Re: Josh Murray Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* Updates - Discussion - Thread #11

[Guest]

I really would like to know why Nick called her out. If you go back and look at that part of the ATFR, he is physically shaking and it looks like he is having a tough time getting the words out. Did he want to say it or did the producers lead him to believe he had to say it to get the answers he wanted? As much as Nick wasn't my favorite this season, I think he regretted saying it as soon as he said it. I hope he wasn't talked into it, but this is a show trying to produce drama and that segment lasted way too long.

I wish I didn't know that she slept with Nick. Even if there were rumors, I would rather not have confirmation of them.

I know Josh will get past it, because that's the kind of guy he seems to be. But what is crazy to me is that I wanted her to pick him all season and this morning I'm not so happy she did. Because if she hadn't of picked him, he most likely would be the next Bachelor. And I'm shocked I'm even saying that because I loved/love them together. But I'm just nervous that things might not work out. I wish I wasn't, but I am. I want Josh to be happy, and that's the biggest reason I'm still going to root for this couple.

[Dixie Pines]

At least Andi was clever enough to halt Lara Spencer's questions of Nick. I thought she handled it wonderfully.

As far as Kelly Ripa, you can tell that she's not a fan of the show. It was inappropriate for her to ask Josh if he did well financially when discussing the ring. Who asks that?! 

[Cecilia]

I really would like to know why Nick called her out. If you go back and look at that part of the ATFR, he is physically shaking and it looks like he is having a tough time getting the words out. Did he want to say it or did the producers lead him to believe he had to say it to get the answers he wanted? As much as Nick wasn't my favorite this season, I think he regretted saying it as soon as he said it. I hope he wasn't talked into it, but this is a show trying to produce drama and that segment lasted way too long.

I wish I didn't know that she slept with Nick. Even if there were rumors, I would rather not have confirmation of them.

I know Josh will get past it, because that's the kind of guy he seems to be. But what is crazy to me is that I wanted her to pick him all season and this morning I'm not so happy she did. Because if she hadn't of picked him, he most likely would be the next Bachelor. And I'm shocked I'm even saying that because I loved/love them together. But I'm just nervous that things might not work out. I wish I wasn't, but I am. I want Josh to be happy, and that's the biggest reason I'm still going to root for this couple.

I think Nick said that because she was giving him zero emotion and gave him zero closure both when she dumped him and at the ATFR. She barely smiled, was stone cold and just said that he deserved love that was reciprocated. Everyone deserves that! I think he was frustrated with her lack of emotion and how closed up she was and he went there. I think if she had been a little more compassionate he wouldn't have.

I think if Josh is like JP and doesn't dwell on this info then he's a good dude.

[Guest]

I feel terrible for Josh as well. Sherri, cohost on The View, flat out called her a "ho" this morning. Josh deserves so much more than that.  

I still love them and wish them the very best, but Nick definitely tarnished their love story, IMO...

He tried to tarnish it but I think they will be fine. I seriously think NICK has issues. I think tptb thought so too. jmo

As for her sleeping with Nick, Andi is no doubt a self-sabotager (I know that's not a word). If she was honest with Josh about it, I'm glad they worked through it. She needs Josh. I just hope she treats him like a king. He deserves it and I think she will.

Lastly, I remember Chris and Des having an even worse time post-show. I think Jodi have been great thus far and overall well received!

ETA: And guys it all makes sense with the family and Josh saying Nick is in their prayers. They know a lot more than we do.

JP and Ashley are still together although Ashley slept with Ben. My take on Josh is that he is protective, but not possessive. I think the contestants know the rules of this show and know that the lead is in an emotional roller-coaster.  What I don´t understand is how Nick could fall so deeply in love after spending like 40 hours together AND not being able to let got 2,5 months later? He surely needs all the best therapists. Or perhaps it was a set up by TPTB to get people talking about the show.

[nannymargie]

At least Andi was clever enough to halt Lara Spencer's questions of Nick. I thought she handled it wonderfully.

As far as Kelly Ripa, you can tell that she's not a fan of the show. It was inappropriate for her to ask Josh if he did well financially when discussing the ring. Who asks that?! 

That's not the first time Kelly does that and she know better.

[Guest]

A lot of times the lead will say they were unsure until the last minute. A lot of times I don't believe them. I don't believe Sean decided the last minute. And I didn't believe Andi, but now I do. I think she wasn't sure and that's why she was most likely intimate with two men.

I just wonder how it would feel to get engaged to someone knowing they were unsure until the very day you proposed to them, and then afterwards finding out they had been intimate with the other man just a week or so before. I think it takes a special person to handle that, and Josh is definitely a special person. But I think it would be crazy to think it doesn't affect him at all, and leave a little doubt in his mind. I believe they are trying to just look to the future, so hopefully they can.

[Guest]

i wonder how Andi having sex with Nick is going to affect her career in the future, as much as it shouldn`t affect it I think that people definitely have a negative view of her now that wasn`t there before

[cindebugg]

I feel bad for Josh, I just do. When I was watching GMA this morning, and they brought up Nick, he looked uncomfortable. I know everyone wants to think he's fine and dandy with everything, but I don't know, I saw him kind of clench his mouth and look down and I think it still bothers him, the whole thing. And I'm sure he's also upset with Nick for calling Andi out like that.

The thing that still bothers me, after watching the ATFR again, is something Nick said. He told Andi that since she knew he was in love with her, he felt she was cavalier about the whole thing in the fantasy suite. He said he had no expectations about that night and he point blank said, "why did you make love to me." He didn't say they made love, he put it on her, like she was the one who initiated it.

The whole thing makes me feel like her whole speech to Josh at the engagement falls flat. If she was madly in love with him from the start, even if she was unsure it was going to be him in the end, she shouldn't have slept with Nick. In fact she shouldn't have slept with either one imo, if it came down to the last day for her to make her decision. I guess that's a personal decision but if you want the end result to be an engagement, at that point, shouldn't you  show respect to the one you hope to end up with.

Maybe I'm old fashioned or just spoiled from Sean's wonderful season, but this season which I loved so much has ended in a disappointment for me. As much as I hope this couple makes it, I just can't look at Andi the same way. I hope she doesn't break Josh's heart.

 

Per the bold, this seems to be a pattern with Nick.  He acted like a jerk with the guys and then played the victim card around Andi. He favorites horrible tweets and then says he didn't realize he did it or he didn't read the entire tweet. GMAB.  Like I said last night, Nick was is the FS with his pants around his ankles too. Also, we didn't see much of Andi and Nick's last conversation.  Listening to the plane video it seems that Andi had a lot more to say to him that we weren't privy to.
  IMO he's just a spiteful guy.  He wanted to make sure that Josh knew he slept with her in the FS.   So glad that Andi came clean with Josh before hand.  If Josh is OK about it then I am too.  I can only imagine the emotions and fears that swirl around being in such an odd environment.  Even though Andi made a bad choice sleeping with him (you know she's kicking herself in the butt for it) I still believe she has been one of the best leads this franchise has seen.   She tried her hardest not to let those initial feelings she had for Josh grow,but Josh's mojo proved too strong for her to ignore.  I totally get it!!

[Guest]

I guess I just feel like it's not this great love story that I thought it was because she was literally so unsure until the last minute. It makes what she said to Josh about falling in love immediately, not seem as genuine to me. And also, her sleeping with Nick, definitely tarnishes the love story for me. JMO of course.

[ThankMeLater]

i wonder how Andi having sex with Nick is going to affect her career in the future, as much as it shouldn`t affect it I think that people definitely have a negative view of her now that wasn`t there before

That was my first thought. Her ex-boss's family watches the show so that would be extremely awkward to go back and work there.

[Alanna]

I guess I just feel like it's not this great love story that I thought it was because she was literally so unsure until the last minute. It makes what she said to Josh about falling in love immediately, not seem as genuine to me. And also, her sleeping with Nick, definitely tarnishes the love story for me. JMO of course.

I don't think Andi said she loved him immediately and always knew he was f1, what I understood is that when she met him, she immediately got scared of him and what she was feeling and didn't know what it was. She was all irrational with him all season and couldn't understand what he did to her, it was only the morning the frc that she realized all these crazy feelings are actually love for him. It was only clear to her in hindsight imo, not at m&g. And I think we can see it by her behavior, she was always different with him, always chasing after him, always worried about him, even when she tried to push him away, she couldn't handle it when he was away like during their lie detector drama. So it took her that long to understand what was going on and how afraid she was that she's actually, totally in love with him.

[nannymargie]

I guess I just feel like it's not this great love story that I thought it was because she was literally so unsure until the last minute. It makes what she said to Josh about falling in love immediately, not seem as genuine to me. And also, her sleeping with Nick, definitely tarnishes the love story for me. JMO of course.

I don't think Andi said she loved him immediately and always knew he was f1, what I understood is that when she met him, she immediately got scared of him and what she was feeling and didn't know what it was. She was all irrational with him all season and couldn't understand what he did to her, it was only the morning the frc that she realized all these crazy feelings are actually love for him. It was only clear to her in hindsight imo, not at m&g. And I think we can see it by her behavior, she was always different with him, always chasing after him, always worried about him, even when she tried to push him away, she couldn't handle it when he was away like during their lie detector drama. So it took her that long to understand what was going on and how afraid she was that she's actually, totally in love with him.

I think Andi fought her feeling for Josh the whole time and at the end she realized she loved him all along.

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