Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - MTP-LCD-FRC- July 28/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

docnash14 wrote:

Glow worm wrote:

nutty1 wrote:Here is a good picture of the couch when Andi is crying, from page 11 of the screencap thread…..but which picture is Nick's LCD? And would she let him go on the LCD or the morning of? And if the morning of, would it matter if the couches matched, because the LCD isn't where he stays, correct?

Yes, it matters because the evening portion of the LCD is always held in the house where the guy lives. We can se his couch on the LCD and it matches the one she is crying on. So my take on all of this is that she goes to Nick before the LRC to say goodbye and spare him the embarrassment of being rejected at the proposal. It's the best she could do. It must be very hard to send someone home at this stage, but I love when they let the F2 go before the proposal.   JMHO.

This makes sense to me especially in light of the preview released on Hulu.  If Hy gave Andi the heads up that Nick, if in fact Nick  is the F2, planned to propose to her, I think  she would want to prevent him from the humiliation of coming to the FRC ala Ben.  As Steel and I have discussed previously, this is very much in keeping with what Andi has done throughout the season and which she as a matter of fact attested to at the MTA.

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:

Jeepers wrote:So .. In essence .. Him showing up the weekend of MTA filming .. A last shot at trying to see her .. But ended up only able to get a note to her... Seems very logical.

No, I respectfully disagree.  By this time he has seen with his own eyes the connection she had with Josh.  Doubt he would be fooled by the ramblings of TPTB at this time.  At least I hope so.  During the show or right after I get it, but not right before the taping of MTA.  No way.  IMO ;)

I actually want to respectfully disagree with you.

I am not a fan of either of the possible final couples, but am a fan of both of the final two men.  I began this season thinking that Josh and Andi would be perfect for each other, but her behavior around Josh killed it for me.  I wanted better for him.  

I have seen her softer and nicer with Nick than with Josh.  She was soft on the FD with Josh, but even then she had her little, you want me even if I am a brat or a diva.  And yes Josh does, so if he is indeed F1, good for him, he knows what he is getting into.

With Nick I have seen Andi work to get to know the real Nick and open him up to the process.  I prefer to give Andi the benefit of the doubt that she put that effort into Nick because she cared for him, not just to get the most ILYs possible.

There are two very interesting while different relationships being shown on the show right now.  If fans of either couple can take of their rose colored fan glasses they can see both, I know I have, even Alana has said that she sees it too.  Though, she unlike me loves that Josh accepts Andi for her diva quirks and I don't.  

I appreciate those who take the time to try to see both relationships, because they were both there.  I actually think the fact that she had such great relationships with both the final two makes her choice of the F1 that much stronger.  He wasn't a default or better than nothing.  In fact, he was so great, that it made her able to turn her back on another strong relationship to chose him.  I huge compliment in my opinion.  

That is why I hope that the F2 doesn't come back and ask for a second chance.  I think Andi has made her choice and will not change her mind.  I actually will be sad for her if she has to let down the F2 twice.  I am sure it wasn't easy the first time and I can actually understand if she is frustrated and gets annoyed having to do it a second time.

I will say, it is hard as a Nick fan, because the majority of posts seem to state as fact that Josh was F1 and he and Andi are a great and happy couple.  While I agree the majority of spoilers do in fact support this, until we watch the finale on July 28th, this is still supposition.  It is not fact.  If it becomes fact on July 28th, I will be happy for all that got the ending they wanted and hope the best for the happy couple, but it would be great to not have to have it stated as fact until it does become fact.

stuckinsc wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:

Jeepers wrote:So .. In essence .. Him showing up the weekend of MTA filming .. A last shot at trying to see her .. But ended up only able to get a note to her... Seems very logical.

No, I respectfully disagree.  By this time he has seen with his own eyes the connection she had with Josh.  Doubt he would be fooled by the ramblings of TPTB at this time.  At least I hope so.  During the show or right after I get it, but not right before the taping of MTA.  No way.  IMO ;)

I actually want to respectfully disagree with you.

I am not a fan of either of the possible final couples, but am a fan of both of the final two men.  I began this season thinking that Josh and Andi would be perfect for each other, but her behavior around Josh killed it for me.  I wanted better for him.  

I have seen her softer and nicer with Nick than with Josh.  She was soft on the FD with Josh, but even then she had her little, you want me even if I am a brat or a diva.  And yes Josh does, so if he is indeed F1, good for him, he knows what he is getting into.

With Nick I have seen Andi work to get to know the real Nick and open him up to the process.  I prefer to give Andi the benefit of the doubt that she put that effort into Nick because she cared for him, not just to get the most ILYs possible.

There are two very interesting while different relationships being shown on the show right now.  If fans of either couple can take of their rose colored fan glasses they can see both, I know I have, even Alana has said that she sees it too.  Though, she unlike me loves that Josh accepts Andi for her diva quirks and I don't.  

I appreciate those who take the time to try to see both relationships, because they were both there.  I actually think the fact that she had such great relationships with both the final two makes her choice of the F1 that much stronger.  He wasn't a default or better than nothing.  In fact, he was so great, that it made her able to turn her back on another strong relationship to chose him.  I huge compliment in my opinion.  

That is why I hope that the F2 doesn't come back and ask for a second chance.  I think Andi has made her choice and will not change her mind.  I actually will be sad for her if she has to let down the F2 twice.  I am sure it wasn't easy the first time and I can actually understand if she is frustrated and gets annoyed having to do it a second time.

I will say, it is hard as a Nick fan, because the majority of posts seem to state as fact that Josh was F1 and he and Andi are a great and happy couple.  While I agree the majority of spoilers do in fact support this, until we watch the finale on July 28th, this is still supposition.  It is not fact.  If it becomes fact on July 28th, I will be happy for all that got the ending they wanted and hope the best for the happy couple, but it would be great to not have to have it stated as fact until it does become fact.

Alanna wrote:

docnash14 wrote:

Glow worm wrote:

Yes, it matters because the evening portion of the LCD is always held in the house where the guy lives. We can se his couch on the LCD and it matches the one she is crying on. So my take on all of this is that she goes to Nick before the LRC to say goodbye and spare him the embarrassment of being rejected at the proposal. It's the best she could do. It must be very hard to send someone home at this stage, but I love when they let the F2 go before the proposal.   JMHO.

This makes sense to me especially in light of the preview released on Hulu.  If Hy gave Andi the heads up that Nick, if in fact Nick  is the F2, planned to propose to her, I think  she would want to prevent him from the humiliation of coming to the FRC ala Ben.  As Steel and I have discussed previously, this is very much in keeping with what Andi has done throughout the season and which she as a matter of fact attested to at the MTA.

I'm so cynical these days, the moment she started saying that at the mta- letting them go the moment she knew it wasn't right, I had a flash forward of her saying that at the atfr to Nick next week. It was also interesting how she was so shut down with Marcus and Chris. I think Nick might be out of luck if he's expecting anything real in terms of answers or clarity next week, but I think he's probably over the whole thing regardless of any letter. Not to mention, the letter may be more borderline cringeworthy poetry from Josh anyway.

IT’S ONE OF THE MOST ROMANTIC AND DRAMATIC NIGHTS EVER ON ABC, ON THE THREE-HOUR LIVE SEASON FINALE EVENT OF “THE BACHELORETTE,” MONDAY, JULY 28







And Immediately Following the Exciting Season Finale,

Andi, Josh and Nick Look Back at the Emotional Ending to

Their Journey to Find Love, LIVE, on “The Bachelor: After the Final Rose”



“Episode 1010 --Season Finale – After Andi’s dramatic breakup with Juan Pablo last season, she refused to give up on her search for her one great love. After surviving shocking twists and turns and a journey filled with laughter, tears and love, Andi narrowed down the 25 bachelors to two fabulous guys – Josh and Nick. Josh is the type of man Andi has always dated in the past – handsome, athletic and playful – but Andi is plagued with a nagging doubt that he may be too good to be true. Her relationship with Nick is undeniably passionate and filled with an intensity she has never known, but she worries that it may be overwhelming. In this week’s dramatic conclusion, Andi is absolutely torn between the two men and can envision a future with both, but time is running out, on the Season Finale of “The Bachelorette,” airing MONDAY, JULY 28 (8:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.



Then, emotions run high as Andi sits down with Chris Harrison, live, to talk about her two final bachelors from this season – Josh and Nick. She will take viewers back to those final days in in the Dominican Republic when she needed to make her heart-wrenching decision. Both men will return to sit with Andi and discuss the shocking outcome of the show and to discuss their relationships. It’s the emotional ending to Andi’s heartfelt journey to find true love, on “The Bachelorette: After the Final Rose,” MONDAY, JULY 28 (10:01-11:00 p.m., ET).



Andi introduces both men to her family for an important test. Family is extremely crucial to both bachelors, as well as Andi, so it is essential that these meetings with Andi’s family go well. Who will make a lasting impression?



The family is first introduced to Nick who is determined to ask Andi’s father for permission to marry his daughter. But things get off to a shaky start when the usually confident bachelor is almost tongue-tied when he faces his potential in-laws. Will he be able to convince them that he is the only man for Andi?



Josh is next, but will his quick wit and easygoing charm raise a red flag rather than win over Andi’s family? Andi’s dad is right on target when he says that Josh is the kind of guy Andi falls for but never settles down with. Can Josh win their approval and prove to them he is ready to marry their daughter?



Andi has important last dates with both men. She explores the coast of the beautiful Dominican Republic with Josh from the deck of a sailboat. Later, things turn serious as questions arise about the possibility of spending a life together, and he gives her a heartfelt gift. Will Josh be the one to win Andi’s heart or will her lingering doubts push her into Nick’s arms?



Andi and Nick go off-roading and wind up at a secret lagoon for a private swim. That evening, their passion heats up as the couple realizes their chemistry is undeniable. Nick gives Andi a special gift as well that sums up their relationship and his true intentions. Is their special connection enough to carry Nick to the altar?



The final days of Andi’s journey are filled with questions. Then, in a surprising, explosive ending, Andi must do the hardest thing she has ever done. Will her trip of self-discovery end in an engagement or she headed for heartbreak?



The two remaining men are:

Josh M., 29, a former professional baseball player from Atlanta, GA

Nick V., 33, a software sales executive from Chicago, IL

Hotmomma wrote:It sure sounds pro Nick!
He asks Hy for permission will it take him to the alter..

Eviebloom wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:It sure sounds pro Nick!
He asks Hy for permission will it take him to the alter..

Did I miss something from the above article. Where did you read that Josh did not ask for permission?

Hotmomma wrote:

Eviebloom wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:It sure sounds pro Nick!
He asks Hy for permission will it take him to the alter..

Did I miss something from the above article.  Where did you read that Josh did not ask for permission?  

It just doesn't say that he asked..he probably did.