Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #4

[nd4reality]

Thanks Nutty mine showed different ones..( a square and a ?) LOL

Could you guys add some of these posts to the f1 F2 sleuthing thread please ?

Also any exchanges between Chris and Marcus and if possible, from earlier the exchanges between Chris and Tasos indicating that they were to meet up at the MTA ? TIA.

[isittrue]

Also not to beat a dead horse, regarding MTA wasn't it a sign during DeAnna's season Jeremy was F3 when he showed up in pics of MTA parties or has it changed since then (I know there was an exception with Courtney)

[nd4reality]

Also an exception with Clare who was F2 and was hanging out with the girls though she did not appear at the WTA like courtney.

[luvlady345]

If Nick is at the MTA, I don't think he will be in studio... He will probably fly to LA to be with the guys and party with them....

What do you think about the possibility of him coming back to apologize ala Courtney?? Just an idea??

It could be, but I don't think he has offended the guys to that degree, do you think he has?

[GuardianAngel]

Just to clarify, Chris was not tagged in any of those exchanges referring to the MTA?

[docnash14]

Nick S. looks so much younger and better with hair to me.

He really does; I didn't even recognize him at first.

[notarose]

What if the key to the story is here:
Tweeted by Nick's brother James
"Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness."
9:08pm - 23 Jun 14.   And retweeted by Nick.



I think this quote by Nick's brother may be more significant than realized and is the key to the storyline kingdom.  To me it is possible confirmation as to why Nick would be let go before a fantasy suite date.  Does that mean he is gone forever?  That remains to be seen.

Background on the letters of James from the New Testament:

" (James) defines "pure and faultless" religion strictly in terms of ethical conduct. As he sees it, the actions of individuals are far more important than the mere content of their intellectual beliefs. He insists that "faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
Furthermore, the standard of goodness is obedience to the laws of God. In obeying what the writer (James) calls "the perfect law that gives freedom," individuals gain their true freedom.
The writer also has much to say about the harm that may arise from gossip and careless use of the tongue.
The letter ends rather abruptly but emphasizes the type of ethical conduct that should always characterize the life of a true Christian."
Source: Coles Notes

If this quote represents they way of thinking of the Vaill family then there is no way Nick would agree to the built in fantasy date "process".

We already know he attended church with Brian, Josh, and Dylan after the stripper GD.  That he attended church as per an ig pic in Venice with what looks to be Brian and Josh (it only shows them from behind and I don't recall which produer posted it but Brian commented on it so he is confirmed) and that he and Brian pointed out the beautiful churches as they approached Venice on the boat.  You can fault Nick for incurring the wrath of the other guys, some brought on by his own flaws/some unwarranted but since that time he appears to have reconciled with a lot of guys through SM.  

Food for thought... and yes, I realize talk of religion is something this show avoids however that doesn't mean it isn't relevant especially since most marriages are sanctioned in a place of worship.

[docnash14]

What if the key to the story is here:
Tweeted by Nick's brother James
"Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness."
9:08pm - 23 Jun 14.   And retweeted by Nick.



I think this quote by Nick's brother may be more significant than realized and is the key to the storyline kingdom.  To me it is possible confirmation as to why Nick would be let go before a fantasy suite date.  Does that mean he is gone forever?  That remains to be seen.

Background on the letters of James from the New Testament:

" (James) defines "pure and faultless" religion strictly in terms of ethical conduct. As he sees it, the actions of individuals are far more important than the mere content of their intellectual beliefs. He insists that "faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
Furthermore, the standard of goodness is obedience to the laws of God. In obeying what the writer (James) calls "the perfect law that gives freedom," individuals gain their true freedom.
The writer also has much to say about the harm that may arise from gossip and careless use of the tongue.
The letter ends rather abruptly but emphasizes the type of ethical conduct that should always characterize the life of a true Christian."
Source: Coles Notes

If this quote represents they way of thinking of the Vaill family then there is no way Nick would agree to the built in fantasy date "process".

We already know he attended church with Brian, Josh, and Dylan after the stripper GD.  That he attended church as per an ig pic in Venice with what looks to be Brian and Josh (it only shows them from behind and I don't recall which produer posted it but Brian commented on it so he is confirmed) and that he and Brian pointed out the beautiful churches as they approached Venice on the boat.  You can fault Nick for incurring the wrath of the other guys, some brought on by his own flaws/some unwarranted but since that time he appears to have reconciled with a lot of guys through SM.  

Food for thought... and yes, I realize talk of religion is something this show avoids however that doesn't mean it isn't relevant especially since most marriages are sanctioned in a place of worship.

So clarify in my own mind, you are speculating that Nick might leave before the Fantasy suite portion of the date? So, if RS is to believed (I realize the significance of what I am saying), Josh would be the only one to have the overnight portion of the date since RS indicated that Chris gets let go before the evening portion of the FD.

[Guest]

Also an exception with Clare who was F2 and was hanging out with the girls though she did  not appear at the WTA like courtney.

and Drew after MTA.we got the IG vid of him hangin out with Zack n Zak in LA. Technically he is a F2 . Just sayin

i dont think Nick will have to do a Courtney-ish assignment. He is not a villain by nature, TPTB made him 'kinda' .He never badmouthing or insult the other guys on the show . JMO

[notarose]

Just to clarify, Chris was not tagged in any of those exchanges referring to the MTA?

Tasos tweeted
@C_Soules agreed! I'm thinking we recite poetry for MTA and reflect deep in our souls. #Bachelorette #cornpablo
12:44pm - 8 Jun 14

[nd4reality]

? Drew had already moved to CA by the time of the MTA on that season. So him hanging out with the rest of the cast was normal. He was frequently handing out with his buds Zac Zack Kasey and Robert, not to mention one of the crew Amy Bean. Using Clare and Drew is actually a bad example because they did not have to travel too much to meet up.

[SueSt]

What if the key to the story is here:
Tweeted by Nick's brother James
"Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness."
9:08pm - 23 Jun 14.   And retweeted by Nick.



I think this quote by Nick's brother may be more significant than realized and is the key to the storyline kingdom.  To me it is possible confirmation as to why Nick would be let go before a fantasy suite date.  Does that mean he is gone forever?  That remains to be seen.

Background on the letters of James from the New Testament:

" (James) defines "pure and faultless" religion strictly in terms of ethical conduct. As he sees it, the actions of individuals are far more important than the mere content of their intellectual beliefs. He insists that "faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."
Furthermore, the standard of goodness is obedience to the laws of God. In obeying what the writer (James) calls "the perfect law that gives freedom," individuals gain their true freedom.
The writer also has much to say about the harm that may arise from gossip and careless use of the tongue.
The letter ends rather abruptly but emphasizes the type of ethical conduct that should always characterize the life of a true Christian."
Source: Coles Notes

If this quote represents they way of thinking of the Vaill family then there is no way Nick would agree to the built in fantasy date "process".

We already know he attended church with Brian, Josh, and Dylan after the stripper GD.  That he attended church as per an ig pic in Venice with what looks to be Brian and Josh (it only shows them from behind and I don't recall which produer posted it but Brian commented on it so he is confirmed) and that he and Brian pointed out the beautiful churches as they approached Venice on the boat.  You can fault Nick for incurring the wrath of the other guys, some brought on by his own flaws/some unwarranted but since that time he appears to have reconciled with a lot of guys through SM.  

Food for thought... and yes, I realize talk of religion is something this show avoids however that doesn't mean it isn't relevant especially since most marriages are sanctioned in a place of worship.

So clarify in my own mind, you are speculating that Nick might leave before the Fantasy suite portion of the date?  So, if RS is to believed (I realize the significance of what I am saying), Josh would be the only one to have the overnight portion of the date since RS indicated that Chris gets let go before the evening portion of the FD.

I took that quote to be in response to the tricky nicky edit... in response to all the resentment from the guys about Nick putting Andi as his #1 priority... like his brother is saying: stay true to your beliefs through the insults and arguments and you will remain on the right path.

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