Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #3

[Alanna]

I'm here too with you guys, Sophie and Pander. 99% sure it's what I think it will be, 1% of me thinks maybe, just mayyyybe Mamma Murray is a secret sadist for posting all those pics of Andi and Josh and it'll be Nick

Truthfully, I see Andi having good relationships with both Nick and Josh and loving them both.  I think she could be happy with either one.  I think I decided I like Nick better for her, because it got to torturous for me watching her question Josh.  It was like the pain of Emily constantly making Arie pay for doing nothing wrong.

Whoever F1 is, I hope they have a great relationship.  I also think F2 is going to be just fine.

The only reason that I can see Momma Murray being so happy and posting pics, is if Josh is the next bachelor.  It would be a good advertisement that Josh is ready and willing to fall in love, so come and get him girls.

I won't be shocked either way.

I don't agree because all the pics she's posting from the show include Andi. She's teasing Josh about not expressing his feeling enough for her, not being able to form sentences around her, Sabel being Josh's "other woman;" there is too much emphasis on Andi's presence for me to think it's to promote him for Bach. He would be Bach no matter what if he wasn't f1 imo.

[soccermom333]

I'm here too with you guys, Sophie and Pander. 99% sure it's what I think it will be, 1% of me thinks maybe, just mayyyybe Mamma Murray is a secret sadist for posting all those pics of Andi and Josh and it'll be Nick

Truthfully, I see Andi having good relationships with both Nick and Josh and loving them both.  I think she could be happy with either one.  I think I decided I like Nick better for her, because it got to torturous for me watching her question Josh.  It was like the pain of Emily constantly making Arie pay for doing nothing wrong.

Whoever F1 is, I hope they have a great relationship.  I also think F2 is going to be just fine.

The only reason that I can see Momma Murray being so happy and posting pics, is if Josh is the next bachelor.  It would be a good advertisement that Josh is ready and willing to fall in love, so come and get him girls.

I won't be shocked either way.

I don't agree because all the pics she's posting from the show include Andi. She's teasing Josh about not expressing his feeling enough for her, not being able to form sentences around her, Sabel being Josh's "other woman;" there is too much emphasis on Andi's presence for me to think it's to promote him for Bach. He would be Bach no matter what if he wasn't f1 imo.

I agree with you Alanna.  It is not just her promoting her son it is WHAT she is promoting.  Referencing  andi and alluding to the fact Josh is "with" her.  If Josh was going to be the next bachelor, he would need no one promoting him at all.


There is a high probability that Josh is final one. I give it a less than 1% chance he is not. I think you are good Sophie. ;)

[Hotmomma]

I'm here too with you guys, Sophie and Pander. 99% sure it's what I think it will be, 1% of me thinks maybe, just mayyyybe Mamma Murray is a secret sadist for posting all those pics of Andi and Josh and it'll be Nick

Truthfully, I see Andi having good relationships with both Nick and Josh and loving them both. I think she could be happy with either one. I think I decided I like Nick better for her, because it got to torturous for me watching her question Josh. It was like the pain of Emily constantly making Arie pay for doing nothing wrong.

Whoever F1 is, I hope they have a great relationship. I also think F2 is going to be just fine.

The only reason that I can see Momma Murray being so happy and posting pics, is if Josh is the next bachelor. It would be a good advertisement that Josh is ready and willing to fall in love, so come and get him girls.

I won't be shocked either way.

This is what gives me pause.
Andi is treating Josh like Emily did Arie and Nick like 1F ..almost the same story line! Now will it end the same way? I don't know.

[Di_ATL]

I'm here too with you guys, Sophie and Pander. 99% sure it's what I think it will be, 1% of me thinks maybe, just mayyyybe Mamma Murray is a secret sadist for posting all those pics of Andi and Josh and it'll be Nick

Truthfully, I see Andi having good relationships with both Nick and Josh and loving them both.  I think she could be happy with either one.  I think I decided I like Nick better for her, because it got to torturous for me watching her question Josh.  It was like the pain of Emily constantly making Arie pay for doing nothing wrong.

Whoever F1 is, I hope they have a great relationship.  I also think F2 is going to be just fine.

The only reason that I can see Momma Murray being so happy and posting pics, is if Josh is the next bachelor.  It would be a good advertisement that Josh is ready and willing to fall in love, so come and get him girls.

I won't be shocked either way.

This is what gives me pause.
Andi is treating Josh like Emily did Arie and Nick like 1F ..almost the same story line! Now will it end the same way? I don't know.

I have thought about this as well, the editing of Josh and Nick, much like Arie and Jef, but in this case I really feel like Andi went with what she knew in that was Josh, whereas Emily went with the unknown knowing if it didnt work out she would still be ok.
I think had Emily gone with Arie, the race care driver like her ex, me thinks she might have still be with him today, but i think Emily was to scared to go that route knowing that she had already lost her great love and father of her child. Funny thing her hubby reminds me so much of our Ryguy ( GA boy) from her season.  

[Bhaka]

This is what gives me pause.
Andi is treating Josh like Emily did Arie and Nick like 1F ..almost the same story line! Now will it end the same way? I don't know.

I think the major difference might be that Andi fell in love, whereas Emily did not. JMO

[Ash2214]

Well, from the new Facebook preview, it looks like the F2 guy wrote her a letter recently because it appears she gets the letter before the MTA.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBachelorette?fref=photo

Yikes.

[Alanna]

Well, from the new Facebook preview, it looks like the F2 guy wrote her a letter recently because it appears she gets the letter before the MTA.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBachelorette?fref=photo

Yikes.

I don't know what more there is to say in a letter after watching the show and following along on sm. Things are getting pretty clear here, no??

[Ash2214]

^ That's what I don't understand. I get having questions shortly after you return home from filming, but almost two months later after seeing her connection to her F1? I really don't get it. I would understand it more if her connection with Nick was way more obvious than hers was with Josh, but really? How could he think that after watching the show?

[stuckinsc]

Well, from the new Facebook preview, it looks like the F2 guy wrote her a letter recently because it appears she gets the letter before the MTA.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBachelorette?fref=photo

Yikes.

I don't know what more there is to say in a letter after watching the show and following along on sm. Things are getting pretty clear here, no??

First, I respect all opinions on who is or isn't F1 and stuff like that. We are all entitled to our opinion. I can truly see it either way.

I think if Josh is F1, I could see Nick writing a letter to Andi to apologize for the plane video. Not all may agree, but overall I think Nick is a classy guy and those were his private thoughts. If the video is real and Josh is F1, I can see Nick wanting to apologize for the video being out there.

You are welcome to disagree, this is just my take.

[foodie]

Well, from the new Facebook preview, it looks like the F2 guy wrote her a letter recently because it appears she gets the letter before the MTA.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBachelorette?fref=photo

Yikes.

I don't know what more there is to say in a letter after watching the show and following along on sm. Things are getting pretty clear here, no??

First, I respect all opinions on who is or isn't F1 and stuff like that.  We are all entitled to our opinion.  I can truly see it either way.

I think if Josh is F1, I could see Nick writing a letter to Andi to apologize for the plane video.  Not all may agree, but overall I think Nick is a classy guy and those were his private thoughts.  If the video is real and Josh is F1, I can see Nick wanting to apologize for the video being out there.

You are welcome to disagree, this is just my take.

I don't really see why ABC would want to announce that there was a video of Nick spoiling it and especially that the video came from RS so I think the letter from Nick would just be some type of closure

[Ash2214]

In my opinion, even in that letter, there is no way Nick or production will ever acknowledge that video because that will mean they are acknowledging RS and essentially having his name be a part of filming because it looks like we're going to see Andi read the letter. That's not happening in my opinion.

Either way, I'm just hoping production is making this far more dramatic than it really is.

[stuckinsc]

I don't know what more there is to say in a letter after watching the show and following along on sm. Things are getting pretty clear here, no??

First, I respect all opinions on who is or isn't F1 and stuff like that.  We are all entitled to our opinion.  I can truly see it either way.

I think if Josh is F1, I could see Nick writing a letter to Andi to apologize for the plane video.  Not all may agree, but overall I think Nick is a classy guy and those were his private thoughts.  If the video is real and Josh is F1, I can see Nick wanting to apologize for the video being out there.

You are welcome to disagree, this is just my take.

I don't really see why ABC would want to announce that there was a video of Nick spoiling it and especially that the video came from RS so I think the letter from Nick would just be some type of closure

The video had been mostly ignored in the media and is now coming up, IMO that would be because TPTB are prodding it being brought up.

If others prefer to think negatively about Nick, that is fine. I just think this is an obvious and plausible explanation.

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