Re: Josh Murray Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* Updates - Discussion - Thread #11

[Piper61]

  I go along with Josh's lovely mom, Lauren Goodhart Murray when she said their committed relationship  began when Josh slipped that ring on Andi's finger.. I think Josh is a very smart young man..so thoughtful and  down to earth..I like to think he will not dwell upon anyone or anything in Andi's past that would cause negativity..It's the love and trust they have for each other today that will move them forwards to their future as Mr and Mrs Josh Murray...  I love those kids..  

Perfectly stated!   

[Guest]

can i just say i love the bromance between josh and marcus. if him and andi don't work out he always has marcus!   

[moonchild]

I don't believe that it's a big deal between them. Through out the process Josh was able to handle the fact that Andi was dating many other guys at the same time she was dating him. He said that they didn't watch the episodes together...that this was her experience and he wanted her to enjoy it. He only watched his time with her and his time with the guys. A very smart and thoughtful approach, IMO. I think, as has been stated before, that he truly believes that their committed relationship did not start until he was the last man standing and she accepted his proposal.

The unfortunate thing to me is that the comment made on national TV, hurt more than just Andi (and or Josh, if that was the intent), but her family and all their friends were watching. Lauren Murray was hosting a viewing (I think involving her church). Does anyone think for a moment that she wasn't mortified, even though she handled it with such grace. There is no excuse for what was done, no matter how much producer prodding was used. BTW, how does anyone suppose Nick knew where and when Andi was "vacationing" (with Josh)? This show totally throws their lead and everyone else under the bus every chance they get and all for a few gasps from the audience. And, now they are winning again because the topic of conversation is more about "the scandal" than about the happiness of a great couple that just gave them a great season.

TMZ was on the TV in the cafeteria at lunch today at my work. I am so ashamed, but I had to watch it because they were talking about my favorite couple. It was interesting to hear the different perspectives of the men and women. The women were all pissed off that Nick had done that and that he had no right, etc, etc. The men were all, "whatever", Josh is a guy and if he slept with her, he will automatically think that the other guy(s) did too. It's no big deal to guys. I know, not the pillar of truth and morality but it was interesting to hear their perspective. I don't think Josh was anymore concerned about it than he would be about any other man she has slept with before him. I think he is smart enough to know that dwelling on something like this will probably destroy their relationship before it even starts. He seems very confident with what they have together and is only looking at their future together.

[Maggenzm]

  I go along with Josh's lovely mom, Lauren Goodhart Murray when she said their committed relationship  began when Josh slipped that ring on Andi's finger.. I think Josh is a very smart young man..so thoughtful and  down to earth..I like to think he will not dwell upon anyone or anything in Andi's past that would cause negativity..It's the love and trust they have for each other today that will move them forwards to their future as Mr and Mrs Josh Murray...  I love those kids..  

Great post!    

I love your Avi Soccermom! I was all prepared to change my evil after the proposal, but was so disappointed yesterday by Andi's act of sleeping with Nick and leading him on that I change my mind.
I am recovering slowly by watching their proposal, their LCD, and all the interviews. It's hard to stay mad at Andi when she is so in love my Joshy. I will get over it. I got over Des because she is so love with my Chris.
Where can I see all the interviews? Because I need to see a lot of them to forget that" why did you make love to me" sentence by Nick.

[Linds911]

All the interviews are being posted in the No Discussion thread at the top.

[nannymargie]

I think Andi fought her feeling for Josh the whole time and at the end she realized she loved him all along.

This. I love. This is exactly on point. And thus, I think a talent should make us a fanvid to the tune of 'CANT FIGHT THIS FEELING' by REO Speedwagon.

TOTALLY AGREE!

I think the whole time ABC somewhat altered what we saw with Josh/Andi, Nick/Andi... Yes we saw the cute, tender and romantic moments with Jodi, but ABC emphasized way too much on her doubts with Josh, and played up sterotype of him being an athlete nevermind that being 7 years ago... We never really heard her doubts with the othe men. I think ABC wanted to mislead the audience somewhat.

But back to the point. I think she definitley fought it the whole time because she of their longterm future. She took it serious. With Nick, I feel like she was just in the moment with him, didn't think about the reality of it all till that morning of when it came down to it.

She never put Nick thru the wringer like she did Josh.  Like she said Josh always stepped up to the plate every time. Josh knows her so well because he says she over thinks things and he wanted her to just turn it off. And that was the problem she didn't let herself feel the love she had for him till the last day.  With Josh's love and support Andi will be a different person.

[docnash14]

This. I love. This is exactly on point. And thus, I think a talent should make us a fanvid to the tune of 'CANT FIGHT THIS FEELING' by REO Speedwagon.

TOTALLY AGREE!

I think the whole time ABC somewhat altered what we saw with Josh/Andi, Nick/Andi... Yes we saw the cute, tender and romantic moments with Jodi, but ABC emphasized way too much on her doubts with Josh, and played up sterotype of him being an athlete nevermind that being 7 years ago... We never really heard her doubts with the othe men. I think ABC wanted to mislead the audience somewhat.

But back to the point. I think she definitley fought it the whole time because she of their longterm future. She took it serious. With Nick, I feel like she was just in the moment with him, didn't think about the reality of it all till that morning of when it came down to it.

She never put Nick thru the wringer like she did Josh.  Like she said Josh always stepped up to the plate every time. Josh knows her so well because he says she over thinks things and he wanted her to just turn it off. And that was the problem she didn't let herself feel the love she had for him till the last day.  With Josh's love and support Andi will be a different person.

Case in point - I think it was in the Atlanta interview that Andi admitted that she purposely waited to give Josh a 1-1 because she wanted "him to work for it."

[Alanna]

TOTALLY AGREE!

I think the whole time ABC somewhat altered what we saw with Josh/Andi, Nick/Andi... Yes we saw the cute, tender and romantic moments with Jodi, but ABC emphasized way too much on her doubts with Josh, and played up sterotype of him being an athlete nevermind that being 7 years ago... We never really heard her doubts with the othe men. I think ABC wanted to mislead the audience somewhat.

But back to the point. I think she definitley fought it the whole time because she of their longterm future. She took it serious. With Nick, I feel like she was just in the moment with him, didn't think about the reality of it all till that morning of when it came down to it.

She never put Nick thru the wringer like she did Josh.  Like she said Josh always stepped up to the plate every time. Josh knows her so well because he says she over thinks things and he wanted her to just turn it off. And that was the problem she didn't let herself feel the love she had for him till the last day.  With Josh's love and support Andi will be a different person.

Case in point - I think it was in the Atlanta interview that Andi admitted that she purposely waited to give Josh a 1-1 because she wanted "him to work for it."

From what I saw in the early episodes, it seems like in her mind, Josh was a stuck up cheating athlete, and I think a part of her wanted to exact revenge on him for all those other men just like him, especially the ex, now that she was in the position of ultimate power. I don't know what went wrong there but somehow her master plan got all screwed up along the way when she started having a breakdown in Italy over him, and it was all down hill for her from there

[Guest]

Now I can rewatch the season from the beginning and not feel slightly queasy in parts (yall know...)

[soccermom333]

[quote="Maggenzm"]

  I go along with Josh's lovely mom, Lauren Goodhart Murray when she said their committed relationship  began when Josh slipped that ring on Andi's finger.. I think Josh is a very smart young man..so thoughtful and  down to earth..I like to think he will not dwell upon anyone or anything in Andi's past that would cause negativity..It's the love and trust they have for each other today that will move them forwards to their future as Mr and Mrs Josh Murray...  I love those kids..  

Great post!    

I love your Avi Soccermom! I was all prepared to change my evil after the proposal, but was so disappointed yesterday by Andi's act of sleeping with Nick and leading him on that I change my mind.
I am recovering slowly by watching their proposal, their LCD, and all the interviews.  It's hard to stay mad at Andi when she is so in love my Joshy. I will get over it. I got over Des because she is so love with my Chris.
Where can I see all the interviews? Because I need to see a lot of them to forget that" why did you make love to me" sentence by Nick.[/quot




Thanks Maggenzm! Still love me some Chres but I have fallen in love with Andi and Josh. I changed my avatar to support them and I truly believe Josh is the "salt of the earth" type of man.  :cutesmile!: 

[Maggenzm]

This. I love. This is exactly on point. And thus, I think a talent should make us a fanvid to the tune of 'CANT FIGHT THIS FEELING' by REO Speedwagon.

TOTALLY AGREE!

I think the whole time ABC somewhat altered what we saw with Josh/Andi, Nick/Andi... Yes we saw the cute, tender and romantic moments with Jodi, but ABC emphasized way too much on her doubts with Josh, and played up sterotype of him being an athlete nevermind that being 7 years ago... We never really heard her doubts with the othe men. I think ABC wanted to mislead the audience somewhat.

But back to the point. I think she definitley fought it the whole time because she of their longterm future. She took it serious. With Nick, I feel like she was just in the moment with him, didn't think about the reality of it all till that morning of when it came down to it.

She never put Nick thru the wringer like she did Josh.  Like she said Josh always stepped up to the plate every time. Josh knows her so well because he says she over thinks things and he wanted her to just turn it off. And that was the problem she didn't let herself feel the love she had for him till the last day.  With Josh's love and support Andi will be a different person.

Very true! I just finish watching all their interviews, These 2 are super adorable! OMG! Andi is already a different person with Josh. Josh is definitely good for Andi, like she said, he doesn't sweat the small stuff, and she needs that. I feel so much better than yesterday.
I really never though they slept with both, may be one, but not both. This really explains why the F2 is always very heartbroken.
As far as Josh finding out about Nick sleeping with Andi, he must have known that there was a great possibility that Andi slept with both him and Nick, for it has been said that what happens in the FS stays in the FS.

Looking back in the FS on the sofa when Josh kept telling Andi he loves her, she had a look of concern, and IMO it was regretted over sleeping with Nick, I really think if Josh date was first, she would not have slept with Nick. JMO

[Guest]

 And, I put good in quotes because I know there are some that think sex with multiple people in the same week is wrong, no matter the circumstance.  I'd never judge someone else's value system if that's the case.

Well as a forty something year old woman, I must just be getting old, because I would think that most people would feel that having sex with multiple people in the same week was wrong. I don't think going on a tv show would change your values, no matter the situation. I'm not trying to judge Andi, just confused by her actions and not really buying that Josh could care less.

As a 30 something year old woman, I agree with you. Your views are not outdated which is why Josh and Andi have basically had to answer the "Andi sleeping with Nick" questions on their media tour, because many are shocked. These interviews must be very draining for them, especially for Josh - whether he already knew or not. I don't think it's fair that he has to go through this, IMHO. On top of that, he's also dealing with the hate from Nick fans who believe, unrealistically, that he should be defending Nick's actions.

Their relationship is being tested for sure. It's unfortunate when this was supposed to be their "coming" out party as a couple.

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