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Post by Jeepers Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:21 am

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chloep wrote:california90- see my response above. Cat was asked a question, why should she have "kept her mouth shut" and act fake? They were emotional and fired up and it clearly showed, but they were right in the gist of things.

That is your own opinion many disagree with you.
Nope, many don't. A lot of people agree with them. JP has been known the worst Bachelor ever. Even Andi poster was mocking him, he acted like a douche and he deserved all the backlash he got.

Nobody deserved that type of backlash.....


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Post by torybean Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:23 am

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nutty1 wrote:What baffles me is how nasty Kelly is (most here agree with that), and how most weeks, Andi is with her when she is tweeting. If what Kelly says doesn't bother Andi, then truthfully I'm happy she didn't pick Nick.

I'm sure there's some Freudian explanation.  Andi is too smart to let her mean girl out too publicly (although the RBF seems to be a window to her soul.)  I think Kelly says what she wishes she could.  Kelly's like her id.

I'm getting to be get-off-my-lawn old.  They all irritate me. A LOT.  Nick's manpris and color block outfits make me want to punch something.  Josh's over active sweat glands make me want to hurl.  And Chris playing hide and go seek on a fantasy date made me want to kick baby seals.  Wait... maybe Kelly's my id?   :shocked!: 

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Post by Rolly Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:24 am

happygirl77us wrote:not understand the hate for Chris S

ITA I didn't like the guys bickering but I thought Chris' point was talk to the person you have and issue with. If JJ had issues with what Andrew said he should confront him. JJ did seem to be an instigator  :stirthepot  and didn't confront Andrew directly but brought issues up to other people. i got the impression there was more than what we saw between Chris and JJ. I think Chris did a great job with his 1:1 with CH.

I still love Chris and hope he is the bachelor. Marquel is a close second. Chris is mature, funny and seems sincere. And I'm from Iowa so I would like to see the farmer end up with someone wonderful. #farmme  Hugesmile 
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Post by soccermom333 Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:24 am

Kashathediva wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
Spencer81 wrote:I'm wondering about her myself for Josh..   Will she be the loving, caring wife and mother, or is she turning into a diva...  hmmmm

You beat me to it. I like both Nick and Josh, I just don't like Andi for either one of them. I'm not sure she's the one that's ready for marriage.

That's the clincher--all of her F3 appeared more ready for marriage than the lead.



But we have not seen Andi with HER family. That will be telling and to see her at the final rose. IMO of course. I have a feeling she will be wearing that $100,000 ring with pride and flashing it on their post show interviews. Smiley
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Post by JBF Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:26 am

Jeepers wrote:EGADS folks .. Turn those frowns sad upside down Smiley .. This thread has turned depressing.......  There are some who found this episode quite comical....

Seeing Harrison on the computer monitor as a future Rosenbaum set the wrong tone for the night.

JJ made me sad. He had tears in his eyes. I liked Andrew. He made me laugh.

Both Marcus and Marquel were too serious. I worry if either does wind up as next Bach.

Of course, the Iowa Farmer ruled the roost like King Midas. I think he was the one who MADE JJ cry. What can I say? The dude can do no wrong. Already I have this image of Andi showing up on his show like Deanna did on Jason's... "Chris, I made a mistake. Don't do the same thing I did."

Josh riding an itty bitty pony at the end of the blooper reel fweightened me a little. I hope nobody makes animated "gifs" out of it.
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Post by rosesrREd Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:27 am

stuckinsc wrote:
Beagle wrote:
emusha wrote:

seriously....there's way too little compassion going around this season jeeeezzzz have people forgetting this is real emotions from real people? this is the worst behaved f1-lead fam & friend group i've seen on this show.... the gloating, the making fun...

so far only josh is seeming normal in the midst of this

i guess tptb is contagious this season and even they stepped it up with the throwing nick under the bus with a villainous edit AFTER he was already heartbroken and AFTER leading him on enough with a frontrunner edit AND leading him to give her a letter to only be thrown under the bush AGAIN.....  Rolling Eyes I thought JPG's season was the lowest of the low but this one is starting to sink lower for me on levels of basic humanity and consideration

Thank you. I want this to be so over. The gloating from Andi, his family and friends is nauseating. I really, really hope that Nick would not show up at the ATFR. It will just be another opportunity for more humiliation. Too many bullies this season.  no no 

Sorry, but I have to ask, wasn't one of Josh's reasons for being so mad at Nick that he made fun of Cody for saying Blessed and it as bullying?  At least Nick had the courtesy to say it to Cody directly and apologize for that when it was brought up.  Josh's friends are cyberbullying and it is cute and funny?  I am sorry isn't this one of the biggest problems in schools today and haven't the actions of the "cool" kids bullying the not cool kids been linked to at least some of the school shootings.  Sorry, it isn't cute and it isn't funny.

Also to me his isn't a guppy in war with Sharks.  The guppy isn't bothering to fight, it is just a bunch of bullies showing their true colors.

I know that I am judged by the friends I keep, so yes, I feel we can judge Andi partially by Kelly and if these really are Josh's good friends and just not former teammates or Athens dudes, then I judge him a little two.  

Please don't quote me scripture and tweets about being a good person, then turn around and have your friends post vile bullying things.  Yes we all make fun of people, but this board while not fully private is no where near as public as twitter.  To equate them to me is rather funny.

ITA with the bolded. Perhaps he didn't tell his friends to Tweet those things, but I am sure he is sitting there laughing at them. Also, Josh has faved some Tweets about Nick that were not so nice. So he is definitely complicit in the bullying.
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Post by citygirl1962 Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:27 am

I think Andi, Josh, Nick and Chris to name a few are all good people. We only see a glimpse of who they are by what they allow us to see on tv. Not fair to judge. I wish love and happiness for all of them. #team JOSH

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:28 am

Did they not have enough about this season to talk about on the MTA? They seemed to waste a ton of time with the ultrasound, random girl from the audience (who seems very familiar looking to me from another tv show) and the BIP stuff. IMO they could have focused more on season then the other stuff.

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Post by cindebugg Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:29 am

nutty1 wrote:What baffles me is how nasty Kelly is (most here agree with that), and how most weeks, Andi is with her when she is tweeting. If what Kelly says doesn't bother Andi, then truthfully I'm happy she didn't pick Nick.

Nick is no saint.  He's favorite and retweeted some questionable stuff.  


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Post by thirteen Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:30 am

citygirl1962 wrote:I think Andi, Josh, Nick and Chris to name a few are all good people. We only see a glimpse of who they are by what they allow us to see on tv. Not fair to judge. I wish love and happiness for all of them. #team JOSH

^ THIS.


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Post by Guest Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:31 am

Jeepers wrote:
StacyNor wrote:
whit90 wrote:

That is your own opinion many disagree with you.
Nope, many don't. A lot of people agree with them. JP has been known the worst Bachelor ever. Even Andi poster was mocking him, he acted like a douche and he deserved all the backlash he got.

Nobody deserved that type of backlash.....
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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:31 am

soccermom333 wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:

You beat me to it. I like both Nick and Josh, I just don't like Andi for either one of them. I'm not sure she's the one that's ready for marriage.

That's the clincher--all of her F3 appeared more ready for marriage than the lead.



But we have not seen Andi with HER family.  That will be telling and to see her at the final rose.  IMO of course.  I have a feeling she will be wearing that $100,000 ring with pride and flashing it on their post show interviews.  Smiley

I feel the old saying about the lead's strengths being turned into his/hers weaknesses rings so true and especially for this season.
MeandI ragged on JPG for not being interested enough in the women and getting to know them. During her season the edit showed her being aggressive and interrogating the men to find out about them and at the same time giving little to no insight to the kind of person she was. She came across hard and cold until the guys broke through her shell with their ILY's.
The MTN was a bust because the focus was on the men's relationship with the men for most of the show. Very little was said about the men's relationship with MeandI.
I'm sure she is not the person the show portrayed her. I wish I could have gotten more glimpses of the real MeandI.



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