Re: Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

by ThankMeLater Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:40 am

notarose wrote:
stuckinsc wrote:
Piper61 wrote:^^^I know it would have been for me. Their 1on1 times together have totally made me smile.

See, I really like Josh and think he is smitten, but Andi always seems to be questioning him and testing him. It is starting to remind me of Emily with Arie. Maybe it is my bias. I look forward to their 1:1 to see if Andi is softer with him. I like the way Andi is with Nick. I think she is hot for Josh, but other than her kissing him parts, I haven't liked her with him.

I think she picks no one at the FRC. If she picks someone, it will be Josh (as seems to be the case from the Nick plane vid unless it's a ruse) but they have to stop showing the kinds of scenes they are showing with Nick because there is a lot of intimacy there.

At the courtyard dinner she was stroking his fingers while he was talking similar to what he was doing with her in the casino scene. The dinner started at 9:15 then at 12:30 they are at the tower. Why were we shown the clocks? Up on the tower he is either whispering in her ear or kissing her neck before she rapidly turns so they can smooch. When they are facing each other to kiss she reaches up with her hand to touch his face or neck but his hand moves hers out of the way and he holds her face/neck instead. This is a man who knows what he wants and she isn't shying away from him. What the heck happened on that hike that got them to this point so quickly?
Back at the casino, his hand travels from her hip to her bare thigh then he rubs the inner side of her leg with his thumb. This time he is the one who plays with her fingers (it seems to be their thing). Edit cuts to them squeezed into a tight place and she is shown twice grinning like a Cheshire Cat. Like was there no where else to stand in the casino. I actually think he is still uncomfortable with the camera. What's gonna happen when he's not? They'll probably just show lots of convo because ....

Really, it's as if her body is his canvas.

Now this would be a physical edit except they do have conversations. They have great bits of convo even in little cocktail party times. None of this "your so beautiful" , "I want to kiss you" stuff. Instead they just do it, kiss, caress, talk about their last date or how he felt on the group date.

Oh, and THIS is after he has been on 2 dates (a 1-1 and a GD). And, there was that scene outside the doorway with the flowers/note where she wouldn't even wait for him to take off his jackets before drawing him in. It was like he had arrived home from work and she just couldn't wait any longer.

I have no prob with Josh being F1. I just think that following his 1-1, the edit should tone done the showing of her intimacy with Nick. Intimacy is a lot more meaningful than a bunch of kissing and the F1 doesn't need to see that.

I'm sorry but what was the point of this post? Because all you talked about was Nick and And's interaction. You can't compare Nick and Josh yet until we've seen their 1on1 but I'll counteract your analysis as soon as Josh gets a 1on1 to be fair Smiley

by Guest Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:07 am

Just wanted to bring this topic back to life in the Josh thread since I think it's actually a big clue. The bracelet that he's been wearing on his right wrist seems to be purple and gold. Someone pointed out that those are LSU's colors where Andi went to school. I believe the black one he wears on the same wrist is for UGA bulldogs. It would make sense for her to give him the gold and purple as sort of a joke but to represent their blending. He also wore this bracelet at the wedding he was at last weekend.

https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/80/10/51/image13.jpg

by janeh810 Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:19 am

The bracelets make sense. This post is about intimacy. Andi is an intelligent woman and her career as a lawyer taught her how to be methodical. I think she knows the difference between intimacy and attraction. I agree that it is relatively early in the game. Josh has yet to get a date. That will change, in the next episode. According to RS and his sources, Josh gets another date before HTs, and so on. Plenty of time for intimacy.

I'm gonna mention another thing. Josh is half Jewish. He may have been raised Christian. But, I think Andi will go with what is familiar to her. The Jewish faith strongly encourages Jews to marry Jews. I think Andi may feel very comfortable with Josh's mom on the HT dates. I've heard it a 100 times. When you marry, you marry the whole family.

by missfire1977 Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:50 am

janeh810 wrote:The bracelets make sense. This post is about intimacy. Andi is an intelligent woman and her career as a lawyer taught her how to be methodical. I think she knows the difference between intimacy and attraction. I agree that it is relatively early in the game. Josh has yet to get a date. That will change, in the next episode. According to RS and his sources, Josh gets another date before HTs, and so on. Plenty of time for intimacy.

I'm gonna mention another thing. Josh is half Jewish. He may have been raised Christian. But, I think Andi will go with what is familiar to her. The Jewish faith strongly encourages Jews to marry Jews. I think Andi may feel very comfortable with Josh's mom on the HT dates. I've heard it a 100 times. When you marry, you marry the whole family.

I totally agree!!! Especially when its a family as close as the Murrays.

by missfire1977 Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:08 am

Judiful wrote:We all know we only get to see what the producers want us to see. So much is edited in and out to create some drama, but I can honestly say I love it anyway...( Oh to be a fly on the wall in their editing room) !! I really love Andi and Josh together, so I'm looking forward to their one on one date . It feels like I have been waiting 100 years for this. They are so cute and giddy together, they just make me smile !!

I think they have edited out a lot of Andi and Josh's one on one time together. They defiantly have great chemistry. If you've noticed we have seen more PI's with Josh than Andi. And I think they are not showing hers for a reason. But we've heard Andi talk a lot about Marcus and Nick. They don't want to give it away too soon. I still believe Josh will be the F1. And I think after their one on one I think that will seal the deal for me.

I love the yellow and purple bracelet he's wearing. UGA and LSU don't like each other. I'm a die hard UGA fan. We bleed RED and BLACK!!! LOL!!! It will defiantly be interesting during football season. Smiley

by ThankMeLater Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:18 am

missfire1977 wrote:
Judiful wrote:We all know we only get to see what the producers want us to see. So much is edited in and out to create some drama, but I can honestly say I love it anyway...( Oh to be a fly on the wall in their editing room) !! I really love Andi and Josh together, so I'm looking forward to their one on one date . It feels like I have been waiting 100 years for this. They are so cute and giddy together, they just make me smile !!

I think they have edited out a lot of Andi and Josh's one on one time together. They defiantly have great chemistry. If you've noticed we have seen more PI's with Josh than Andi. And I think they are not showing hers for a reason. But we've heard Andi talk a lot about Marcus and Nick. They don't want to give it away too soon. I still believe Josh will be the F1. And I think after their one on one I think that will seal the deal for me.

I love the yellow and purple bracelet he's wearing. UGA and LSU don't like each other. I'm a die hard UGA fan. We bleed RED and BLACK!!! LOL!!! It will defiantly be interesting during football season.

I noticed that as well about them barely showing Andi's PI's regarding Josh but we see her talk about the other guys a lot! They're obviously hiding it..

by Guest Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:19 am

I truly think hometowns will seal the deal for her. She'll get to see josh with his family and how much he loves them and vice versa and she'll see herself fitting in with them and the lifestyle.

by sbolduc Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:27 am

For the bracelets you should put a picture and comment in the F1,2,3 facts thread for later, because that is a good catch!

by bilolo Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:27 am

But why would they hide a lot of the PI and conversations they had ? Don't they want the audience to believe that the two will make it in real life ? By not showing them talk about important things, it makes it difficult for the viewer to think about a lasting relationship.

They showed a lot important discussions between Ashley and JP, it was always a real talk and everybody was impressed about it.

by ThankMeLater Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:27 am

^^ I feel as though if Josh got a second 1on1 before hometowns I think it was game over then and meeting his family was just the icing in the cake.

by albean99 Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:28 am

ThankMeLater wrote:
missfire1977 wrote:
Judiful wrote:We all know we only get to see what the producers want us to see. So much is edited in and out to create some drama, but I can honestly say I love it anyway...( Oh to be a fly on the wall in their editing room) !! I really love Andi and Josh together, so I'm looking forward to their one on one date . It feels like I have been waiting 100 years for this. They are so cute and giddy together, they just make me smile !!

I think they have edited out a lot of Andi and Josh's one on one time together. They defiantly have great chemistry. If you've noticed we have seen more PI's with Josh than Andi. And I think they are not showing hers for a reason. But we've heard Andi talk a lot about Marcus and Nick. They don't want to give it away too soon. I still believe Josh will be the F1. And I think after their one on one I think that will seal the deal for me.

I love the yellow and purple bracelet he's wearing. UGA and LSU don't like each other. I'm a die hard UGA fan. We bleed RED and BLACK!!! LOL!!! It will defiantly be interesting during football season.

I noticed that as well about them barely showing Andi's PI's regarding Josh but we see her talk about the other guys a lot! They're obviously hiding it..

Or they're not. Maybe it was mostly chemistry at this point. I'm sure we'll see more in their 1on 1 date. I'm seeng it all with Nick and even somewhat with Marcus so Josh has some catching up to do.

Notarose made some valid points and this isn't a fan thread so is perfectly acceptable.

by sbolduc Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:32 am

bilolo wrote:But why would they hide a lot of the PI and conversations they had ? Don't they want the audience to believe that the two will make it in real life ? By not showing them talk about important things, it makes it difficult for the viewer to think about a lasting relationship.

They showed a lot important discussions between Ashley and JP, it was always a real talk and everybody was impressed about it.

I think episode 5 will the really telling, I am seeing three guys in the race at this point, mostly Josh v. Nick, with Marcus coming from behind. Episode 5 will be Josh' real first chance to have meaningful conversation with her, I think its hard at the RC and group dates, and I am hoping we get to see it.

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