Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #3

[Norcalgal]

This is out of left field but remember the episode (Final 6 or 9 guys, can't remember which one) when the guys were discussing Nick and Brian said, "He'll be one of the final 2 and walk away"? That foreshadowing (even if prompted by a producer) was left in editing for a reason. Perhaps Nick just couldn't pull the trigger and propose. Perhaps the letter we see at the MTA is explaining why. That would explain why Nick seems pretty happy. He might be really satisfied with where he is right now.

[Guest]

Well said docnash! My favorite part of the whole fantasy date episode was when Andi openly and willing told Josh she can be difficult. She admitted it and she knows it. Josh immediately called her out on it and said she had already been difficult with him. I remember on the lie detector test date he simply said he didn't like it because he felt like they finally built some trust between the two of them and she got super defensive and in my eyes made matters worse, but what was great was that Josh didn't allow her to walk all over him. I think this will be good for Andi because I don't think she's ever really been with someone that would tell her "no" and that's not to say anything bad about Andi. Sometimes that's just the way it is and I do think Josh will be good for her in this regard.

When she was recapping her relationships she did say that Josh recognizes that she can be a diva and bratty and understands it and how he sees all of her. It's a good thing that Josh recognizes this, but it's also great he doesn't let her off the hook either.

ITA! I'm so glad that you pointed out the recap with her saying Josh sees all of her (diva, bratty side etc.), because he does seem to get her and he seems to have a calming effect on her (the Andi whisperer someone mentioned). I felt that people were only pointing out her VO's about Nick seeing "every part of her" and it's obvious Josh does too.

[Guest]

I've got to applaud Andi for ending up with two guys at the end who are both so good for her in different ways. She did a great job of weeding them out, and tptb did a beautiful job of casting this season.

[stuckinsc]

I've got to applaud Andi for ending up with two guys at the end who are both so good for her in different ways. She did a great job of weeding them out, and tptb did a beautiful job of casting this season.

   I totally agree. My favorite F2 ever! And casting wise, we had really great guys, all 24 except for Andrew. He was just king douchebag to me!

[Luvvy]

I agree, one of the best cast seasons.

[Alanna]

Well said docnash! My favorite part of the whole fantasy date episode was when Andi openly and willing told Josh she can be difficult. She admitted it and she knows it. Josh immediately called her out on it and said she had already been difficult with him. I remember on the lie detector test date he simply said he didn't like it because he felt like they finally built some trust between the two of them and she got super defensive and in my eyes made matters worse, but what was great was that Josh didn't allow her to walk all over him. I think this will be good for Andi because I don't think she's ever really been with someone that would tell her "no" and that's not to say anything bad about Andi. Sometimes that's just the way it is and I do think Josh will be good for her in this regard.

When she was recapping her relationships she did say that Josh recognizes that she can be a diva and bratty and understands it and how he sees all of her. It's a good thing that Josh recognizes this, but it's also great he doesn't let her off the hook either.

ITA! I'm so glad that you pointed out the recap with her saying Josh sees all of her  (diva, bratty side etc.), because he does seem to get her and he seems to have a calming effect on her (the Andi whisperer someone mentioned). I felt that people were only pointing out her VO's about Nick seeing "every part of her" and it's obvious Josh does too.

I hope this will continue to be the case and Josh's innate desire to protect and care for her won't make him totally whipped. Part of the reason I can root for them is because he stands up to her and tells her no and brings her crazy down by not engaging in a power battle. I think she loves it too and hopefully they don't lose now that he loves her more than anything and she's the first priority, etc.

[Judiful]

I keep saying Andi and Josh bring out the best in each other which is such an awesome thing ..Besides, they have so much in common it's just uncanny !! I love them together .
  

[rinacabigas]

Long time member/lurker and a poster once in a blue moon.  I'm Team Josh and read RS spoilers.  In my opinion, Andi's plot is similar to Ali. At the RC after HTD, Ali gave the 1st rose to Roberto, then gave the last rose to Roberto at the RC after the FD.  Same happened to the RC's of Andi during HTD & FD.  Andi's grilling Josh is similar to Ali questioning Roberto  & having doubts.  I also have a theory on who's getting eliminated next by the scene that they show with the credits.  Marcus was eliminated during RC of HTD and he was shown with Brian, Dylan during the credits on the episode before the HTD, scenes with Chris at the HTD was shown on that episode and he's eliminated at the FD RC.  At the last epi (FD), Nick was shown during the credits.  So, in my opinion he's F2.

[Linds911]

Well said docnash! My favorite part of the whole fantasy date episode was when Andi openly and willing told Josh she can be difficult. She admitted it and she knows it. Josh immediately called her out on it and said she had already been difficult with him. I remember on the lie detector test date he simply said he didn't like it because he felt like they finally built some trust between the two of them and she got super defensive and in my eyes made matters worse, but what was great was that Josh didn't allow her to walk all over him. I think this will be good for Andi because I don't think she's ever really been with someone that would tell her "no" and that's not to say anything bad about Andi. Sometimes that's just the way it is and I do think Josh will be good for her in this regard.

When she was recapping her relationships she did say that Josh recognizes that she can be a diva and bratty and understands it and how he sees all of her. It's a good thing that Josh recognizes this, but it's also great he doesn't let her off the hook either.

ITA! I'm so glad that you pointed out the recap with her saying Josh sees all of her  (diva, bratty side etc.), because he does seem to get her and he seems to have a calming effect on her (the Andi whisperer someone mentioned). I felt that people were only pointing out her VO's about Nick seeing "every part of her" and it's obvious Josh does too.

I hope this will continue to be the case and Josh's innate desire to protect and care for her won't make him totally whipped. Part of the reason I can root for them is because he stands up to her and tells her no and brings her crazy down by not engaging in a power battle. I think she loves it too and hopefully they don't lose now that he loves her more than anything and she's the first priority, etc.

   

[flslp87]

Long time member/lurker and a poster once in a blue moon.  I'm Team Josh and read RS spoilers.  In my opinion, Andi's plot is similar to Ali. At the RC after HTD, Ali gave the 1st rose to Roberto, then gave the last rose to Roberto at the RC after the FD.  Same happened to the RC's of Andi during HTD & FD.  Andi's grilling Josh is similar to Ali questioning Roberto  & having doubts.  I also have a theory on who's getting eliminated next by the scene that they show with the credits.  Marcus was eliminated during RC of HTD and he was shown with Brian, Dylan during the credits on the episode before the HTD, scenes with Chris at the HTD was shown on that episode and he's eliminated at the FD RC.  At the last epi (FD), Nick was shown during the credits.  So, in my opinion he's F2.

Love your observations. Very interesting. Hope they are true this season.   

[GuardianAngel]

Long time member/lurker and a poster once in a blue moon.  I'm Team Josh and read RS spoilers.  In my opinion, Andi's plot is similar to Ali. At the RC after HTD, Ali gave the 1st rose to Roberto, then gave the last rose to Roberto at the RC after the FD.  Same happened to the RC's of Andi during HTD & FD.  Andi's grilling Josh is similar to Ali questioning Roberto  & having doubts.  I also have a theory on who's getting eliminated next by the scene that they show with the credits.  Marcus was eliminated during RC of HTD and he was shown with Brian, Dylan during the credits on the episode before the HTD, scenes with Chris at the HTD was shown on that episode and he's eliminated at the FD RC.  At the last epi (FD), Nick was shown during the credits.  So, in my opinion he's F2.

Welcome rinacabigas! I hope you post more. That's great sleuthing you have recapped there!   

[Bet2Win]

hey yall just remembered I had this saved from Andi's social media...
and Josh's seemingly sad social media is something I'm confused about though it may be anything -- my main argument isnt' that he's sad and depressed but more...an Over-the-moon in love AND engaged guy like him gets way too philosophical and contemplative by all his God's plan vs. plan of man and things you don't get vs. gratitude tweets...

And there's this...


so my alternative "love story" scenario taking these factors in along with the letter is....
well just maybe Andi changes her mind...

for me it seems WAY too easy for them to give this away in a preview so having a hard time believing it...and Andi is pretty stubborn and I don't think the connection with Josh would fizzle out that** quickly cos she's such a solid guy and awesome to be around...

Find it hard to imagine what could draw him away from Josh UNLESS her heart was already fallen for nick and that** I find to believe based on her interaction with Josh...unlesssss Josh messes up somehow....just my 2cent on the various scenarios...

It's not all that hard for me to believe that MeandI can't sustain a good relationship with Josh (or any guy) for 2 months, but Nick's tweets have been going downhill since the MTA filming imo. He favorited a pretty bad one. Maybe it was an accident, maybe not. The song "Shout" could easily appear as a shout out to her interview until you look closely at the lyrics.. and you know Nick would. "If I could change your mind.. I'd really love to break your heart."
http://www.metrolyrics.com/shout-lyrics-tears-for-fears.html
But do we even know that they are sending their own tweets? Supposedly Josh is sending those quotes, but we never saw a hint of that side of him. It seems pretty risky to allow them to be in charge of their own SM while the show is airing.

I disagree that Andi can't sustain a relationship for 2 months with Josh or any guy.  It has been 2 months and she is still with her final 1.  (Time will tell)  ;)  Anyway this quote was in reference to Eric's death and the bashing she was getting on SM.  Josh's Mom even favored it on her account.  

Catching up.

I hope this tweet isn't related to Eric ~ That would be pretty insensitive to tweet something that says "I'm alive".

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