about somebody that can say and do all the right things to make you fall in love and then the next day turn around and treat you like you were delusional and worthless.  This is the kind of person you need to avoid at all costs!  They are very dangerous!

I agree that she would only bring heartache to Nick over and over!!  I'd rather have Jock (not misspelled) have to deal with her.    

Totally agree Brill. The only way I'd even think about giving my blessing to an Andy/Nick come-back (not that my blessing counts   ) would be if Andi literally went down on both knees to beg Nick's forgiveness for being a total jerk--and all of this is shown on national TV. But, MeAndI never admits she was wrong, so it "ain't gonna' happen."

[Kashathediva]

JJ looks better in those candids then he ever did on the screen.

[SueSt]

Thanks everyone for all the photos. Love Nick    hate the shirt   because it brings back the memory of that infamous video. However, I think he's so over the whole experience so he doesn't mind wearing that shirt again!

As for the tweet about kissing a girl... unless I see a picture or I won't believe it.

thanks sdmom.  I read that quote before it was posted on this board and refused to bring it over... for the very reason you state.

Apologises if it offended... I don't know if it's true or not. Just interesting to see what people tweet.

No offense taken.   

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