Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

jen689 wrote:Nick's seat looks reclined to me in the video.  Who reclines their seat before take off? IMO not a normal thing to do. This is the only reason the person sitting behind Nick has a clear view and can hear the conversation.

Good observation. Hmm.

Here's the flight attendant -- I don't *think* SW attendants wear scarves?

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IrishGal wrote:What airline was it?  If it's like Southwest you get to choose your seat when you get on.

I think possibly US Airways

pavalygurl wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Not just that - Nick lives in Chicago. How would they know he was going to his parents ? Or am I wrong ?

That's an interesting point.  He might want to see them, but could have gone to Chicago to dump luggage, decompress for a night or so before going to see them.  The plot thickens.

Yes - something is off about him going to see his parents rather than home.

Because I want Nick to be F1 I am thinking that the reason he would go see his folks is to tell them that he is engaged. Otherwise, wouldn't he just go straight to Chicago?

We see what we want to see...   

Jen15 wrote:

pavalygurl wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Not just that - Nick lives in Chicago. How would they know he was going to his parents ? Or am I wrong ?

That's an interesting point.  He might want to see them, but could have gone to Chicago to dump luggage, decompress for a night or so before going to see them.  The plot thickens.

Yes - something is off about him going to see his parents rather than home.

Because I want Nick to be F1 I am thinking that the reason he would go see his folks is to tell them that he is engaged. Otherwise, wouldn't he just go straight to Chicago?

We see what we want to see...   

I think it was Mother's Day on May 11th so that might be why he went home. Plus he hasn't really seen his family in a long time, if that were me even if I lived out of town I would go home to my parents first, JMO

sbolduc wrote:

Jen15 wrote:

pavalygurl wrote:

That's an interesting point.  He might want to see them, but could have gone to Chicago to dump luggage, decompress for a night or so before going to see them.  The plot thickens.

Yes - something is off about him going to see his parents rather than home.

Because I want Nick to be F1 I am thinking that the reason he would go see his folks is to tell them that he is engaged. Otherwise, wouldn't he just go straight to Chicago?

We see what we want to see...   

I think it was Mother's Day on May 11th so that might be why he went home. Plus he hasn't really seen his family in a long time, if that were me even if I lived out of town I would go home to my parents first, JMO

Logic! Darn!

^^ Sorry

The reclined seat thing is interesting though...

JordynRoses wrote:

albean99 wrote:Excellent discussion.


Why would Fleiss give Nick a bad edit if he's the f1? He'll do almost anything to fool the viewers (& RS) including manufactured drama. Ian from Meredith's season was a f1 who got a bad edit. They even went so far as to make his brother look bad which upset Ian a lot.

Hypothetically- IF the video is a foiler-
Tricky Nicky is hardly a 'bad' edit if Tricky Nicky knew he was in on it.
It would all be part of creating a suspenseful masterpiece of a storyline.

This success of pulling something off like this would need to take into account that this was AFTER the FRC, he was F1 and therefore went along with  the plot.

Not a bad edit in the case of the proverbial 'The end justifies the means'.

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Couldnt agree more. this is what i called as The Early Connection's Curse.  .

JP Rosenboum got this for some extent too : his jealousy edit,not being the best Mr. Friendship on the house and Christie (Ash's sister) resistance at MTP.

I always love to lay out the fact/stat : Jash got the dates on episode 3 and 6. Connected well eversince ep.3. Ash need to reassured JP on ep.7 by a GDR. JP was 34 and Ash was 26/27 when doing the show. Hmmm....Similar facts to NiAn. Go figure   

For the record, i dont think Nick called Andi stubborn and scared shitless in the video as degradatory to her... Just as Andi did call Nick 'Salty'. Especially if all of these happening in a foiler scheme. If it comes from another person, it would be different story....

nd4reality wrote:Not just that - Nick lives in Chicago. How would they know he was going to his parents ? Or am I wrong ?

That's a good point. Maybe RS's source clued him in on what flight Nick was taking and hired someone to be on that flight. Also, I think as mentioned above, the flight was still boarding - you can see two people walk by. If that's the case, it would have been easy to have the conversation heard/recorded by someone sitting behind before takeoff as it is much louder and harder to hear in flight. I hope we find out the truth about how this video came to light when all is said and done. I'm still undecided.

murasaki1393 wrote:

JordynRoses wrote:

albean99 wrote:Excellent discussion.


Why would Fleiss give Nick a bad edit if he's the f1? He'll do almost anything to fool the viewers (& RS) including manufactured drama. Ian from Meredith's season was a f1 who got a bad edit. They even went so far as to make his brother look bad which upset Ian a lot.

Hypothetically- IF the video is a foiler-
Tricky Nicky is hardly a 'bad' edit if Tricky Nicky knew he was in on it.
It would all be part of creating a suspenseful masterpiece of a storyline.

This success of pulling something off like this would need to take into account that this was AFTER the FRC, he was F1 and therefore went along with  the plot.

Not a bad edit in the case of the proverbial 'The end justifies the means'.

im loving all this fruitful discussions! Thanks mods and poster fellows  

Couldnt agree more. this is what i called as The Early Connection's Curse.  .

JP Rosenboum got this for some extent too : his jealousy edit,not being the best Mr. Friendship on the house and Christie (Ash's sister) resistance at MTP.

I always love to lay out the fact/stat : Jash got the dates on episode 3 and 6. Connected well eversince ep.3. Ash need to reassured JP on ep.7 by a GDR. JP was 34 and Ash was 26/27 when doing the show.  Hmmm....Similar facts to NiAn. Go figure   

For the record, i dont think Nick called Andi stubborn and scared shitless in the video as degradatory to her... Just as Andi did call Nick 'Salty'. Especially if all of these happening in a foiler scheme. If it comes from another person, it would be different story....

Reiterating something that was said previously --

Nick is a very articulate guy, sincere, etc.

His dialog on the plane to me seems really off and not in keeping with his personality. I don't think he would be so "sour grapes" so soon if he is F2.  I don't think he would talk about either Josh or Andi that way.

Boy, if we are wrong this is going to be upsetting! (as much as one can get "upset" about these things   

In one of the deleted scenes they reference that Nick and Josh are friends.  (Harrison talking to the boys about bromance, etc.)

JordynRoses wrote:

sbolduc wrote:^^ I noticed the exact same thing when I watched that he tarted to laugh. But if it was a foiler why would he be getting the edit he is getting? He is getting the edit I expected once I saw the video, assuming that it is legit of course

"The End Justifies The Means?"

Is that a type JR--did you mean "The End Justifies The Meandi??  

I posted this on the Nick thread. Somewhere in here someone said that Elan was Chris S. producer and now he Nick's. Elan was in Seattle when Chris was handing out roses for no real reason. I can see Elan really enjoying foilers. They've been doing this forever, so it would liven things up. He's clever. No telling what he could come up with.

On a side note, everytime I see this guy singing on my TV, I think of Elan.