Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - Men Tell All - July 21/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

I really don't think it's from Nick since we haven't seen Andi reject him yet. So maybe it's from Chris.

I remember, I was concerned of the letter Sean would receive at his FRC. It was Much Ado About Nothing. My hope is for this letter to be the same!

Sarah_XV wrote:Don't know if this has been discussed. Trying to catch up.

I definitely think Andi recieved the letter at MTA. The girl that does her make-up posted this of Andi pre-MTA. She is wearing the white dress from the promo.

ginamo11 wrote:Just a little sneak peek of @Andi_dorfman just after make up before she's getting ready to get into her dress for Monday nights show. #beautiful #makeupartist I used @TEMPTU foundation for her flawless skin. @chrisbharrison will be talking with her on the men tell-all special Monday night. #grooming for @chrisbharrison I also @ginamo11 #personalmakeupartist used @TEMPTU foundation.

Sarah, that is an awesome find!

^Right, we haven't seen Andi reject Nick yet, but that's why the preview stops talking about the MTA and starts talking about the finale and that's where we hear that she receives a letter from the guy she didn't choose. That to me points in the direction of it being the F2 guy, unless the preview is completely lying. Not sure why a guy that is going to see her face to face on the MTA would need to write her a letter.

I can really see the letter writer being Chris. And the preview being like so many of their slight-of-hand. Just pure misdirection to stir up drama. At least that's what I am hoping!

Maybe they asked Chris to write a letter, at the MTA, since all the spoilers came out so early as just a way to create drama and doubt.

pander3575 wrote:

KarmaGirl wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:


This will make the mean girl in me very happy, I love when RS is wrong.  Even on little things, it brings me a moment of joy.

LOL!  Me too!  I don't like when people gain celebrity or money from ruining someone else's hard work, or riding someone's coat tails.  Critics and Spoilers - not noble in my mind so is there is that bit of happiness when you see the karma bus roll on by.  ;)  

Now I see it a little differently.  Not that I care for the way RS answers peoples questions which can be rude but we all use his spoilers.  If I didn't like spoilers I'd go to the unspoiled threads or not be on this board at all.  I love the spoilers but I enjoy reading the endings to the book so I can go back and relax and enjoy what I'm reading.  RS is working to find the spoilers, MF is working to manipulate the storyboard.  Maybe neither is noble but here we sit talking about both.  Therefore I really don't get joy in either getting hurt but that's JMO and I realize many on here don't feel the same way.  As JPG would say that's ok.

Fair and valid points. And tou·ché re JPG "that's okay."   

nutty1 wrote:I think it's a letter from one of her earlier rejects. Not one of the F2. It's probably much ado about nothing, like so many previews are!

What if this just a play off of the "secret admirer" letter writing edit?  That scene took place while Andi was still getting ready for the MTA, and Chris Harrison delivered the letter and told Andi in a very serious tone "You need to read this", or something along those lines.  Since it is obvious that Andi is getting ready for the taping of the MTA, then I would think that, more than likely, the letter contained something that pertained to the MTA.  There are many possibilities that could make as much or more sense than what is being implied by the way that scene is being edited.    

Heck, it could have even been Chris S writing one last secret admirer letter for Andi....as a joke.  Maybe he was inviting her to play one last "ghost in the graveyard" game with him....or something that is equally innocuous.  It just seems like they intentionally made that scene look so serious, in order to ramp up speculation and to get more people interested in watching the MTA.  So, who knows what they have up their sleeves?

Anyway, I just do not want the letter to have anything to do with Nick.  As a Nick fan, I sincerely hope he did not write that letter.  And I know that the Josh fans don't want anything to ruin the FRC and AFTR for them.  Here is hoping that we both get our wishes.

Longhornfan wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I think it's a letter from one of her earlier rejects. Not one of the F2. It's probably much ado about nothing, like so many previews are!

What if this just a play off of the "secret admirer" letter writing edit?  That scene took place while Andi was still getting ready for the MTA, and Chris Harrison delivered the letter and told Andi in a very serious tone "You need to read this", or something along those lines.  Since it is obvious that Andi is getting ready for the taping of the MTA, then I would think that, more than likely, the letter contained something that pertained to the MTA.  There are many possibilities that could make as much or more sense than what is being implied by the way that scene is being edited.    

Heck, it could have even been Chris S writing one last secret admirer letter for Andi....as a joke.  Maybe he was inviting her to play one last "ghost in the graveyard" game with him....or something that is equally innocuous.  It just seems like they intentionally made that scene look so serious, in order to ramp up speculation and to get more people interested in watching the MTA.  So, who knows what they have up their sleeves?

Anyway, I just do not want the letter to have anything to do with Nick.  As a Nick fan, I sincerely hope he did not write that letter.  And I know that the Josh fans don't want anything to ruin the FRC and AFTR for them.  Here is hoping that we both get our wishes.

While I am one of those who believe Andi and Josh are gaga about each other, I have nothing against Nick and, indeed, there are things about him I find quite charming and tender. If he is F2 I would imagine he was quite shell-shocked at the outcome as he genuinely seemed to be of the conviction that he and Andi were going to end up with one another. Based on his conversation with Brian, he seemed equally convinced that Josh was a horrible match for her. So, while I did not see or hear much affect from Nick in the plane video, it could be that once the shock wore off, his emotionality about the situation surfaced and concomitantly his belief that he and Andi were the best-suited persisted. So I hope that if he wrote the letter, it did not cause further humiliation and/or hurt for him. Conversely, if he wrote it and doing so allowed the healing process to begin with him, I am glad for him.

^^ Great post Docnash.

docnash14 wrote:

Longhornfan wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I think it's a letter from one of her earlier rejects. Not one of the F2. It's probably much ado about nothing, like so many previews are!

What if this just a play off of the "secret admirer" letter writing edit?  That scene took place while Andi was still getting ready for the MTA, and Chris Harrison delivered the letter and told Andi in a very serious tone "You need to read this", or something along those lines.  Since it is obvious that Andi is getting ready for the taping of the MTA, then I would think that, more than likely, the letter contained something that pertained to the MTA.  There are many possibilities that could make as much or more sense than what is being implied by the way that scene is being edited.    

Heck, it could have even been Chris S writing one last secret admirer letter for Andi....as a joke.  Maybe he was inviting her to play one last "ghost in the graveyard" game with him....or something that is equally innocuous.  It just seems like they intentionally made that scene look so serious, in order to ramp up speculation and to get more people interested in watching the MTA.  So, who knows what they have up their sleeves?

Anyway, I just do not want the letter to have anything to do with Nick.  As a Nick fan, I sincerely hope he did not write that letter.  And I know that the Josh fans don't want anything to ruin the FRC and AFTR for them.  Here is hoping that we both get our wishes.

While I am one of those who believe Andi and Josh are gaga about each other, I have nothing against Nick and, indeed, there are things about him I find quite charming and tender.  If he is F2 I would imagine he was quite shell-shocked at the outcome as he genuinely seemed to be of the conviction that he and Andi were going to end up with one another.  Based on his conversation with Brian, he seemed equally convinced that Josh was a horrible match for her.   So, while I did not see or hear much affect from Nick in the plane video, it could be that once the shock wore off, his emotionality about the situation surfaced and concomitantly his belief that he and Andi were the best-suited persisted.  So I hope that if he wrote the letter, it did not cause further humiliation and/or hurt for him.  Conversely, if he wrote it and doing so allowed the healing process to begin with him, I am glad for him.  

Well, if Nick felt the need to contact Andi, even in a letter, I hope that he did not do so without talking that over with someone that he trusted would have his BEST INTEREST at heart. I believe that that should have been someone like his sister (the one that talked to Andi in WI), or perhaps his mother, or even a best friend.

Maybe this is all connected to the producer and Nick having been seen together recently in WI. I don't know what to make of all of this. All I know is that this show does not treat people well. They use and abuse people in the name of "ratings". I am fearful that Nick is just another casualty.

I guess we will know soon enough though.

MiaHawk wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

sdmom wrote:I just hope the poor heartbroken f2 will not be humiliated any more and everyone to be happy.
Honestly this season makes my head spin!
I think I will take a break next season. I invest too much time and emotion this season.  

But, I need my girls to help me have fun making fun of BiP.  It is going to be awesome cringe worthy crapfest.  Fun instead of emotionally trying.

Remember at the end of the day that both Josh and Nick are good, so don't let it get to you.

 :WAVEY: I'll be watching BIP.  No doubt about it.      And I will have no problem making fun of everybody on the crapfest....except for Marcus (and Lacy if she meets my standards for Marcus    ).  Marcus will be my emotional Roto-rooter man.  When the BIP toilet bowl is backed up and just about to overflow,      in will ride  :Bubba:  my knight Marcus  :Knight: ...except instead of a sword, he will wield a plunger.   And he will plunge the crap down to a level that I can tolerate.  :youdaman:  So, have no fear, I will be watching, and snarking, and posting.     

Oh God, Mia. I have tears from laughing. I fear some of this may be cringe worthy (Dylan, I'm talking to you) but I will still support the terrific threesome of Dylan, Marcus and Marquel. I hope we see the fun stuff as well as the drama.