Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - MTP-LCD-FRC- July 28/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

jlccaz wrote:Here you go, friends.

IT’S ONE OF THE MOST ROMANTIC AND DRAMATIC NIGHTS EVER ON ABC, ON THE THREE-HOUR LIVE SEASON FINALE EVENT OF “THE BACHELORETTE,” MONDAY, JULY 28







And Immediately Following the Exciting Season Finale,

Andi, Josh and Nick Look Back at the Emotional Ending to

Their Journey to Find Love, LIVE, on “The Bachelor: After the Final Rose”



“Episode 1010 --Season Finale – After Andi’s dramatic breakup with Juan Pablo last season, she refused to give up on her search for her one great love. After surviving shocking twists and turns and a journey filled with laughter, tears and love, Andi narrowed down the 25 bachelors to two fabulous guys – Josh and Nick. Josh is the type of man Andi has always dated in the past – handsome, athletic and playful – but Andi is plagued with a nagging doubt that he may be too good to be true. Her relationship with Nick is undeniably passionate and filled with an intensity she has never known, but she worries that it may be overwhelming. In this week’s dramatic conclusion, Andi is absolutely torn between the two men and can envision a future with both, but time is running out, on the Season Finale of “The Bachelorette,” airing MONDAY, JULY 28 (8:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.



Then, emotions run high as Andi sits down with Chris Harrison, live, to talk about her two final bachelors from this season – Josh and Nick. She will take viewers back to those final days in in the Dominican Republic when she needed to make her heart-wrenching decision. Both men will return to sit with Andi and discuss the shocking outcome of the show and to discuss their relationships. It’s the emotional ending to Andi’s heartfelt journey to find true love, on “The Bachelorette: After the Final Rose,” MONDAY, JULY 28 (10:01-11:00 p.m., ET).



Andi introduces both men to her family for an important test. Family is extremely crucial to both bachelors, as well as Andi, so it is essential that these meetings with Andi’s family go well. Who will make a lasting impression?



The family is first introduced to Nick who is determined to ask Andi’s father for permission to marry his daughter. But things get off to a shaky start when the usually confident bachelor is almost tongue-tied when he faces his potential in-laws. Will he be able to convince them that he is the only man for Andi?



Josh is next, but will his quick wit and easygoing charm raise a red flag rather than win over Andi’s family? Andi’s dad is right on target when he says that Josh is the kind of guy Andi falls for but never settles down with. Can Josh win their approval and prove to them he is ready to marry their daughter?



Andi has important last dates with both men. She explores the coast of the beautiful Dominican Republic with Josh from the deck of a sailboat. Later, things turn serious as questions arise about the possibility of spending a life together, and he gives her a heartfelt gift. Will Josh be the one to win Andi’s heart or will her lingering doubts push her into Nick’s arms?



Andi and Nick go off-roading and wind up at a secret lagoon for a private swim. That evening, their passion heats up as the couple realizes their chemistry is undeniable. Nick gives Andi a special gift as well that sums up their relationship and his true intentions. Is their special connection enough to carry Nick to the altar?



The final days of Andi’s journey are filled with questions. Then, in a surprising, explosive ending, Andi must do the hardest thing she has ever done. Will her trip of self-discovery end in an engagement or she headed for heartbreak?



The two remaining men are:

Josh M., 29, a former professional baseball player from Atlanta, GA

Nick V., 33, a software sales executive from Chicago, IL

2observe wrote:

jlccaz wrote:Here you go, friends.

IT’S ONE OF THE MOST ROMANTIC AND DRAMATIC NIGHTS EVER ON ABC, ON THE THREE-HOUR LIVE SEASON FINALE EVENT OF “THE BACHELORETTE,” MONDAY, JULY 28







And Immediately Following the Exciting Season Finale,

Andi, Josh and Nick Look Back at the Emotional Ending to

Their Journey to Find Love, LIVE, on “The Bachelor: After the Final Rose”



“Episode 1010 --Season Finale – After Andi’s dramatic breakup with Juan Pablo last season, she refused to give up on her search for her one great love. After surviving shocking twists and turns and a journey filled with laughter, tears and love, Andi narrowed down the 25 bachelors to two fabulous guys – Josh and Nick. Josh is the type of man Andi has always dated in the past – handsome, athletic and playful – but Andi is plagued with a nagging doubt that he may be too good to be true. Her relationship with Nick is undeniably passionate and filled with an intensity she has never known, but she worries that it may be overwhelming. In this week’s dramatic conclusion, Andi is absolutely torn between the two men and can envision a future with both, but time is running out, on the Season Finale of “The Bachelorette,” airing MONDAY, JULY 28 (8:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.



Then, emotions run high as Andi sits down with Chris Harrison, live, to talk about her two final bachelors from this season – Josh and Nick. She will take viewers back to those final days in in the Dominican Republic when she needed to make her heart-wrenching decision. Both men will return to sit with Andi and discuss the shocking outcome of the show and to discuss their relationships. It’s the emotional ending to Andi’s heartfelt journey to find true love, on “The Bachelorette: After the Final Rose,” MONDAY, JULY 28 (10:01-11:00 p.m., ET).



Andi introduces both men to her family for an important test. Family is extremely crucial to both bachelors, as well as Andi, so it is essential that these meetings with Andi’s family go well. Who will make a lasting impression?



The family is first introduced to Nick who is determined to ask Andi’s father for permission to marry his daughter. But things get off to a shaky start when the usually confident bachelor is almost tongue-tied when he faces his potential in-laws. Will he be able to convince them that he is the only man for Andi?



Josh is next, but will his quick wit and easygoing charm raise a red flag rather than win over Andi’s family? Andi’s dad is right on target when he says that Josh is the kind of guy Andi falls for but never settles down with. Can Josh win their approval and prove to them he is ready to marry their daughter?



Andi has important last dates with both men. She explores the coast of the beautiful Dominican Republic with Josh from the deck of a sailboat. Later, things turn serious as questions arise about the possibility of spending a life together, and he gives her a heartfelt gift. Will Josh be the one to win Andi’s heart or will her lingering doubts push her into Nick’s arms?



Andi and Nick go off-roading and wind up at a secret lagoon for a private swim. That evening, their passion heats up as the couple realizes their chemistry is undeniable. Nick gives Andi a special gift as well that sums up their relationship and his true intentions. Is their special connection enough to carry Nick to the altar?



The final days of Andi’s journey are filled with questions. Then, in a surprising, explosive ending, Andi must do the hardest thing she has ever done. Will her trip of self-discovery end in an engagement or she headed for heartbreak?



The two remaining men are:

Josh M., 29, a former professional baseball player from Atlanta, GA

Nick V., 33, a software sales executive from Chicago, IL

It's doesn't look like Nick impresses Andi's parents.  But, it looks like Nick has the last LCD.  Am I reading that correctly?

BachfanNY wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:Part of the problem is having a natural conversation in spite of being fed lines and or reading cue cards or following what production wants you to do. Add to this multiple retakes and then editing.  Emily had particular difficulty in this aspect during her seasons. (from what I understand) I heard crew later mock her regarding her limited "education" and "reading" skills.
So basically, who the heck knows what is what.

I was never a big Emily fan, but poor dear...

I guess we can never know for sure, but I think when there's a true F1, I've always found them to speak a lot more confidently about their feelings. One example is JP - he was very articulate and when he spoke with Ashley, there was no question he felt what he said. I get a similar feeling from Josh, though he expresses himself differently, (I admittedly needed time to get used to this), Josh speaks very confidently to Andi about his feelings - there really is no question, no hesitation, IMO, that he thinks him and Andi are right for each other and that they "just work". That is a fundamental difference that I see between these last 2 guys.

KarmaGirl wrote:Just more firsts for Nick, the list goes on.  He meets her parents first, has first LCD.  Along with a whole list of firsts throughout the season.  (FIR, first second 1 on 1, first and only to sneak over, first hometown rose, first hometown date, first to receive rose at last rose ceremony).   Remember when Nick asks Andi about her favorite part of the date during their fantasy suite date?  She says the helicopter ride because it was his first.  He says, "I like firsts."  Well, he has had a lot of them this season.

rosesrREd wrote:

KarmaGirl wrote:Just more firsts for Nick, the list goes on.  He meets her parents first, has first LCD.  Along with a whole list of firsts throughout the season.  (FIR, first second 1 on 1, first and only to sneak over, first hometown rose, first hometown date, first to receive rose at last rose ceremony).   Remember when Nick asks Andi about her favorite part of the date during their fantasy suite date?  She says the helicopter ride because it was his first.  He says, "I like firsts."  Well, he has had a lot of them this season.

What the order of the LCD tells me is that she doesn't let Nick go before the FRC as everyone has been assuming.  If that is what she done then they would show Josh's LCD last as to play up how much better their connection was, which would then lead in to Andi breaking up with Nick.  It doesn't make sense that they would show Nick's LCD last(which was described as intense and emotional), and then the next day she break up with him, IMO, of course.

ironcat wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

KarmaGirl wrote:Just more firsts for Nick, the list goes on.  He meets her parents first, has first LCD.  Along with a whole list of firsts throughout the season.  (FIR, first second 1 on 1, first and only to sneak over, first hometown rose, first hometown date, first to receive rose at last rose ceremony).   Remember when Nick asks Andi about her favorite part of the date during their fantasy suite date?  She says the helicopter ride because it was his first.  He says, "I like firsts."  Well, he has had a lot of them this season.

What the order of the LCD tells me is that she doesn't let Nick go before the FRC as everyone has been assuming.  If that is what she done then they would show Josh's LCD last as to play up how much better their connection was, which would then lead in to Andi breaking up with Nick.  It doesn't make sense that they would show Nick's LCD last(which was described as intense and emotional), and then the next day she break up with him, IMO, of course.

I don't think that's the only possible scenario.  If she had already decided on Josh, she may have realized after her intense and emotional date with Nick, that he would be too devastated if she let him go so far as to propose to her at the FRC and get turned down, and decided to nip it in the bud the next morning.

rosesrREd wrote:

ironcat wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

What the order of the LCD tells me is that she doesn't let Nick go before the FRC as everyone has been assuming.  If that is what she done then they would show Josh's LCD last as to play up how much better their connection was, which would then lead in to Andi breaking up with Nick.  It doesn't make sense that they would show Nick's LCD last(which was described as intense and emotional), and then the next day she break up with him, IMO, of course.

I don't think that's the only possible scenario.  If she had already decided on Josh, she may have realized after her intense and emotional date with Nick, that he would be too devastated if she let him go so far as to propose to her at the FRC and get turned down, and decided to nip it in the bud the next morning.

My point is how TPTB decided to air the LCD.  The order in which they air these(especially the LCD) says something, IMO,

Tiggerlgh wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

ironcat wrote:

I don't think that's the only possible scenario.  If she had already decided on Josh, she may have realized after her intense and emotional date with Nick, that he would be too devastated if she let him go so far as to propose to her at the FRC and get turned down, and decided to nip it in the bud the next morning.

My point is how TPTB decided to air the LCD.  The order in which they air these(especially the LCD) says something, IMO,

I am not 100% sure who I think  the F1 is.  But I can think of instances of them showing both the F1 and F2's LCD second.  

rosesrREd wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

My point is how TPTB decided to air the LCD.  The order in which they air these(especially the LCD) says something, IMO,

I am not 100% sure who I think  the F1 is.  But I can think of instances of them showing both the F1 and F2's LCD second.  [/quot

That's right, but not one where the F2 date was shown last, and then let go before the FRC.  At least in my knowledge.

ironcat wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

I am not 100% sure who I think  the F1 is.  But I can think of instances of them showing both the F1 and F2's LCD second.  [/quot

That's right, but not one where the F2 date was shown last, and then let go before the FRC.  At least in my knowledge.

This is uncharted territory as the F2 had never been let go the morning of the FRC before.  Still don't see what difference it would make as far as creating a dramatic storyline.