Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - MTP-LCD-FRC- July 28/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Jeepers wrote:

jlccaz wrote:Two words on nick.  Paid talent.  His mom was sincere.  But to me,   Nick is a fakey faker at this point. Months have passed. He wants revenge against her.  He is no gentleman.  And he's been feeding the tabloids or authorized it. He went way down in my book just now.  There's time to talk off camera.  That was personal.  

Also with Nick stalking her and all this side drama post filming I now understand why the family of Josh has been so vocal.  They believe in the couple and there have been producer driven antics and BS and meddling post filming,m they are protecting josh.  Good for them.  

Can I frame this post!!!!!

Yes!!!

And, this is my official first post on the spoiled side.

chloep wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:I totally felt for him. Completely. You can tell he was genuinely heartbroken. But saying he had sex with Andi on live television knowing millions are watching, including their families along with Josh's. That was nasty. In more ways than one.

Having sex with the guy you claimed NEVER loved and then getting engaged to the other guy is NOT nasty? I personally think it's disgusting. Josh SHOULD know about the fact that 2 days before she slept with him, she spread her legs for Nick too.  Nick was trying to take the high-road. Andi was being her usual RBF.

Stating that he had sex with Andi in the fantasy suite on live television knowing millions are watching including Andi's family, his own family and Josh's family? That's nasty to me. He didn't need to declare it.

aglaea wrote:

Max64 wrote:I don't blame Nick one bit for saying what he did to her!!  If she had something "greater" with Josh, she had no business sleeping with Nick, none!  And she's spouting off on how she loved Josh from night one!  Chloep, you are right she was cold, and showed no emotion towards Nick... I hope Josh knows what's he's in for.  

He just wanted the answer to his question and everyone has the right to have some closure. He had tried repeatedly to have an honest conversation with Andi prior to the public forum tonight.  I cannot imagine how hard it was to live with what he believed they shared.  It is just heartless to have denied him his answers for so long and it was obviously excruciating for him tonight.

I agree. It would have taken her 5 minutes to tell him to buzz off and stop asking because she was over it and wasn't going to change her mind.

I can't blame him for wanting some answers/closure, especially if he's been dwelling on it for the past two months and watching their time together back every Monday night. I would have a ton of questions! 

I think more leads should get called out on their actions. Sure they are the lead, but love is a two way street which is what the lead is expecting at the end of it. They should have had the 4.5 women Blob slept with come back to confront him at his ATFR.   

Then again, I felt bad for Clare last season. Poor lady got run over by the bus so many times she probably has permanent tire marks on her back.

Lesson learned to all future contestants: you never want to be the F2.

GuardianAngel wrote:they wanted to keep it a secret?  

Thing about this is on the unspoiled side we had no idea and I followed Josh and Andi all season. I think they spoiled it only if you were looking for it. Over 7M+ viewers likely had no clue except by watching the show. The last two weeks we started sleuthing twitter and while we were still not 100% sure it was filled with clues that I didn't know existed until I started looking for them.

alwaystulips wrote:

Jeepers wrote:

jlccaz wrote:Two words on nick.  Paid talent.  His mom was sincere.  But to me,   Nick is a fakey faker at this point. Months have passed. He wants revenge against her.  He is no gentleman.  And he's been feeding the tabloids or authorized it. He went way down in my book just now.  There's time to talk off camera.  That was personal.  

Also with Nick stalking her and all this side drama post filming I now understand why the family of Josh has been so vocal.  They believe in the couple and there have been producer driven antics and BS and meddling post filming,m they are protecting josh.  Good for them.  

Can I frame this post!!!!!

Yes!!!

And, this is my official first post on the spoiled side.

Agree, great post.

Ash2214 wrote:

chloep wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:I totally felt for him. Completely. You can tell he was genuinely heartbroken. But saying he had sex with Andi on live television knowing millions are watching, including their families along with Josh's. That was nasty. In more ways than one.

Having sex with the guy you claimed NEVER loved and then getting engaged to the other guy is NOT nasty? I personally think it's disgusting. Josh SHOULD know about the fact that 2 days before she slept with him, she spread her legs for Nick too.  Nick was trying to take the high-road. Andi was being her usual RBF.

Stating that he had sex with Andi in the fantasy suite on live television knowing millions are watching including Andi's family, his own family and Josh's family? That's nasty to me. He didn't need to declare it.

When is it ok to declare it?

atem wrote:

sdmom wrote:I hope Nick didn't bring that up, but every action you take comes a consequence. So, Andi is an adult, and she did it willingly. Why just blame Nick? If Andi knew from day 1 Josh's the one, why slept with Nick?

Like she was going to say why?  I really don't see why he bothered. Waste of time and energy, because the Lead never tells the truth that it's a SHOW and they have to do deceive people.

For a guy so 'smart', he sure seems out of it.

To me he seems like a normally smart guy who was led on and is heartbroken.

JBF wrote:

noobsleuth wrote:Again, I can't watch  (sometimes I really miss having cable).

What was the audiences reaction to Nick? Was he getting any kind of Bachelor set up at all like Chris? From the comments here it doesn't sound like he did.

I bet they will announce it at the BIP finale.

He is too heartbroken and not ready to "move on" as a lead.

Harrison pretty much soft-sold Chris as the likely candidate. He had his hand on his shoulder while telling viewers they have to wait.

Thanks JBF!

atem wrote:

sdmom wrote:I hope Nick didn't bring that up, but every action you take comes a consequence. So, Andi is an adult, and she did it willingly. Why just blame Nick? If Andi knew from day 1 Josh's the one, why slept with Nick?

Like she was going to say why?  I really don't see why he bothered. Waste of time and energy, because the Lead never tells the truth that it's a SHOW and they have to do deceive people.

For a guy so 'smart', he sure seems out of it.

I totally agree for a man who all season ppl have said is so smart, articulate, intelligent etc, NICK showed just how not so smart he was. If Nick were a true man hurt feelings or NOT, you keep that to your self and respect the process that she is NOT allowed to say she loves anyone until the finale. HE studied many seasons, HIS words so he should know how this process works. I truly felt bad for NICk until that moment and he went down in my book by saying that allowed. YOu could tell she was starting to pull away at the MTP and LCD dates, he should have picked up it. ,

Thank god she picked Josh they are perfect together, funny, playfull, witty, serious, they truly have come full circle. Like she said a week ago, so happy they can ShouT It from the rooftops.

atem wrote:I feel for the anti RS people, because he's going to MEGA gloat tomorrow.

So was he right with every detail?

Poor Eric he saw through her and congrats to Josh and Andi wish them a happy life together. To Nick most 2nd place find the soul mates after the how. Hope he does I think he is a misunderstood and a great guy for me Andi is no catch. Thank you guys for your funny opinions at times and loved being a lurker and LOL at your comments.

alwaystulips wrote:

Jeepers wrote:

jlccaz wrote:Two words on nick.  Paid talent.  His mom was sincere.  But to me,   Nick is a fakey faker at this point. Months have passed. He wants revenge against her.  He is no gentleman.  And he's been feeding the tabloids or authorized it. He went way down in my book just now.  There's time to talk off camera.  That was personal.  

Also with Nick stalking her and all this side drama post filming I now understand why the family of Josh has been so vocal.  They believe in the couple and there have been producer driven antics and BS and meddling post filming,m they are protecting josh.  Good for them.  

Can I frame this post!!!!!

Yes!!!

And, this is my official first post on the spoiled side.