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Post by docnash14 Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:24 pm

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Longhornfan wrote:

What if this just a play off of the "secret admirer" letter writing edit?  That scene took place while Andi was still getting ready for the MTA, and Chris Harrison delivered the letter and told Andi in a very serious tone "You need to read this", or something along those lines.  Since it is obvious that Andi is getting ready for the taping of the MTA, then I would think that, more than likely, the letter contained something that pertained to the MTA.  There are many possibilities that could make as much or more sense than what is being implied by the way that scene is being edited.    

Heck, it could have even been Chris S writing one last secret admirer letter for Andi....as a joke.  Maybe he was inviting her to play one last "ghost in the graveyard" game with him....or something that is equally innocuous.  It just seems like they intentionally made that scene look so serious, in order to ramp up speculation and to get more people interested in watching the MTA.  So, who knows what they have up their sleeves?

Anyway, I just do not want the letter to have anything to do with Nick.  As a Nick fan, I sincerely hope he did not write that letter.  And I know that the Josh fans don't want anything to ruin the FRC and AFTR for them.  Here is hoping that we both get our wishes.

While I am one of those who believe Andi and Josh are gaga about each other, I have nothing against Nick and, indeed, there are things about him I find quite charming and tender.  If he is F2 I would imagine he was quite shell-shocked at the outcome as he genuinely seemed to be of the conviction that he and Andi were going to end up with one another.  Based on his conversation with Brian, he seemed equally convinced that Josh was a horrible match for her.   So, while I did not see or hear much affect from Nick in the plane video, it could be that once the shock wore off, his emotionality about the situation surfaced and concomitantly his belief that he and Andi were the best-suited persisted.  So I hope that if he wrote the letter, it did not cause further humiliation and/or hurt for him.  Conversely, if he wrote it and doing so allowed the healing process to begin with him, I am glad for him.  

Well, if Nick felt the need to contact Andi, even in a letter, I hope that he did not do so without talking that over with someone that he trusted would have his BEST INTEREST at heart.  I believe that that should have been someone like his sister (the one that talked to Andi in WI), or perhaps his mother, or even a best friend.

Maybe this is all connected to the producer and Nick having been seen together recently in WI.  I don't know what to make of all of this.  All I know is that this show does not treat people well.  They use and abuse people in the name of "ratings".  I am fearful that Nick is just another casualty.

I guess we will know soon enough though.    

I hope so too. And I agree that his older sister would be a wise choice based on what we have seen her. (I also looked at her twitter several weeks ago and she appears to be evolved and very cool). Let's just hope that he didn't follow Andi's lead and look to CH as his therapy-guide as it's very clear to me that his focus is not on the best interest of the contestants.

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Post by 2observe Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:10 pm

Ash2214 wrote:^Right, we haven't seen Andi reject Nick yet, but that's why the preview stops talking about the MTA and starts talking about the finale and that's where we hear that she receives a letter from the guy she didn't choose. That to me points in the direction of it being the F2 guy, unless the preview is completely lying. Not sure why a guy that is going to see her face to face on the MTA would need to write her a letter.
But it's clear that when Andi receives the letter she is wearing the same white dress as the one she wears when having makeup done for the MTA. So apparently she received the letter right before getting dressed for the MTA.  So like I said before, it would show Andi getting the letter from the one she didn't choose before ETA: we see that she doesn't choose him. I just really don't think the letter is from Nick.
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Post by Piper61 Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:43 pm

Does it make a difference if it is not something we have seen yet? The season was wrapped months ago when Andi received the letter before the MTA. It does not mean that this will air during the episode of the MTA. The casual viewer seeing the preview might not even realize it is given before the MTA show taping. If it is not shown on Monday, many that saw the preview may very well forget about it. Nick was in the LA area at the time if the taping. That to me makes it just as likely that he is the letter writer as much as any of the other guys.
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Post by bilolo Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:44 pm

2observe wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:^Right, we haven't seen Andi reject Nick yet, but that's why the preview stops talking about the MTA and starts talking about the finale and that's where we hear that she receives a letter from the guy she didn't choose. That to me points in the direction of it being the F2 guy, unless the preview is completely lying. Not sure why a guy that is going to see her face to face on the MTA would need to write her a letter.
But it's clear that when Andi receives the letter she is wearing the same white dress as the one she wears when having makeup done for the MTA. So apparently she received the letter right before getting dressed for the MTA.  So like I said before, it would show Andi getting the letter from the one she didn't choose before ETA: we see that she doesn't choose him. I just really don't think the letter is from Nick.
They might show it as a preview for the final.
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:39 pm

Piper61 wrote:Does it make a difference if it is not something we have seen yet?  The season was wrapped months ago when Andi received the letter before the MTA.  It does not mean that this will air during the episode of the MTA.  The casual viewer seeing the preview might not even realize it is given before the MTA show taping.  If it is not shown on Monday, many that saw the preview may very well forget about it.  Nick was in the LA area at the time if the taping.  That to me makes it just as likely that he is the letter writer as much as any of the other guys.  

I think it's going to be the cliffhanger at the end of MTA. They'll show some of it, but not to the part of who it's from or what her decision is. It's to build suspense for the ATFR. imo

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Post by DKWillis Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:40 am

Not sure if this has been posted but did Josh and Andi secretly meet up on the wkend of taping MTA he retweeted from Marcus...it shows the 3 of them doozing on a red couch

Retweeted by Josh Murray
Marcus Grodd @marcusgrodd · Jul 15
Great weekend with some of these hooligans! #bachelorette #mentellall
Marcus Grodd, Josh Murray and dylan petitt

So just maybe Nick too was in LA on something related if Josh was meeting up with Marcus and Dylan after MTA  hmmm  This whole things MTA is somewhat puzzling IMO

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Post by docnash14 Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:54 am

DKWillis wrote:Not sure if this has been posted but did Josh and Andi secretly meet up on the wkend of taping MTA he retweeted from Marcus...it shows the 3 of them doozing on a red couch

Retweeted by Josh Murray
Marcus Grodd @marcusgrodd  ·  Jul 15
Great weekend with some of these hooligans! #bachelorette #mentellall
Marcus Grodd, Josh Murray and dylan petitt

So just maybe Nick too was in LA on something related if Josh was meeting up with Marcus and Dylan after MTA  hmmm   This whole things MTA is somewhat puzzling IMO

Josh was in Tampa that weekend with his family and there are several photos to document it.

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Post by DKWillis Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:30 am

Thx docnash14 been using my laptop having problems so every so often l have to go to the desktop to see twitter and other media pics it sometimes takes a few days to do so.

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Post by Jen15 Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:19 am

MTA Marquel -- why no 1:1?  Smiley 

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-men-tell-all-mon-jul-21-2014/17way4bwk
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Post by pavalygurl Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:21 pm

Jen15 wrote:MTA Marquel -- why no 1:1?  Smiley 

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-men-tell-all-mon-jul-21-2014/17way4bwk

He would be so much fun as TB!

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Post by MiaHawk Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:58 pm

pavalygurl wrote:
Jen15 wrote:MTA Marquel -- why no 1:1?  Smiley 

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-men-tell-all-mon-jul-21-2014/17way4bwk

He would be so much fun as TB!


I agree. Marquel would make an awesome Bachelor. He seems like the complete package, and I think his personality would be great for the lead. Fingers crossed.
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Post by docnash14 Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:03 pm

MiaHawk wrote:
pavalygurl wrote:
Jen15 wrote:MTA Marquel -- why no 1:1?  Smiley 

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/the-men-tell-all-mon-jul-21-2014/17way4bwk

He would be so much fun as TB!


I agree.  Marquel would make an awesome Bachelor.  He seems like the complete package, and I think his personality would be great for the lead.  Fingers crossed.

I like Chris but I hope Marquel will be the next Bachelo; I 'm not, however, holding my breath.

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