Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #5

[Guest]

I know this is Nick's thread, but just want to point this out... One of Josh's last statements during his MTA summary stood out to me:
I waited 29 year to have this feeling and I finally have it and I definitely don’t want to let it go so I’m going to fight for her.
Foreshadow ???

me thinks he is the letter guy  (re:second chance)

if i am the only one out of 7000+ who think so, so be it   #Anomaly

[torybean]

Do you guys believe in screen cap clues more than SM?

I believe in SC clues and agree that is Andi crying on sofa that matches the one in Nick's room.

I still don't automatically conclude Nick is F2 because of this. Why?......because I would expect much much more of a melt down if she where letting him go. Her crying was controlled and unlike when she was letting other guys go where she could barely stop.

Perhaps he gets cold feet? It has been foreshadowed in the edit that he walks at F2. While I don't believe he will walk, I could see him being unsure and looking for reassurance.

Sorry I'm responding in this thread!!

[torybean]

I know this is Nick's thread, but just want to point this out... One of Josh's last statements during his MTA summary stood out to me:
I waited 29 year to have this feeling and I finally have it and I definitely don’t want to let it go so I’m going to fight for her.
Foreshadow ???

me thinks he is the letter guy  (re:second chance)

if i am the only one out of 7000+ who think so, so be it   #Anomaly

Mura.....you and I are on the same page! I mentioned up thread that Josh is probably the letter writer.  

[stuckinsc]

If you want to discuss it, I put it in Nick's thread (not the fan thread)

I will happily talk about it.

[happygolucky]

Nutty ... I base my belief on the edit ... I follow the logic of the storyteller ... and for now the chances are showing us 50/50, but Nick was always leading, his story of relationship development with Andi is the strongest ... it all comes down to real feelings of Andi, which I don't know about, I can only assume (if I permit myself to be a bit presumptuous) from what she stated all along (and I know better not to trust the words, but this time they didn't seem made-up, because they were too strong to be forgotten) there's something powerful between them ... so she, in my vision, would go for Nick.
SM is fun ... and definitely helps creating a positive environment, that I don't mind (but comes with the prize, because it brings so much negativity too)
SCs are great, but until you don't know the order and circumstances of things, you can't make predictions. Then once it would be established that that couch was indeed in HIS room and she was crying there AFTER letting him go ... then it would make sense.
For now, I go just with the edit and my gut feeling of who she "likes" more.
And hoping for Nick and his love to be reciprocated and for Andi to not only experience this kind of love once in a lifetime, but to live it - because she does become a better version of herself with him. If I'm wrong ... I'll accept my defeat on the day it happens.

[SueSt]

Do you guys believe in screen cap clues more than SM?

I believe in SC clues and agree that is Andi crying on sofa that matches the one in Nick's room.

I still don't automatically conclude Nick is F2 because of this. Why?......because I would expect much much more of a melt down if she where letting him go. Her crying was controlled and unlike when she was letting other guys go where she could barely stop.

Perhaps he gets cold feet? It has been foreshadowed in the edit that he walks at F2. While I don't believe he will walk, I could see him being unsure and looking for reassurance.

Sorry  I'm responding in this thread!!

Ok, interesting point tory.
Is it possible that Nick takes a step back after the MTP dates since he's not sure he has Andi's parents support???

[stuckinsc]

Do you guys believe in screen cap clues more than SM?

I believe in SC clues and agree that is Andi crying on sofa that matches the one in Nick's room.

I still don't automatically conclude Nick is F2 because of this. Why?......because I would expect much much more of a melt down if she where letting him go. Her crying was controlled and unlike when she was letting other guys go where she could barely stop.

Perhaps he gets cold feet? It has been foreshadowed in the edit that he walks at F2. While I don't believe he will walk, I could see him being unsure and looking for reassurance.

Sorry  I'm responding in this thread!!

Ok, interesting point tory.
Is it possible that Nick takes a step back after the MTP dates since he's not sure he has Andi's parents support???

I am going to move this to Nick discussion and respond there.

[Guest]

Do you guys believe in screen cap clues more than SM?

I believe in SC clues and agree that is Andi crying on sofa that matches the one in Nick's room.

I still don't automatically conclude Nick is F2 because of this. Why?......because I would expect much much more of a melt down if she where letting him go. Her crying was controlled and unlike when she was letting other guys go where she could barely stop.

Perhaps he gets cold feet? It has been foreshadowed in the edit that he walks at F2. While I don't believe he will walk, I could see him being unsure and looking for reassurance.

Sorry  I'm responding in this thread!!

well.. i am on the same page with you on this one too tory!

an andless of realm possibilities if this couch-saga. She is overwhelmed with her own feeling, worry Nick wouldnt propose, etc that doesnt automatically place him as the F2. JMO. one of the possibilities: they changed/photoshopped the actual color of the sofa.  SCMIIW TPTB had changed Molly/ Melissa dress color on Jason's preview. Too funny that Nick mentioned a Mesnick on that plane video .

i wouldnt pass TPTB anything   

i have followed the golden rule to read the Preview since Des's season:
- Drew leaving on the preview = Drew booted off
- My Prince Chris rubbing his eyes on the limo look like a dumpee = He gets the girl

likewise, this season: They want us to think Nick is sent home. To me, it means Josh will be booted off prior to FRC. We shall see!

[sdmom]

This is probably not a popular opinion here, but IMO
IF Nick is f1 and happy with Andi, then I am happy for him.
HOWEVER, last night's live tweets remind me again Andi is not a very nice girl (IMO of course), and I say:
FREE NICK!
One more week and our boy will be free!! Free from TPTB's manipulation, free from scrutiny and hatred on SM, free to pursue whatever his heart desires . So, f1 or f2, he's in a win-win situation!!
Agree with stuck: Nick is good so I am good!

[torybean]

Do you guys believe in screen cap clues more than SM?

I believe in SC clues and agree that is Andi crying on sofa that matches the one in Nick's room.

I still don't automatically conclude Nick is F2 because of this. Why?......because I would expect much much more of a melt down if she where letting him go. Her crying was controlled and unlike when she was letting other guys go where she could barely stop.

Perhaps he gets cold feet? It has been foreshadowed in the edit that he walks at F2. While I don't believe he will walk, I could see him being unsure and looking for reassurance.

Sorry  I'm responding in this thread!!

Ok, interesting point tory.
Is it possible that Nick takes a step back after the MTP dates since he's not sure he has Andi's parents support???

Yep. I'm thinking they left that statement in about Andi giving him reassurance every step of the way for a reason. He said in his VO that he was afraid, so I wouldn't be surprised if he steps back if she can't reassure him.

Overall I just don't see that cap as her letting him go. If so, she displayed much more emotion with Cody and Chris.

[SueSt]

Yes, Tory.   

Again, put this is spoiler thread... but here too...

Is it possible that Andi is crying because Nick is taking a step back because his MTP outing with Andi's parents doesn't go as well as he'd like?
Is it possible Nick says let's wait to move forward until you/your parents are really sure.
This would cause Andi to cry, but doesn't forgo Nick being F1.

[Longhornfan]

I have a question regarding the letter that they showed CH give to Andi.  They made a much bigger deal out of it last night.  Can someone who follows RS please answer this question for me?

Did RS ever mention in any of his blogs, twitter posts, etc. (much further back, as opposed to just recently) that he was told by the source of the plane video that Nick had said that he wanted to write Andi a letter?  It seems odd that that was not captured on the tape, since it would seem like something that Nick would have said near the end of the video - at least to me.

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