Re: Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6

[luvlady345]

Didn't Dylan think that Josh was too close to his family or something like that, I don't put much stock into anyone's opinion ...... Josh didn't talk about his relationship with Andi IMO he probably talked about Aaron and his family a lot so that's Dylan's opinion that Josh will not be able to make Andi his priority....

[umngirl]

Dylan's allowed to have his own opinion about them lasting. He wouldn't be the first rejected from a season to think the lead and their F1 wouldn't last. And he won't be the last to think that.

[docnash14]

Didn't Dylan think that Josh was too close to his family or something like that, I don't put much stock into anyone's opinion ...... Josh didn't talk about his relationship with Andi IMO he probably talked about Aaron and his family a lot so that's Dylan's opinion that Josh will not be able to make Andi his priority....  

Yes, I believe Dylan recently gave an interview to a local paper in Boston. He said that while he didn't know the outcome he believed that Andi likely chose Josh and added that he didn't believe that it would last. He explained that in his opinion Andi needed to be priority and that he believed that would be difficult for Josh because of his commitment and devotion to his family. As much as I like Dylan, I believe Josh's mom over him when she said in her ITM that Andi would be his priority. And,indeed, Josh has already begun to demonstrate that including not being part of his family's festivities on Aaron's draft day.

[nannymargie]

Didn't Dylan think that Josh was too close to his family or something like that, I don't put much stock into anyone's opinion ...... Josh didn't talk about his relationship with Andi IMO he probably talked about Aaron and his family a lot so that's Dylan's opinion that Josh will not be able to make Andi his priority....  

Yes, I believe Dylan recently gave an interview to a local paper in Boston.  He said that while he didn't know the outcome he believed that Andi likely chose Josh and added that he didn't believe that it would last.  He explained that in his opinion Andi needed to be priority and that he believed that would be difficult for Josh because of his commitment and devotion to his family.  As much as I like Dylan, I believe Josh's mom over him when she said in her ITM that Andi would be his priority.  And,indeed, Josh has already begun to demonstrate that including not being part of his family's festivities on Aaron's draft day.

I totally agree with you Doc.

[bilolo]

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

It's his opinion like the many we have here and with the contestants (like Marcus who think they'd make a great couple), some think Andi is better with Nick and others with Josh but no one knows who will last and who will not (every couple has a chance) and i think the reason he gave has been dismissed by Josh being on the show instead of home right ? imo

[GuardianAngel]

I have to ask if Andi was so broken apart by her break up why go on the bachelor in the first place and for JPG at that, since he was announced so very early.  Then chose to the bachelorette.

Also I don't consider law school being grown up and out of college, it is really just an extension of college.  Same for most post graduate education, it is a bit of a holding pattern and not like everyday life.  

I don't think you have to have failed relationships to have a good quality relationship, but it can help you to get to know yourself better and to make sure what you want and not just to need to be with a person.

I am have no problem with Josh's time off, he was focused on other things, so this is not a knock on him.  I continue to be a Josh fan, and if he ends up happy with Andi, I will hope for the best for them.

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

IA with not having a problem with Josh not dating. That doesn't mean much to me. The older we get, the less time we want to spend on one night stands. (Certainly not speaking for myself ) I like both Josh and Nick.

Josh for me, was a bit to out there right from epi one. He knew she was the girl for him, without even knowing her. He seemed to say whatever he thought she wanted to hear. This made me question if he was in love with her, or the idea of being the F1 with the bachelorette. However, from what I see, he is a kind, caring guy, with a big heart. It appears he treats his ladies just fine, with all the touchy feely that goes on. He is a happy guy, which Andi for some reason is worried about that. (Is she going to tell him to stop being happy?) Why would she be worried that all the conversation or attention will be geared towards Aaron? Anyone would be happy for their future BIL or was drafted into the NFL. I would find it difficult if I was in a relationship with someone that didn't love my family and want to be part of them as much as I do.

I really wish them the best, if he is indeed the F1. They make a great looking couple. It's her I'm not so sure about. IMO she is a selfish TV wannabe star. Everything she says and does to me looks phoney.

I really don't think Josh or Nick are really her type. Both of them deserve a far more loving sweet caring lady who doesn't find it necessary to have a potty mouth. She will IMO walk all over them if they don't say or do as she pleases.

I apologize to those who love her, these are just my opinions, which started way back in epi one of JPG's season.

[docnash14]

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

It's his opinion like the many we have here and with the contestants (like Marcus who think they'd make a great couple), some think Andi is better with Nick and others with Josh but no one knows who will last and who will not (every couple has a chance) and i think the reason he gave has been dismissed by Josh being on the show instead of home right ? imo

I am not that surprised since for reasons I don't completely understand it appears that post-show Nick, Brian, Dylan and Chris have become the four amigos (which suggests to me that Nick is not the type who holds grudges or at the very least has a short memory and has forgotten that Brian called him a snake, pretty much said that he didn't trust him as far as he could throw him and doubted seriously that Nick even knew his last name. And Chris also called him some not so flattering names). I have no doubt that they have all talked about the outcome together and thus I suspect that Dylan is feeding off Nick's beliefs which sound very similar to Dylan's speak. (I just recounted in the finale episode thread some of Nick's thoughts that he reportedly has/had that were contained in the recent Us article.

[stuckinsc]

I have to ask if Andi was so broken apart by her break up why go on the bachelor in the first place and for JPG at that, since he was announced so very early.  Then chose to the bachelorette.

Also I don't consider law school being grown up and out of college, it is really just an extension of college.  Same for most post graduate education, it is a bit of a holding pattern and not like everyday life.  

I don't think you have to have failed relationships to have a good quality relationship, but it can help you to get to know yourself better and to make sure what you want and not just to need to be with a person.

I am have no problem with Josh's time off, he was focused on other things, so this is not a knock on him.  I continue to be a Josh fan, and if he ends up happy with Andi, I will hope for the best for them.

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

I don't think Dylan knows what he's talking about.  Wasn't Dylan friends with Nick?  That could be why he said that.  I give these 2 a very good chance of making it to the alter.

Dylan in the same article said that Chris and Brian were his good friends. Not Nick or Josh.

[stuckinsc]

I have to ask if Andi was so broken apart by her break up why go on the bachelor in the first place and for JPG at that, since he was announced so very early.  Then chose to the bachelorette.

Also I don't consider law school being grown up and out of college, it is really just an extension of college.  Same for most post graduate education, it is a bit of a holding pattern and not like everyday life.  

I don't think you have to have failed relationships to have a good quality relationship, but it can help you to get to know yourself better and to make sure what you want and not just to need to be with a person.

I am have no problem with Josh's time off, he was focused on other things, so this is not a knock on him.  I continue to be a Josh fan, and if he ends up happy with Andi, I will hope for the best for them.

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

IA with not having a problem with Josh not dating. That doesn't mean much to me. The older we get, the less time we want to spend on one night stands. (Certainly not speaking for myself ) I like both Josh and Nick.

Josh for me, was a bit to out there right from epi one. He knew she was the girl for him, without even knowing her. He seemed to say whatever he thought she wanted to hear. This made me question if he was in love with her, or the idea of being the F1 with the bachelorette. However, from what I see, he is a kind, caring guy, with a big heart. It appears he treats his ladies just fine, with all the touchy feely that goes on. He is a happy guy, which Andi for some reason is worried about that. (Is she going to tell him to stop being happy?) Why would she be worried that all the conversation or attention will be geared towards Aaron? Anyone would be happy for their future BIL or was drafted into the NFL. I would find it difficult if I was in a  relationship with someone that didn't love my family and want to be part of them as much as I do.

I really wish them the best, if he is indeed the F1. They make a great looking couple. It's her I'm not so sure about. IMO she is a selfish TV wannabe star. Everything she says and does to me looks phoney.

I really don't think Josh or Nick are really her type. Both of them deserve a far more loving sweet caring lady who doesn't find it necessary to have a potty mouth. She will IMO walk all over them if they don't say or do as she pleases.

I apologize to those who love her, these are just my opinions, which started way back in epi one of JPG's season.

GA we agree. I really Josh and Nick. MeAndI, I can totally do without her.

[cindebugg]

I have to ask if Andi was so broken apart by her break up why go on the bachelor in the first place and for JPG at that, since he was announced so very early.  Then chose to the bachelorette.

Also I don't consider law school being grown up and out of college, it is really just an extension of college.  Same for most post graduate education, it is a bit of a holding pattern and not like everyday life.  

I don't think you have to have failed relationships to have a good quality relationship, but it can help you to get to know yourself better and to make sure what you want and not just to need to be with a person.

I am have no problem with Josh's time off, he was focused on other things, so this is not a knock on him.  I continue to be a Josh fan, and if he ends up happy with Andi, I will hope for the best for them.

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

IA with not having a problem with Josh not dating. That doesn't mean much to me. The older we get, the less time we want to spend on one night stands. (Certainly not speaking for myself ) I like both Josh and Nick.

Josh for me, was a bit to out there right from epi one. He knew she was the girl for him, without even knowing her. He seemed to say whatever he thought she wanted to hear. This made me question if he was in love with her, or the idea of being the F1 with the bachelorette. However, from what I see, he is a kind, caring guy, with a big heart. It appears he treats his ladies just fine, with all the touchy feely that goes on. He is a happy guy, which Andi for some reason is worried about that. (Is she going to tell him to stop being happy?) Why would she be worried that all the conversation or attention will be geared towards Aaron? Anyone would be happy for their future BIL or was drafted into the NFL. I would find it difficult if I was in a  relationship with someone that didn't love my family and want to be part of them as much as I do.

I really wish them the best, if he is indeed the F1. They make a great looking couple. It's her I'm not so sure about. IMO she is a selfish TV wannabe star. Everything she says and does to me looks phoney.

I really don't think Josh or Nick are really her type. Both of them deserve a far more loving sweet caring lady who doesn't find it necessary to have a potty mouth. She will IMO walk all over them if they don't say or do as she pleases.

I apologize to those who love her, these are just my opinions, which started way back in epi one of JPG's season.

 
Except when he didn't.  He didn't have a problem telling her he felt judged by her.  He didn't beat around the bush about the lie detector test and he didn't let her push him into saying ILY until he was ready. I believe he was the last guy to say so.   He didn't have a problem correcting her "I can be difficult" to "You've already been difficult" and he wasn't afraid to list "swearing too much" as an error on her baseball card.

For me, Nick was the guy with the the most serious red flags. Rushed relationships, broken engagement, over analyzes, talks too much, doesn't play well with others and Andi felt like she wasn't always getting the entire story from him about the guys and about his past relationships.

I wasn't a big fan of Andi's during JPG season but IMO she's been one of the best leads for the franchise.    If she is able to parlay her law degree into a TV gig more power to her.  Josh and Aaron can double date with their TV star girlfriends.

[Guest]

I have to ask if Andi was so broken apart by her break up why go on the bachelor in the first place and for JPG at that, since he was announced so very early.  Then chose to the bachelorette.

Also I don't consider law school being grown up and out of college, it is really just an extension of college.   for most post graduate education, it is a bit of a holding pattern and not like everyday life.  

I don't think you have to have failed relationships to have a good quality relationship, but it can help you to get to know yourself better and to make sure what you want and not just to need to be with a person.

I am have no problem with Josh's time off, he was focused on other things, so this is not a knock on him.  I continue to be a Josh fan, and if he ends up happy with Andi, I will hope for the best for them.

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

I don't think Dylan knows what he's talking about.  Wasn't Dylan friends with Nick?  That could be why he said that.  I give these 2 a very good chance of making it to the alter.

Dylan in the same article said that Chris and Brian were his good friends.  Not Nick or Josh.

I never went to law school but I went to grad school. I agree that many opt to pursue higher education after college in order to have an edge in the job market. In economic terms this is called hidden unemployment. However, I have much admiration for anyone who is able to complete graduate studies and especially those who finish a law degree and pass the bar exam. It is not only a testament to their academic prowess but also their discipline and commitment to long hours of reading, research, and analysis. Part of their academic requirement in law school is to work as interns in law firms, non -profit organizations, and government offices for 3-6 months.

[Relalou]

I have to ask if Andi was so broken apart by her break up why go on the bachelor in the first place and for JPG at that, since he was announced so very early.  Then chose to the bachelorette.

Also I don't consider law school being grown up and out of college, it is really just an extension of college.  Same for most post graduate education, it is a bit of a holding pattern and not like everyday life.  

I don't think you have to have failed relationships to have a good quality relationship, but it can help you to get to know yourself better and to make sure what you want and not just to need to be with a person.

I am have no problem with Josh's time off, he was focused on other things, so this is not a knock on him.  I continue to be a Josh fan, and if he ends up happy with Andi, I will hope for the best for them.

What do you all think of Dylan saying he didn't think that Josh and Andi would last?

IA with not having a problem with Josh not dating. That doesn't mean much to me. The older we get, the less time we want to spend on one night stands. (Certainly not speaking for myself ) I like both Josh and Nick.

Josh for me, was a bit to out there right from epi one. He knew she was the girl for him, without even knowing her. He seemed to say whatever he thought she wanted to hear. This made me question if he was in love with her, or the idea of being the F1 with the bachelorette. However, from what I see, he is a kind, caring guy, with a big heart. It appears he treats his ladies just fine, with all the touchy feely that goes on. He is a happy guy, which Andi for some reason is worried about that. (Is she going to tell him to stop being happy?) Why would she be worried that all the conversation or attention will be geared towards Aaron? Anyone would be happy for their future BIL or was drafted into the NFL. I would find it difficult if I was in a  relationship with someone that didn't love my family and want to be part of them as much as I do.

I really wish them the best, if he is indeed the F1. They make a great looking couple. It's her I'm not so sure about. IMO she is a selfish TV wannabe star. Everything she says and does to me looks phoney.

I really don't think Josh or Nick are really her type. Both of them deserve a far more loving sweet caring lady who doesn't find it necessary to have a potty mouth. She will IMO walk all over them if they don't say or do as she pleases.

I apologize to those who love her, these are just my opinions, which started way back in epi one of JPG's season.

 
Except when he didn't.  He didn't have a problem telling her he felt judged by her.  He didn't beat around the bush about the lie detector test and he didn't let her push him into saying ILY until he was ready. I believe he was the last guy to say so.   He didn't have a problem correcting her "I can be difficult" to "You've already been difficult" and he wasn't afraid to list "swearing too much" as an error on her baseball card.

For me, Nick was the guy with the the most serious red flags. Rushed relationships, broken engagement, over analyzes, talks too much, doesn't play well with others and Andi felt like she wasn't always getting the entire story from him about the guys and about his past relationships.

I wasn't a big fan of Andi's during JPG season but IMO she's been one of the best leads for the franchise.    If she is able to parlay her law degree into a TV gig more power to her.  Josh and Aaron can double date with their TV star girlfriends.

ITA with this last post. Josh has been anything but a "yes man". Yes, he is easy going and yes he seemed to have been attracted to what he knew of Andi before meeting her (but then aren't we also expressing our interest in and support for/love for Nick or Josh or Chris or Marcus or… before we have met them. Can't judge him for that!). Andi is a strong, accomplished woman who wants a strong, confident man to both support her and allow her to lean into him. Josh provides that for her and pushes her too (for example, he talked her into dancing in public - something she says she can't do). I like the idea of them as a couple and think that they stand a good shot.

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