Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #4

[notarose]

... Nick's apartment is probably just as safe...

Nick lives in a high rise most likely on a very busy street with a lot of people coming and going.  There may even be a doorman.  If Andi's staying at Nick's place she's got a great disguise  :Nod:

Plus if she needs to update her law credentials she could use the daytime to study.

Of course, this "live in" safe house idea would apply equally to any of the prospective guys however the theme of "time" is really evident in Nick & Andi's storyline.  Weekday evenings & nights at home sound cozier than the typical show every 2nd weekend in bubble lockup.

[jen689]

I think the Snapchat could be a potential big clue, if that is Andi's real Snapchat. Being it is Josh's, I don't know why he would go along with the foiler. I would love for you true believers to give me your thoughts, as I'd love to see Nick as F1.

I know Mura is 100% certain Nick if F1.  I want Nick to be F1 since he's is my favorite bachelor.  

I have doubts Nick, Andi, and Josh are in cahoots with the producers.  I just don't see a surprise ending like they pulled off during Des's season.

Some say these clues/spoilers aren't enough evidence to say Josh is F1
To me it's enough evidence to question Nick as F1

RS Spoiler
Plane video
Snapchat screenshots
Murray's social media postings
Cancun visit by Josh
Mexican OFF bug spray
Josh singing video "I'm going to get you baby...why waste your time...you know you're gonna be mine"
LSU yellow/purple bracelets
When has Nick actually had safehouse visits with Andi

[Hotmomma]

Sure thing! It appears she left to go to Florida on Wednesday. She spotted at the airport with her mother. Yesterday there were tweets and pictures of her on the Ft Lauderdale airport. While it seems she got to hang out in Miami at some point if would assume the grandmother lives somewhere in Florida around the Tampa, Miami, FT Lauderdale area. She was spotted with her mother though, so it seems legit and she flew back to Atlanta yesterday. She did post an email from her grandmother on social media that did show the grandmother saying she couldn't wait to see Andi and Andi's mom Patti.

Why in the world would someone post an email on SM showing the grandmother saying she couldn't wait to see them?  Sounds like she wanted the world to think know that she was visiting grandma.  Very strange to me.

She was posting her grandmother's advice.

I am sorry but I personalty don't believe this was from her grandma.JMO

[emad0722]

I think the Snapchat could be a potential big clue, if that is Andi's real Snapchat. Being it is Josh's, I don't know why he would go along with the foiler. I would love for you true believers to give me your thoughts, as I'd love to see Nick as F1.

I know Mura is 100% certain Nick if F1.  I want Nick to be F1 since he's is my favorite bachelor.  

I have doubts Nick, Andi, and Josh are in cahoots with the producers.  I just don't see a surprise ending like they pulled off during Des's season.

Some say these clues/spoilers aren't enough evidence to say Josh is F1
To my it's enough evidence to question Nick as F1

RS Spoiler
Plane video
Snapchat screenshots
Murray's social media postings
Cancun visit by Josh
Mexican OFF bug spray
Josh singing video "I'm going to get you baby...why waste your time...you know you're goin be mine"
LSU yellow/purple bracelets
When has Nick actually had safehouse visits with Andi

I agree with you completely but I'd be happy to be proven wrong and Mura really helps me question my beliefs. 

Either way bring on July 28  

[notarose]

Weekend pic - part of the fam

http://instagram.com/p/pzYZs3RKEu/

The woman on the left, I think, is Nick's sister-in-law but by James' caption it appears the Vaill family might not use the term "-in-law" therefore referring to all by marriage as brother or sister.  An alternative explanation for 11 children.

[remockered]

Weekend pic - part of the fam

http://instagram.com/p/pzYZs3RKEu/

The woman on the left, I think, is Nick's sister-in-law but by James' caption it appears the Vaill family might not use the term "-in-law" therefore referring to all by marriage as brother or sister.  An alternative explanation for 11 children.

Looks like his sister, Sarah.

[notarose]

Weekend pic - part of the fam

http://instagram.com/p/pzYZs3RKEu/

The woman on the left, I think, is Nick's sister-in-law but by James' caption it appears the Vaill family might not use the term "-in-law" therefore referring to all by marriage as brother or sister.  An alternative explanation for 11 children.

Looks like his sister, Sarah.

  thanks. I think if I were Andi I'd be really happy if all the Vaills wore name tags at the HTD.  

[unknown82]

Is it wedding bells in the future for Nick and @AndiDorfman? #TheBachelorette is all-new Monday!



Based on the facebook comments viewers don't like Nick  

It is amazing how people judge others without really knowing them! Nick is not perfect, but I don't think he deserves all the nasty comments that have been spewed on SM. The thing is, the majority don't want Andi to pick Nick. So if by some chance Josh is not the F1, I can only imagine how nasty and hateful SM will be if she ends up with Nick. It will be a make or break situation if Andi ends up with Nick. But if they are committed to each other and really love each other then they could make it. I remember there was a lot of hate towards Ashley on her season but her and JP made it through all of that. I guess we will have to see who she picks on July 28th.

[stuckinsc]

I would like to think anyone would stand up for someone who is being accused of killing a person just by sending them home. IMO it would be more obvious if Mamma Murray was defending Andi over trivial things like 'Staaaap' and whatnot...

Sarah, I completely agree with you. I don't even like Andi and I found those tweets disgraceful. She didn't kill Eric, no one killed Eric, he had a terrible accident and it was in no way Andi's fault. I actually respected Momma Murray for tweeting that about Andi. It furthered my opinion that the Murrays are really great people.

[notarose]

Is it wedding bells in the future for Nick and @AndiDorfman? #TheBachelorette is all-new Monday!



Based on the facebook comments viewers don't like Nick  

It is amazing how people judge others without really knowing them!  Nick is not perfect, but I don't think he deserves all the nasty comments that have been spewed on SM.  The thing is, the majority don't want Andi to pick Nick.  So if by some chance Josh is not the F1, I can only imagine how nasty and hateful SM will be if she ends up with Nick.  It will be a make or break situation if Andi ends up with Nick.  But if they are committed to each other and really love each other then they could make it.  I remember there was a lot of hate towards Ashley on her season but her and JP made it through all of that.  I guess we will have to see who she picks on July 28th.

Sadly true.  I do believe part of the fun as a viewer is the intrigue of observing people in much more detail than is socially acceptable in real life.  Also, it is interesting to watch dating and friendship interactions on the same premise.  However, for me the edit is the most obnoxious part yet technically fascinating as it is the truest of mind games.  It reminds me of "Ender's Game" (great novel).

Should Nick & Andi's love story survive the bubble, I do think he has already shown his ability to remain focused in the halls of adversity as he has had to deal with direct criticism from guys on the show yet that did nothing to derail him from his quest to spend more time with Andi.  The only approval that matters to him is hers.

As to who does or doesn't want them to end up together, the viewers on this SM pic as an example, can tweet vote all they want but those votes are never counted.

[unknown82]

Is it wedding bells in the future for Nick and @AndiDorfman? #TheBachelorette is all-new Monday!



Based on the facebook comments viewers don't like Nick  

It is amazing how people judge others without really knowing them!  Nick is not perfect, but I don't think he deserves all the nasty comments that have been spewed on SM.  The thing is, the majority don't want Andi to pick Nick.  So if by some chance Josh is not the F1, I can only imagine how nasty and hateful SM will be if she ends up with Nick.  It will be a make or break situation if Andi ends up with Nick.  But if they are committed to each other and really love each other then they could make it.  I remember there was a lot of hate towards Ashley on her season but her and JP made it through all of that.  I guess we will have to see who she picks on July 28th.

Sadly true.  I do believe part of the fun as a viewer is the intrigue of observing people in much more detail than is socially acceptable in real life.  Also, it is interesting to watch dating and friendship interactions on the same premise.  However, for me the edit is the most obnoxious part yet technically fascinating as it is the truest of mind games.  It reminds me of "Ender's Game" (great novel).

Should Nick & Andi's love story survive the bubble, I do think he has already shown his ability to remain focused in the halls of adversity as he has had to deal with direct criticism from guys on the show yet that did nothing to derail himfrom his quest to spend more time with Andi.  The only approval that matters to him is hers.

As to who does or doesn't want them to end up together, the viewers on this SM pic as an example, can tweet vote all they want but those votes are never counted.

Totally agree with you   

[Guest]

If Mura is right about Nick being the F1

Maybe Nick couldn't have a safehouse visit this weekend because of the get together with his family  :Nod:

If Mura is right, why wouldn't Andi & Nick be together for 5 week days (evenings and nights - just like real life) instead of 3 days over the weekend?
She did quit her job for a reason.  If she hadn't, she would only be available for weekend safe house visits.  Nick's apartment is probably just as safe  

They have already shown they both change the rules on the show.

hey guys..i could be wrong..until i proven to be right on July 28th     .

I tend to believe Andi is living somewhere very near Chitown--hence quitted her job. So yeah, the SH visits are not going by the 'usual' norm this season. Nick can be sneaking anytime since he is also travelling a lot for his job.

In my book..yes, the first SH visit was during memorial day weekend. After that...not necessarily following every other week rules, since Andi has moved to a new 'safe place'. Still in my book, the last SH visit already done while Nick was out of town for the Charity event.

NR, i coudnt agree more about the 'time theme' in the NiAn storyboard. i get a feeling we will see a glimpse of 'timing' revealed in ATFR. That being said....im getting impatient for July 28th. I just need this wonky season to be over already...  

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