Re: Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6

[Piper61]

^^^I agree with both of you, cindebugg and Relalou.

I liked Andi okay on JPG's season but have come to really love her as the lead. I think she is now my favorite lead, and her and Josh have surpassed my love of JP and Ashley as my favorite Bach couple. I am really looking forward to their SM once back home. I hope they are equally and more adorable in that aspect than Jash.

[Alanna]

^^^I agree with both of you, cindebugg and Relalou.  

I liked Andi okay on JPG's season but have come to really love her as the lead.  I think she is now my favorite lead, and her and Josh have surpassed my love of JP and Ashley as my favorite Bach couple.  I am really looking forward to their SM once back home.  I hope they are equally and more adorable in that aspect than Jash.

I didn't think any couple would ever equal Jash but then we met Jodi! I just love that there was no Bentley or distractions this season for her, the only issue was if he's too perfect to be real. That's a pretty good deal, Josh must feel pretty awesome about how this all went down IMO.

[DKWillis]

lA with GuardianAngel  and all ^^but been keeping reserved on my opinions re:Andi afraid of being judged but JMHO here.. 1)  l don't like potty mouths for guys let alone females it a turn off to me lm forever correcting my oldest when it slips and he's 34,  2) It seems she is somewhat of a controller that she wears the pants,  3) She seems to want the best of both worlds- take the good qualities from Nick and the good from Josh and create her own F1 from them you get a NicOsh. l really do feel sorry for both Nick and Josh.

Is she really there for the right resaon to find love?  l get the impression sometimes that she is there for the experience (dating 19 ? guys at once), travelling, possibly better her career and IF she falls for 1 of them so let it be for the right resaon.  Like l said these too are JMO

[Piper61]

^^^I agree with both of you, cindebugg and Relalou.  

I liked Andi okay on JPG's season but have come to really love her as the lead.  I think she is now my favorite lead, and her and Josh have surpassed my love of JP and Ashley as my favorite Bach couple.  I am really looking forward to their SM once back home.  I hope they are equally and more adorable in that aspect than Jash.

I didn't think any couple would ever equal Jash but then we met Jodi! I just love that there was no Bentley or distractions this season for her, the only issue was if he's too perfect to be real. That's a pretty good deal, Josh must feel pretty awesome about how this all went down IMO.

   Josh found out just how feisty she could be, and he's all good, all in for it!  :cutesmile!: 

[mtnlvr55]

^^^I agree with both of you, cindebugg and Relalou.  

I liked Andi okay on JPG's season but have come to really love her as the lead.  I think she is now my favorite lead, and her and Josh have surpassed my love of JP and Ashley as my favorite Bach couple.  I am really looking forward to their SM once back home.  I hope they are equally and more adorable in that aspect than Jash.

I didn't think any couple would ever equal Jash but then we met Jodi! I just love that there was no Bentley or distractions this season for her, the only issue was if he's too perfect to be real. That's a pretty good deal, Josh must feel pretty awesome about how this all went down IMO.

    Josh found out just how feisty she could be, and he's all good, all in for it!   :cutesmile!: 

I don't know Josh: only the one we see on TV, but it appears that he is used to a strong woman in his mother (and possibly his sister too) and it is what he is used to and possibly likes. They say guys frequently marry their mother and it sure looks like Josh has picked a woman that LOOKS just like his mother and possible is like her in personality too.

[atem]

You know how many lawyers this country has? Too many!  Not enough in science and engineering. Sorry, I'm not that impressed with her education as Ashlee has just an impressive education to me.  

Andi had way less of circumstances other leads have had (I think all the male leads pretty much sucked) and she was over the top and self centered when Eric gave her his opinion.

Josh is a competitive guy and he wanted to win. That's what this show is about! He was all over her (like she wants) from day one and has a similar background.

[Piper61]

I didn't think any couple would ever equal Jash but then we met Jodi! I just love that there was no Bentley or distractions this season for her, the only issue was if he's too perfect to be real. That's a pretty good deal, Josh must feel pretty awesome about how this all went down IMO.

    Josh found out just how feisty she could be, and he's all good, all in for it!   :cutesmile!: 

I don't know Josh: only the one we see on TV, but it appears that he is used to a strong woman in his mother (and possibly his sister too) and it is what he is used to and possibly likes. They say guys frequently marry their mother and it sure looks like Josh has picked a woman that LOOKS just like his mother and possible is like her in personality too.

I think this is probably true, just like I think he probably models himself after his dad in how he treats the woman he is in love with.

[sbolduc]

I have mixed emotions with this season to be honest. I didn't know much about Andi going in as I stopped watching JPG after the first episode last season.

When I found out the contestants I will admit I was hoping she wouldn't pick Josh because I thought it was too easy, I like when the lead surprises me.

Turns out, I really like Josh, I love what I read about him in regards to his committment to his family, something that I truly respect. I do agree with others that he was too much too soon, I think he was already in love with the idea of Andi before he came on the show so I really hope he has fallen in love with Andi and not just the idea of her. He may not be my personal pick, but I think he is a great genuine guy who will make some girl (maybe Andi) really happy.

I actually don't mind Andi that much either, I think she has done a good job as a lead and has picked two great guys as her final 2.

I am just not convinced that she was fully ready to be married when she came on the show. I remember the first episode and she said that she just wanted to have fun, that this group of guys she thought would be fun, she wanted to find a partner to be fun with...I guess that adds stock to picking Josh, as he is what she considers fun. But I just think there is a lot more to finding a partner than someone who is fun, because there are a lot of times where the relationship is going to be as far from fun as possible.

I really believe Andi needs a mix of a Josh and a Nick. I think she needs the fun-loving goofy personality/chemistry of a Josh and the intellectual/mental connection of a Nick. JMHO.

[GuardianAngel]

lA with GuardianAngel  and all ^^but been keeping reserved on my opinions re:Andi afraid of being judged but JMHO here.. 1)  l don't like potty mouths for guys let alone females it a turn off to me lm forever correcting my oldest when it slips and he's 34,  2) It seems she is somewhat of a controller that she wears the pants,  3) She seems to want the best of both worlds- take the good qualities from Nick and the good from Josh and create her own F1 from them you get a NicOsh. l really do feel sorry for both Nick and Josh.

Is she really there for the right resaon to find love?  l get the impression sometimes that she is there for the experience (dating 19 ? guys at once), travelling, possibly better her career and IF she falls for 1 of them so let it be for the right resaon.  Like l said these too are JMO

I don't like potty mouth either. I can't see potty mouth being acceptable in the Murray household. When one is used to swearing, it's difficult to not let it slip out. I can't see Josh being that way either. Like I posted a few times, I just think he deserves someone better than Andi who is unselfish and giving.

Diva's aren't familiar with being unselfish and giving. IMO

[stuckinsc]

You know how many lawyers this country has? Too many!  Not enough in science and engineering. Sorry, I'm not that impressed with her education as Ashlee has just an impressive education to me.  

Andi had way less of circumstances other leads have had (I think all the male leads pretty much sucked) and she was over the top and self centered when Eric gave her his opinion.

Josh is a competitive guy and he wanted to win.  That's what this show is about!  He was all over her (like she wants) from day one and has a similar background.  

I think you meant Ashley Rosenbaum.  Dental school is a fairly grueling four years, with many hours of dental type volunteering necessary before you are even admitted.  Our dental students complete a full gross anatomy course, with a semester long head and neck specialty gross anatomy.  They then spend endless hours in clinic caring for actual patients all while taking board exams through their second, third and fourth years.  It is pretty intense.  Our dental students are also required to do community service each year as well, and are expected to be involved in professional dental organizations as well as campus outreach.  Many like Ashley follow this up with a fairly competitive residency.  So I find Ashley's accomplishment a little more impressive than Andi's.  I also have many friends who have gone to law school and passed the bar as well.  It is not easy, but it doesn't compare to the time and levels of effort I have seen our dental students put in.

I am experienced with this as I have been a teaching assistant for medical students in histology and gross anatomy, as well as teaching gross anatomy lectures for occupational and physical therapy students and physician assistant students.  I have worked closely in volunteer efforts and campus leadership with dental, nursing and other allied health students.  Most require a lot of work and many hours of commitment.  I was shocked when Emily O'Brien was a contestant on Ben's season.  I guess her mentor let her take a leave of absence while she wrote her dissertation, but it is not normal in anyway.  

Andi's achievements are good, but not anymore impressive then most of the people I meet on an everyday basis here at the school I am at.

If Josh is happy with Andi great, if he is F2, I think he will be a great bachelor and if not, we have tons of fabulous, smart and non-diva women that he may be interested in now that he is open to dating and he doesn't feel like he has to give his all to caring for his family.

[soccermom333]

You know how many lawyers this country has? Too many!  Not enough in science and engineering. Sorry, I'm not that impressed with her education as Ashlee has just an impressive education to me.  

Andi had way less of circumstances other leads have had (I think all the male leads pretty much sucked) and she was over the top and self centered when Eric gave her his opinion.

Josh is a competitive guy and he wanted to win.  That's what this show is about!  He was all over her (like she wants) from day one and has a similar background.  

I think you meant Ashley Rosenbaum.  Dental school is a fairly grueling four years, with many hours of dental type volunteering necessary before you are even admitted.  Our dental students complete a full gross anatomy course, with a semester long head and neck specialty gross anatomy.  They then spend endless hours in clinic caring for actual patients all while taking board exams through their second, third and fourth years.  It is pretty intense.  Our dental students are also required to do community service each year as well, and are expected to be involved in professional dental organizations as well as campus outreach.  Many like Ashley follow this up with a fairly competitive residency.  So I find Ashley's accomplishment a little more impressive than Andi's.  I also have many friends who have gone to law school and passed the bar as well.  It is not easy, but it doesn't compare to the time and levels of effort I have seen our dental students put in.

I am experienced with this as I have been a teaching assistant for medical students in histology and gross anatomy, as well as teaching gross anatomy lectures for occupational and physical therapy students and physician assistant students.  I have worked closely in volunteer efforts and campus leadership with dental, nursing and other allied health students.  Most require a lot of work and many hours of commitment.  I was shocked when Emily O'Brien was a contestant on Ben's season.  I guess her mentor let her take a leave of absence while she wrote her dissertation, but it is not normal in anyway.  

Andi's achievements are good, but not anymore impressive then most of the people I meet on an everyday basis here at the school I am at.

If Josh is happy with Andi great, if he is F2, I think he will be a great bachelor and if not, we have tons of fabulous, smart and non-diva women that he may be interested in now that he is open to dating and he doesn't feel like he has to give his all to caring for his family.

I disagree. Josh was there for Andi and if he didn't "feel" it with her he would have left. It was not just about winning with him. IMHO Heck they all are competitive but when it comes down to it you can't fake the chemistry or emotion. Time will tell with andi and Josh but seems like they are doing just fine. IMHO of course! ;)

[stuckinsc]

You know how many lawyers this country has? Too many!  Not enough in science and engineering. Sorry, I'm not that impressed with her education as Ashlee has just an impressive education to me.  

Andi had way less of circumstances other leads have had (I think all the male leads pretty much sucked) and she was over the top and self centered when Eric gave her his opinion.

Josh is a competitive guy and he wanted to win.  That's what this show is about!  He was all over her (like she wants) from day one and has a similar background.  

I think you meant Ashley Rosenbaum.  Dental school is a fairly grueling four years, with many hours of dental type volunteering necessary before you are even admitted.  Our dental students complete a full gross anatomy course, with a semester long head and neck specialty gross anatomy.  They then spend endless hours in clinic caring for actual patients all while taking board exams through their second, third and fourth years.  It is pretty intense.  Our dental students are also required to do community service each year as well, and are expected to be involved in professional dental organizations as well as campus outreach.  Many like Ashley follow this up with a fairly competitive residency.  So I find Ashley's accomplishment a little more impressive than Andi's.  I also have many friends who have gone to law school and passed the bar as well.  It is not easy, but it doesn't compare to the time and levels of effort I have seen our dental students put in.

I am experienced with this as I have been a teaching assistant for medical students in histology and gross anatomy, as well as teaching gross anatomy lectures for occupational and physical therapy students and physician assistant students.  I have worked closely in volunteer efforts and campus leadership with dental, nursing and other allied health students.  Most require a lot of work and many hours of commitment.  I was shocked when Emily O'Brien was a contestant on Ben's season.  I guess her mentor let her take a leave of absence while she wrote her dissertation, but it is not normal in anyway.  

Andi's achievements are good, but not anymore impressive then most of the people I meet on an everyday basis here at the school I am at.

If Josh is happy with Andi great, if he is F2, I think he will be a great bachelor and if not, we have tons of fabulous, smart and non-diva women that he may be interested in now that he is open to dating and he doesn't feel like he has to give his all to caring for his family.

I disagree.  Josh was there for Andi and if he didn't "feel" it with her he would have left.  It was not just about winning with him.  IMHO  Heck they all are competitive but when it comes down to it you can't fake the chemistry or emotion.  Time will tell with andi and Josh but seems like they are doing just fine.    IMHO of course!  ;)

I didn't say Josh wasn't there for Andi. If anything I believe I was one of the people question if Andi was good enough for Josh with the way she treated him. But if she doesn't chose him, he will be fine, just as almost every F2 to come out of this franchise has been fine.

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