Re: Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

[soccermom333]

Thanks Chloep. To say this is a foiler campaign in my opinion, is stretching it big time. Those two snapchats were Josh and Andi's official snapchats. There's no doubt about it and they were snap chatting each other. Not only have there been things between Andi and Josh that we've seen, but also with his family, and what we've been given. There's been so much piling up and I don't know why a family and Andi and Josh would go to such great lengths to go through with a foiler. We also can't compare it to des' season, because with Andi and Josh it's far too extensive and there's been much more. People make mistakes. Snapchat is a fun and silly way to communicate and I'm sure they didn't even realize there would be a way to trace it. I know they're supposed to be extremely careful, but it's difficult to be on guard 24.7 when all you want to do is talk and be with your new fiancé in a somewhat normal way.

I personally really like the fact that it does seem she really picked Josh as her f1. It just make sense. They live in the same city, similar background, etc. I actually think it's pretty funny and even cute that they go on this "journey" all over the world, but yet two people from the same city end up together. It's Andi's choice, not ours. I think people get too caught up in regards to being upset she didn't pick their favorites (which is okay! I'm included. Everyone has the right to have their favorites and root for them ) but it's also important to recognize that it is what it is. It's fun trying to figure everything out on our own like we've been doing and I'm still going to post clues that I find, but with all of this, it's pretty clear in my book that Josh is F1.

thanks Ash!   

[janeh810]

I agree that all the clues point to Josh as F1.  And, I suspect we will find other clues that point to Josh.  That doesn't mean we can't continue to sleuth.

[Guest]

I love this time of every season.
There were also so many "clues" pointing to Clare as F1, but all came to nothing.
I doubt he would have been silly enough to have her full and real name on his snap chat though. I know past contestants have talked about using aliases to communicate, so why would he blatantly have her name on display?
I am happy this will be a stress free season as I am not impressed with the Lead and spoiled F1. I can sit back and watch my favs ( Marcus, Marquel, and Chris) and enjoy their moments.
I am not saying Josh isn't the F1, just that it is always nice and rewarding to watch, sleuth rather than believe RS as gospel.
She isn't my favorite and Josh doesn't do it for me , so I am good either way. Reminds me of Emily and one F, didn't care then as well. She really got lucky with a crop of good guys and I cannot wait to watch one of them as the Lead.  

[Ash2214]

I also just want to add that as much as I would want Marcus as the bachelor, it's not going to be. It's going to be Chris. There's no doubt about it in my mind.

I think production hit gold this season. If it is Josh as the f1, then viewers will easily have a couple to root for. Everything about them makes sense and is realistic.
And I'm not saying that they're automatically going to last forever, but it's hard to argue that they don't already have a lot going for them as compared to the other couples from this show.

Also, Chris actually reminds me a lot of Sean. He's like the all American guy, really sweet and someone that deserves to go on this "journey" of his own. He's not really my type, but I can totally see America falling for him and this is exactly what production wants. They're going to get a happy ending with an engagement this season (whether it lasts or not) and a good guy as the next bachelor. They certainly needed all of this after the Juan Pablo thing.

[Guest]

Thanks Chloep. To say this is a foiler campaign in my opinion, is stretching it big time. Those two snapchats were Josh and Andi's official snapchats. There's no doubt about it and they were snap chatting each other. Not only have there been things between Andi and Josh that we've seen, but also with his family, and what we've been given. There's been so much piling up and I don't know why a family and Andi and Josh would go to such great lengths to go through with a foiler. We also can't compare it to des' season, because with Andi and Josh it's far too extensive and there's been much more. People make mistakes. Snapchat is a fun and silly way to communicate and I'm sure they didn't even realize there would be a way to trace it. I know they're supposed to be extremely careful, but it's difficult to be on guard 24.7 when all you want to do is talk and be with your new fiancé in a somewhat normal way.

I personally really like the fact that it does seem she really picked Josh as her f1. It just make sense. They live in the same city, similar background, etc. I actually think it's pretty funny and even cute that they go on this "journey" all over the world, but yet two people from the same city end up together. It's Andi's choice, not ours. I think people get too caught up in regards to being upset she didn't pick their favorites (which is okay! I'm included. Everyone has the right to have their favorites and root for them ) but it's also important to recognize that it is what it is. It's fun trying to figure everything out on our own like we've been doing and I'm still going to post clues that I find, but with all of this, it's pretty clear in my book that Josh is F1.

ETA see2love - basically we had the same thought at the same time   sorry to duplicate




thanks Ash!    

Great post Ash.  And to add personally, I can see why she's end up with Josh and they are cute together so far.  He wouldn't be my choice, but I'm not Andi.  so good luck to her/them.  I'd rather her pick him over my favorites, not because I dislike her but I can see a fit with Josh and a non-fit with some of the others.  I like that I can watch my favorites, of which there are many this season, just for their cute moments, storylines and not be concerned that they aren't being chosen.  This makes it actually way more enjoyable for me than getting emotionally attached to certain outcomes of the show.  And I'm excited to see who's next with the plentiful choices they have for Bachelor.

[emeraldluvsbama]

So has it been determined for sure that britty_baby is Miss Georgia or is that just speculation?

[chloep]

^^ It's just speculation.(based on other social media activities) Though somebody could try to add her and thus get her name.

[Kashathediva]

This is only partially correct.  Someone can snap chat you 100 times a day and they will be listed as your number one person regardless if you "snap" back.  

On snap chat you don't have to reply to people for them to be your best friends. This brittybaby person could have sent him a million snaps and even if he didn't reply she would still be one of his best friends. I don't find anything weird about it at all.

That's just flat out not true. She could send you a million pics, if you don't reply, she is not going to be on your best friends list. Period. You get snap chat score for sending. These scores add up and make up who your "best friends" are. Josh's "best friends" list has nothing to do with Brit_baby2's pics to him.   #notaccusingMrPookieofcheating

It's honestly sad one of his close friends exposed his account though.

Who knows whether he even knew that person....
MOT posted a tweet/pic of a fan girl who bragged about Josh adding her on Snapchat. That was right after RS posted his column, so he probs didn't know yet, that RS posted his handle.... To me that's a clear sign that Josh did NOT care whether the people he added were friends, thus his tweet(about not wanting to add strangers) is just a farce and he is only saying this now because he was made aware of RS' post. #notaccusingMrPookieofcheating #justsaying

How could she not use it much, but she's in Josh's top three? If Andi doesn't use it much, that can't be a good thing can it, considering what we seen??

The left doesn't know what the right is doing. Geesh!

If you haven't used snapchat for 5 days, you don't have best friends. His current best friend list looks different. No Andi(Britt is still there though) #notaccusingMrPookieofcheating
IMO, Snapchat was their means of communication until someone tipped them off.

Looks like marcus is the next bachelor.  I thought it would be Chris.  

No, (it is very, very likely that)he  isn't and he won't be. I not saying 100% because you never know what may happen to all the other guys who are clearly considered before him. I've been advising "Marcus" for a reason to give a call to the other guys. Right now he is making the mistake what many, many other former contestants have made. Believing what TPTB are telling him. (and making assumptions based on it-just because Marcus is telling people that, it won't make it come true - I am sure he won't have a problem finding himself a girl though  )



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TBH, I think we are giving them too much credit.  This is not an extensive foiler campaign, they are just clumsy as hell. These little slip ups are bound to happen in today's world of modern technology and social media.

BTW; If you just snapchat somebody you don't really have to go to their profile, once you added them you have a direct chat link from your contracts....

Thanks for the info!  

[janeh810]

I didn't watch the Juan Pablo season.  If there were many clues that led to Clare as the F1, RS had more clues that led to the real F1.  RS was correct.  In the Des season, Brooks left.  The show is edited to foil us and it foiled us and RS, that time.  But, overall RS is not foiled and can spoil the F1 accurately.  If Josh leaves, RS will be foiled again.  But, the probability of that happening again is small. And, RS doesn't seem worried about it. I'm sure he dotted his i's and crossed his t's this time. The edit foils us into believing that our fav is the F1. Most viewers have never heard of RS and don't follow this forum. So, TPTB aren't really as concerned with RS. They sued RS and it came to nothing. Would they try to foil RS again? I think they have moved on. Do they make money by foiling RS? Does anyone have proof of that? TPTB aren't concerned about this forum because we always have ways of believing our fav is the F1. So, there is never any consensus. The interesting thing is that the F2, F3 find love and really don't need to be the F1. Sean was F3 and found love.

[Piper61]

Thanks Chloep. To say this is a foiler campaign in my opinion, is stretching it big time. Those two snapchats were Josh and Andi's official snapchats. There's no doubt about it and they were snap chatting each other. Not only have there been things between Andi and Josh that we've seen, but also with his family, and what we've been given. There's been so much piling up and I don't know why a family and Andi and Josh would go to such great lengths to go through with a foiler. We also can't compare it to des' season, because with Andi and Josh it's far too extensive and there's been much more. People make mistakes. Snapchat is a fun and silly way to communicate and I'm sure they didn't even realize there would be a way to trace it. I know they're supposed to be extremely careful, but it's difficult to be on guard 24.7 when all you want to do is talk and be with your new fiancé in a somewhat normal way.

I personally really like the fact that it does seem she really picked Josh as her f1. It just make sense. They live in the same city, similar background, etc. I actually think it's pretty funny and even cute that they go on this "journey" all over the world, but yet two people from the same city end up together. It's Andi's choice, not ours. I think people get too caught up in regards to being upset she didn't pick their favorites (which is okay! I'm included. Everyone has the right to have their favorites and root for them ) but it's also important to recognize that it is what it is. It's fun trying to figure everything out on our own like we've been doing and I'm still going to post clues that I find, but with all of this, it's pretty clear in my book that Josh is F1.

   

[Guest]

During Emily's season, there were many clues pointing to 1F as F1.  Many, including myself, thought it had to be Arie because of the chemistry we saw between him and Emily from day 1.  Tweets, pictures, IGs were all over the place prior to the finale that pointed out to Jef  as F1 but we continued to hope it was Arie.  This season, I see the obvious chemistry between Josh and Andi and the clues in SM supporting the spoiler that Josh is F1.  I will keep coming to this board and read all the spoilers and root for Josh (my bias comes from knowing he went to a Jesuit school like I did).  And if he does not get picked, I wish him the same one I made for Arie:  that he will find the woman God deems perfect for him, in God's time.

[nd4reality]

I'm surprised they weren't using secret names to snapchat.

I'm also surprised he snapchats his mom.

Doesn't those things make you go hmmmmm, as it really doesn't seem real.  Something of a setup I smell!

I concur. Or else somebody needs to explain how snapchat works to Andi and Josh...  

Yeah - 5 million explanations would work just fine   .

Jef did a lot of questionable things after that season but this is the height of stupidity.

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