Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #5

[SueSt]

True. like Brooks and Des tweeting at the same time, mum at the same time:); All 4 senior vet whom i know got  'reliable' inside scooping throughout the season, and 24 hrs before finale reconfirmed that 'THEY are still engaged and happy'.  :cutesmile!: 

actually i still miss one of them --a sweetheart, helpful, friendly lady--whom we havent heard since the end of Des's season, Aug 13--thanks to the 'damage' due to the false info

i respect those who wanna take that 'road'. As for me, i chose to take the more difficult 'road' , believing my own eyes, heart , mind and my silly detective skill . If i have to mention only a single reason on why i would love for RS to get his sweetest kaboom evah it would be: bc he has made my 'job' to root for the Spoiled F2 and The LS extremely difficult 2 years in a row!!  :P   

   I am also with you on the bolded! I think it is difficult for those that are not on #TeamF1 to begin with. Last season was tough being one of few Chres fans.

I knew Chris was the F1 last season because I worked with him.  Although, he didn't tell us, I knew because when he came back he was very happy, and didn't seem heartbroken.  I tried in a subtle way to convince people Brooks wasn't F1, but it always got dismissed because of alleged "clues."

I find this season to be very similar.   Josh is the spoiled F1, with many clues to kind of back that up.  Nick who is the spoiled F2, always gets his clues dismissed.  Even though I don't have the same inside information this season, I believe Nick is the F1, mainly because he seems similarly happy on SM.  Josh. IMO, does not seem "happy."  

VERY good points, RR. MVMOM put out a long list of collected SM clues yesterday (see page 7). I think there are a lot of clues pro and con... mainly used by people to support 'their' F1... For me, even with the SM, I always go back to what I see on the screen (and yes, this is open to interpretation, edit interpretation, etc... but for me, there is only one F1!!) and as it plays out on my screen, I only see one true love. Overwhelming.

[MonicaJM2001]

:WAVEY: Count me in!!! I've been on the Nick and Andi luv train since Epi 3   No doubt about it....these two crazy kids are in luv and headed towards IMPENDING DANGER (thx Mura!!).  Following their journey has made this season such a pleasure.   

And to add a cherry on top, I believe TPTB along with a super sneaky lead / supporting cast have played the ultimate "MIND GAME" on RS and others who have taken the bait.    

 :peanutbutter:  and   anyone???

i concur the Impending Danger Torybean! .

thats why i think im more excited for the ATFR than FRC. (even though i already stocked tissue box for happy tears on Adorb Mess FRC ..). I cant help but channeling my inner Nick : trying to figure out which and how the possible scenarios are gonna play out  :strings1 .

Bring it on! im ready to celebrate the obvious love of the season that has been hidden (by the spoilers) in the plain sight all along!. Let the ' dangerous' love poppin!

Cannot wait for the end to get here, do we really have to watch the men tell all?! Bring on crunchy  :peanutbutter: and   and  

[SueSt]

:WAVEY: Count me in!!! I've been on the Nick and Andi luv train since Epi 3   No doubt about it....these two crazy kids are in luv and headed towards IMPENDING DANGER (thx Mura!!).  Following their journey has made this season such a pleasure.   

And to add a cherry on top, I believe TPTB along with a super sneaky lead / supporting cast have played the ultimate "MIND GAME" on RS and others who have taken the bait.    

 :peanutbutter:  and   anyone???

i concur the Impending Danger Torybean! .

thats why i think im more excited for the ATFR than FRC. (even though i already stocked tissue box for happy tears on Adorb Mess FRC ..). I cant help but channeling my inner Nick : trying to figure out which and how the possible scenarios are gonna play out  :strings1 .

Bring it on! im ready to celebrate the obvious love of the season that has been hidden (by the spoilers) in the plain sight all along!. Let the ' dangerous' love poppin!

Cannot wait for the end to get here, do we really have to watch the men tell all?! Bring on crunchy  :peanutbutter: and   and  

At this point, I may have to pass on the PB... and just move on directly to the WINE!!!  

Bring it on!!     danceround :crazy dance: 

[black_tears]

Nick FANS ... here's why I think Nick is final one ...

- Nick posting and removing two photos of him on IG soon after returning: 1) messy haired, bare chested looking to side (like he just woke up during SH visit) and 2) one of the ones on red bench/earpiece showing  

- Tweet from Nick's dad about favorite scene from Princess Bride re: inconceivable w/hashtag #TeamNick. Now his Princess Bride references takes on bigger relevance considering Nick's story book for Princess Andi!

- Andi and Nick's tweets about red wine and peanut butter; calling Bella (whom Andi said could be a future lawyer) "little peanut." So does that mean Nick's code name is "red wine" and Andi's is "peanut butter." Well, according to Andi, they go great together.

- Andi saying in very recent interviews that she wanted to Shout her pick; Nick posting Shout song ... this was too blatant of him to tweet so I bet ABC PR team told him to pull back. Notice that Nick's newer tweets are back to being mixed messages? I need hug ...

- Plane video weirdness ... and isn't there the ever so slight possibility that guy in video could be Nick's look alike brother with an earpiece who just so happened to be absent from the HTD but they flashed his picture on wall. I know we saw a photo of one of Nick's brothers here and we all thought it was Nick.

- The entire season ... Nick getting more time with Andi than any former winner ... First impression rose, GDR ep 4, solo date on ep 3/6, secret time Brussels, "most important rose of season" per Andi with rose going into HTD ... her frequent references to "mental/emotional/intellectual/passion/chemistry" etc.

- Meet her dad's expectations ... we all know how critical her dad was that Andi didn't get much time with JP so you can bet he is going to expect that his daughter gives her F1 loads of time/attention.

- Did anyone listen to last AfterBuzz Bachelorette recap? Danny Hoyt mentions that he has exchanged about 10 DMs w/Nick for past 2 weeks and then later (about 27 minutes in) he briefly mentions that he got a couple of snapchats during MTA taping weekend, which is when both Nick and Andi were in LA. Both JC and Cathy asked Danny to say more and he just said, "Nope!" Danny is 100 percent Team Nick for F1. This mention is so subtle and happens so fast that it's easy to miss. Listen for it!

- Andi resigned from job - which she claimed to LOVE. Yes, she kept door open for possible rehire in December. But wouldn't she have to say that in letter to keep the foiler going? And, wouldn't she have to resign if she was going to start looking for jobs in Chicago, which BTW is about 1 1/2 hour plane ride from her family in Atlanta so nice and close.

- ALL this noise now about Josh being F1 ... too loud!

- RS getting way too many clues falling into his lap ... too easy!

- And, FINALLY, what really convinces me is Chris Harrison's last blog  

CHRIS BLOG ...

"Josh is her type, he’s the comfortable choice she’s fallen for many times during her life. This obviously hasn’t worked out so well in the past and that’s why she’s been so worried about this relationship and so skeptical of Josh all along. She’s worried about making the same old mistake. But the problem with the “comfort zone” is it’s so darn comfortable. It just feels right even if it’s not.”

“Nick, on the other hand is the unknown, the road or “rose” less traveled. Nick is the kind of relationship and guy I think Andi aspires to be with. A guy she’s never really given herself a chance to fall for. Nick is a guy who will challenge her and push her in ways she’s never known before. The problem with the “road less traveled” guy is at the end of the day when the pressure is on, can Andi really pull the trigger and choose this different lifestyle?"

***

The "problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Josh is negative towards the type of relationship Josh offers ... a "mistake."

Whereas "the problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Nick is really all about Andi ... "can SHE pull the trigger"? ... is SHE strong enough ... did SHE grow from experience ABC offered her?

Unless ABC is going to start throwing Andi under the bus (and I don't see why at this stage), Fleiss & Co wants to present Andi as someone very capable of pulling the trigger!

Shoot, they showed us lots of footage of Andi pulling triggers in Juan Pablo's season so we know YES, she can shoot to win.

Andi has been a good soldier for ABC all season. Chris has called her one of the smartest Bachelorettes ever. They are not going to show her in a bad light at this stage and making a decision that Chris H referenced as being a mistake.

***

So, that's all I got. What did I miss?

TeamNick ... F1 on July 28 ... KABOOM!

      thank you for such an amazing post!!!!!!!! I completely agree with all of the points you made as to why it is very believeable that Nick is F1. I was going to write something out similar with all my thoughts on why but you saved my fingers some typing and described it perfectly! I remember last year Chris H was always throwing shade on my Bres in his blogs and it was so discouraging but I kept hoping it meant nothing but then it actually did. I hope for this year the same thing applies because CH is definitely not propping up F1 Josh/Andi as a feel good/ awe inspiring ending. I mean no matter what the ending is, CH has basically said in the blog that Nick is who Andi aspires to be with and should be with and basically says that picking Josh means going with the comfort zone even if it isn't right. He seems to think very highly of Andi as Bachelorette so it is going to be pretty weird if Andi does choose Josh based on the above sentiments. From what he blogged, it seems it comes down to if Andi is brave enough to pull the trigger and go with the different but once in a lifetime connection vs same old same old. My guess is she did pop the cork and open that yet new yet exciting bottle of red wine.......  :Woah-hoo:

Wow. Laid out this way it seems pretty obvious that Nick is F1.  

[SueSt]

I just tweeted to Nick that I was eating Cheetos at the airport in honor of him, and he faved it        
I wish I knew what he thought about that dang video.

Clearly he knows what you are talking about.  That's so funny.

Good point RR; I take this as a positive sign!!   

[MonicaJM2001]

“And the precise rating of kisses is a terribly difficult thing, often leading to great controversy, because although everyone agrees with the formula of affection times purity times intensity times duration, no one has ever been completely satisfied with how much weight each element should receive. But on any system, there are five that everyone agrees deserve full marks. Well, this one left them all behind.”
― William Goldman, The Princess Bride

So um Andi's hands in the first pic 

[DKWillis]

l noticed it earlier when it was 1st posted but didn't want to go there just chuckled to myself thinking how did it feel notty me :cutesmile!: 

[rosesrREd]

Nick FANS ... here's why I think Nick is final one ...

- Nick posting and removing two photos of him on IG soon after returning: 1) messy haired, bare chested looking to side (like he just woke up during SH visit) and 2) one of the ones on red bench/earpiece showing  

- Tweet from Nick's dad about favorite scene from Princess Bride re: inconceivable w/hashtag #TeamNick. Now his Princess Bride references takes on bigger relevance considering Nick's story book for Princess Andi!

- Andi and Nick's tweets about red wine and peanut butter; calling Bella (whom Andi said could be a future lawyer) "little peanut." So does that mean Nick's code name is "red wine" and Andi's is "peanut butter." Well, according to Andi, they go great together.

- Andi saying in very recent interviews that she wanted to Shout her pick; Nick posting Shout song ... this was too blatant of him to tweet so I bet ABC PR team told him to pull back. Notice that Nick's newer tweets are back to being mixed messages? I need hug ...

- Plane video weirdness ... and isn't there the ever so slight possibility that guy in video could be Nick's look alike brother with an earpiece who just so happened to be absent from the HTD but they flashed his picture on wall. I know we saw a photo of one of Nick's brothers here and we all thought it was Nick.

- The entire season ... Nick getting more time with Andi than any former winner ... First impression rose, GDR ep 4, solo date on ep 3/6, secret time Brussels, "most important rose of season" per Andi with rose going into HTD ... her frequent references to "mental/emotional/intellectual/passion/chemistry" etc.

- Meet her dad's expectations ... we all know how critical her dad was that Andi didn't get much time with JP so you can bet he is going to expect that his daughter gives her F1 loads of time/attention.

- Did anyone listen to last AfterBuzz Bachelorette recap? Danny Hoyt mentions that he has exchanged about 10 DMs w/Nick for past 2 weeks and then later (about 27 minutes in) he briefly mentions that he got a couple of snapchats during MTA taping weekend, which is when both Nick and Andi were in LA. Both JC and Cathy asked Danny to say more and he just said, "Nope!" Danny is 100 percent Team Nick for F1. This mention is so subtle and happens so fast that it's easy to miss. Listen for it!

- Andi resigned from job - which she claimed to LOVE. Yes, she kept door open for possible rehire in December. But wouldn't she have to say that in letter to keep the foiler going? And, wouldn't she have to resign if she was going to start looking for jobs in Chicago, which BTW is about 1 1/2 hour plane ride from her family in Atlanta so nice and close.

- ALL this noise now about Josh being F1 ... too loud!

- RS getting way too many clues falling into his lap ... too easy!

- And, FINALLY, what really convinces me is Chris Harrison's last blog  

CHRIS BLOG ...

"Josh is her type, he’s the comfortable choice she’s fallen for many times during her life. This obviously hasn’t worked out so well in the past and that’s why she’s been so worried about this relationship and so skeptical of Josh all along. She’s worried about making the same old mistake. But the problem with the “comfort zone” is it’s so darn comfortable. It just feels right even if it’s not.”

“Nick, on the other hand is the unknown, the road or “rose” less traveled. Nick is the kind of relationship and guy I think Andi aspires to be with. A guy she’s never really given herself a chance to fall for. Nick is a guy who will challenge her and push her in ways she’s never known before. The problem with the “road less traveled” guy is at the end of the day when the pressure is on, can Andi really pull the trigger and choose this different lifestyle?"

***

The "problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Josh is negative towards the type of relationship Josh offers ... a "mistake."

Whereas "the problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Nick is really all about Andi ... "can SHE pull the trigger"? ... is SHE strong enough ... did SHE grow from experience ABC offered her?

Unless ABC is going to start throwing Andi under the bus (and I don't see why at this stage), Fleiss & Co wants to present Andi as someone very capable of pulling the trigger!

Shoot, they showed us lots of footage of Andi pulling triggers in Juan Pablo's season so we know YES, she can shoot to win.

Andi has been a good soldier for ABC all season. Chris has called her one of the smartest Bachelorettes ever. They are not going to show her in a bad light at this stage and making a decision that Chris H referenced as being a mistake.

***

So, that's all I got. What did I miss?

TeamNick ... F1 on July 28 ... KABOOM!

      thank you for such an amazing post!!!!!!!! I completely agree with all of the points you made as to why it is very believeable that Nick is F1. I was going to write something out similar with all my thoughts on why but you saved my fingers some typing and described it perfectly! I remember last year Chris H was always throwing shade on my Bres in his blogs and it was so discouraging but I kept hoping it meant nothing but then it actually did. I hope for this year the same thing applies because CH is definitely not propping up F1 Josh/Andi as a feel good/ awe inspiring ending. I mean no matter what the ending is, CH has basically said in the blog that Nick is who Andi aspires to be with and should be with and basically says that picking Josh means going with the comfort zone even if it isn't right. He seems to think very highly of Andi as Bachelorette so it is going to be pretty weird if Andi does choose Josh based on the above sentiments. From what he blogged, it seems it comes down to if Andi is brave enough to pull the trigger and go with the different but once in a lifetime connection vs same old same old. My guess is she did pop the cork and open that yet new yet exciting bottle of red wine.......  :Woah-hoo:

I agree about CH blog, he was basically saying that Josh wasn't the right choice.  Usually CH props up the F1 in his blogs. We saw this is Des' season, where Brooks was the spoiled F1, but CH was very skeptical of Brooks, and said some very unflattering things about him.  While CH has not been all out mean to Josh, he has said that "Josh feels right even when it's not."   He knows the outcome, and it seems like hinting that Josh isn't the F1.  I get that CH job is to create doubt, but in the past, the only spoiled F1 he has been this skeptical about was Brooks, and it just so happened that Brooks wasn't the F1.

There is a lot of evidence that Nick is the F1, as described above.  As I stated above Nick looks and sounds very happy, Josh does not seem happy, at least per his SM posts.  Which is why I believe Nick is the F1, contrary to the spoilers.

[MonicaJM2001]

Has this been posted? Sorry if I missed it...

Andi favorited this..

Lauren @scorpio_lo  ·  Jul 7
I can finally share my candid pic of Andi loving milwaukee!!! @AndiDorfman #TheBachelorette


(Look at the hairdo behind Andi  ) This girl is sitting across the table so she must be one of Nick's friend, so I went to her account and saw that Lauren favorited this by a friend of hers:

Jennifer N @JenNitch5053  ·  Jul 7
@AndiDorfman @viallnicholas28 by a landslide! Dream guy

this tweet has since been deleted from Jennifer's but remains in the favorites for Lauren.

Jennifer favorited these:

Dana Weiss @Possessionista  ·  Jul 14
Sorry, I still think she should pick Nick. #TheBachelorette

Brian Osborne @Coach_Osborne  ·  Jul 14
@viallnicholas28 "yea...no I'm down!"  best line yet.

Holly Julian @HollyDurst  ·  Jul 14
Nick is right up my alley with this book! #TheBachelorette #HesStillMyFav

Sean Lowe @SeanLowe09  ·  Jul 14
Actually impressed with the illustration in Nick's book. Nothing funny about that. #TheBachelorette

Thanks for bringing this over. I am cracking up at the girl with blond hair behind Andi. I know it is most likely innocent and coincidence but it looks like the girl is just glaring at her

[black_tears]

Nick FANS ... here's why I think Nick is final one ...

- Nick posting and removing two photos of him on IG soon after returning: 1) messy haired, bare chested looking to side (like he just woke up during SH visit) and 2) one of the ones on red bench/earpiece showing  

- Tweet from Nick's dad about favorite scene from Princess Bride re: inconceivable w/hashtag #TeamNick. Now his Princess Bride references takes on bigger relevance considering Nick's story book for Princess Andi!

- Andi and Nick's tweets about red wine and peanut butter; calling Bella (whom Andi said could be a future lawyer) "little peanut." So does that mean Nick's code name is "red wine" and Andi's is "peanut butter." Well, according to Andi, they go great together.

- Andi saying in very recent interviews that she wanted to Shout her pick; Nick posting Shout song ... this was too blatant of him to tweet so I bet ABC PR team told him to pull back. Notice that Nick's newer tweets are back to being mixed messages? I need hug ...

- Plane video weirdness ... and isn't there the ever so slight possibility that guy in video could be Nick's look alike brother with an earpiece who just so happened to be absent from the HTD but they flashed his picture on wall. I know we saw a photo of one of Nick's brothers here and we all thought it was Nick.

- The entire season ... Nick getting more time with Andi than any former winner ... First impression rose, GDR ep 4, solo date on ep 3/6, secret time Brussels, "most important rose of season" per Andi with rose going into HTD ... her frequent references to "mental/emotional/intellectual/passion/chemistry" etc.

- Meet her dad's expectations ... we all know how critical her dad was that Andi didn't get much time with JP so you can bet he is going to expect that his daughter gives her F1 loads of time/attention.

- Did anyone listen to last AfterBuzz Bachelorette recap? Danny Hoyt mentions that he has exchanged about 10 DMs w/Nick for past 2 weeks and then later (about 27 minutes in) he briefly mentions that he got a couple of snapchats during MTA taping weekend, which is when both Nick and Andi were in LA. Both JC and Cathy asked Danny to say more and he just said, "Nope!" Danny is 100 percent Team Nick for F1. This mention is so subtle and happens so fast that it's easy to miss. Listen for it!

- Andi resigned from job - which she claimed to LOVE. Yes, she kept door open for possible rehire in December. But wouldn't she have to say that in letter to keep the foiler going? And, wouldn't she have to resign if she was going to start looking for jobs in Chicago, which BTW is about 1 1/2 hour plane ride from her family in Atlanta so nice and close.

- ALL this noise now about Josh being F1 ... too loud!

- RS getting way too many clues falling into his lap ... too easy!

- And, FINALLY, what really convinces me is Chris Harrison's last blog  

CHRIS BLOG ...

"Josh is her type, he’s the comfortable choice she’s fallen for many times during her life. This obviously hasn’t worked out so well in the past and that’s why she’s been so worried about this relationship and so skeptical of Josh all along. She’s worried about making the same old mistake. But the problem with the “comfort zone” is it’s so darn comfortable. It just feels right even if it’s not.”

“Nick, on the other hand is the unknown, the road or “rose” less traveled. Nick is the kind of relationship and guy I think Andi aspires to be with. A guy she’s never really given herself a chance to fall for. Nick is a guy who will challenge her and push her in ways she’s never known before. The problem with the “road less traveled” guy is at the end of the day when the pressure is on, can Andi really pull the trigger and choose this different lifestyle?"

***

The "problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Josh is negative towards the type of relationship Josh offers ... a "mistake."

Whereas "the problem" that Chris sets up with Andi picking Nick is really all about Andi ... "can SHE pull the trigger"? ... is SHE strong enough ... did SHE grow from experience ABC offered her?

Unless ABC is going to start throwing Andi under the bus (and I don't see why at this stage), Fleiss & Co wants to present Andi as someone very capable of pulling the trigger!

Shoot, they showed us lots of footage of Andi pulling triggers in Juan Pablo's season so we know YES, she can shoot to win.

Andi has been a good soldier for ABC all season. Chris has called her one of the smartest Bachelorettes ever. They are not going to show her in a bad light at this stage and making a decision that Chris H referenced as being a mistake.

***

So, that's all I got. What did I miss?

TeamNick ... F1 on July 28 ... KABOOM!

      thank you for such an amazing post!!!!!!!! I completely agree with all of the points you made as to why it is very believeable that Nick is F1. I was going to write something out similar with all my thoughts on why but you saved my fingers some typing and described it perfectly! I remember last year Chris H was always throwing shade on my Bres in his blogs and it was so discouraging but I kept hoping it meant nothing but then it actually did. I hope for this year the same thing applies because CH is definitely not propping up F1 Josh/Andi as a feel good/ awe inspiring ending. I mean no matter what the ending is, CH has basically said in the blog that Nick is who Andi aspires to be with and should be with and basically says that picking Josh means going with the comfort zone even if it isn't right. He seems to think very highly of Andi as Bachelorette so it is going to be pretty weird if Andi does choose Josh based on the above sentiments. From what he blogged, it seems it comes down to if Andi is brave enough to pull the trigger and go with the different but once in a lifetime connection vs same old same old. My guess is she did pop the cork and open that yet new yet exciting bottle of red wine.......  :Woah-hoo:

I agree about CH blog, he was basically saying that Josh wasn't the right choice.  Usually CH props up the F1 in his blogs. We saw this is Des' season, where Brooks was the spoiled F1, but CH was very skeptical of Brooks, and said some very unflattering things about him.  While CH has not been all out mean to Josh, he has said that "Josh feels right even when it's not."   He knows the outcome, and it seems like hinting that Josh isn't the F1.  I get that CH job is to create doubt, but in the past, the only spoiled F1 he has been this skeptical about was Brooks, and it just so happened that Brooks wasn't the F1.

There is a lot of evidence that Nick is the F1, as described above.  As I stated above Nick looks and sounds very happy, Josh does not seem happy, at least per his SM posts.  Which is why I believe Nick is the F1, contrary to the spoilers.

I am way behind here, its been a busy couple weeks for me, but what makes us think this?

[black_tears]

“And the precise rating of kisses is a terribly difficult thing, often leading to great controversy, because although everyone agrees with the formula of affection times purity times intensity times duration, no one has ever been completely satisfied with how much weight each element should receive. But on any system, there are five that everyone agrees deserve full marks. Well, this one left them all behind.”
― William Goldman, The Princess Bride

So um Andi's hands in the first pic 

Maybe it's just the angle of the first picture, but my my looks like Andi is digging for some…gold..    

[rosesrREd]

      thank you for such an amazing post!!!!!!!! I completely agree with all of the points you made as to why it is very believeable that Nick is F1. I was going to write something out similar with all my thoughts on why but you saved my fingers some typing and described it perfectly! I remember last year Chris H was always throwing shade on my Bres in his blogs and it was so discouraging but I kept hoping it meant nothing but then it actually did. I hope for this year the same thing applies because CH is definitely not propping up F1 Josh/Andi as a feel good/ awe inspiring ending. I mean no matter what the ending is, CH has basically said in the blog that Nick is who Andi aspires to be with and should be with and basically says that picking Josh means going with the comfort zone even if it isn't right. He seems to think very highly of Andi as Bachelorette so it is going to be pretty weird if Andi does choose Josh based on the above sentiments. From what he blogged, it seems it comes down to if Andi is brave enough to pull the trigger and go with the different but once in a lifetime connection vs same old same old. My guess is she did pop the cork and open that yet new yet exciting bottle of red wine.......  :Woah-hoo:

I agree about CH blog, he was basically saying that Josh wasn't the right choice.  Usually CH props up the F1 in his blogs. We saw this is Des' season, where Brooks was the spoiled F1, but CH was very skeptical of Brooks, and said some very unflattering things about him.  While CH has not been all out mean to Josh, he has said that "Josh feels right even when it's not."   He knows the outcome, and it seems like hinting that Josh isn't the F1.  I get that CH job is to create doubt, but in the past, the only spoiled F1 he has been this skeptical about was Brooks, and it just so happened that Brooks wasn't the F1.

There is a lot of evidence that Nick is the F1, as described above.  As I stated above Nick looks and sounds very happy, Josh does not seem happy, at least per his SM posts.  Which is why I believe Nick is the F1, contrary to the spoilers.

I am way behind here, its been a busy couple weeks for me, but what makes us think this?

Someone posted Josh's tweets a while back, but don't know which thread it's in. You should be able to go to Twitter and read them. Nick's seems optimistic and happy, and Josh, not so much, but just IMO.

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