Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #2

[nd4reality]

^^^^ Which is precisely why it is extremely odd that they would risk a safehouse to Cancun.

They have ample time to meet at a more discrete location with does NOT involve airports of any kind.

[Hotmomma]

We must remember that all Safehouse visits are NOT on the weekends! Many have taken place during the weekdays too! in fact just last season Nicki being a nurse worked weekends.

So there is NO pattern saying that every other weekend is a safe house visit. JMO

[luvlady345]

I think it was assumed Andi was in CA because she was tweeting the Bachelorette with Kelly who it was assumed was in Ca. Actually Andi was tweeting with the east coast and I think Kelly was actually in a Atlanta.

Kelly lives in the ATL and if i am not mistaken lives with Andi, so no we did not assume .

[motheroffive]

I think it was assumed Andi was in CA because she was tweeting the Bachelorette with Kelly who it was assumed was in Ca. Actually Andi was tweeting with the east coast and I think Kelly was actually in a Atlanta.

Kelly lives in the ATL and if i am not mistaken lives with Andi,  so no we did not assume .

I am responding to the comment above that Andi was in California early that week. I do not believe she was. She was tweeting east coast time on Monday that week with Kelly, I believe in Atlanta. There was discussion that night that she was in CA. Again, I don't think she was.

[Ash2214]

^ Yes, they can take place during the week, but there were pictures and tweets that proved Andi was in Atlanta during the week too.

Just because some people might want to see this - So, Josh posted a picture to his Instagram less than two hours ago from a golf tournament (it might have been the one from last weekend/monday?) and I guess while he was there Eric Decker and Jessie James Decker were also there. Andi is a huge Jessie James Decker fan and Jessie even sent out a tweet recently that said "Isn't Andi Dorfman gorgeous?" and Andi responded to her. It's only been a couple of hours since Josh posted the instagram picture and now Andi is following Eric Decker on Twitter too now as she just started following him within the past couple of hours. Josh started following them on Twitter last night and Eric Decker now follows Josh too.

Could be nothing, but the timing was funny and I figured I'd post that here.

[cindebugg]

But he was spotted in Cancun...shades of Brooks and his cruise if you ask me.

I think the difference is that Josh flew to where the crew of TB was.  Brooks went on a cruise by himself.

I can't see Josh being a contestant on BIP.  What the audience will see is Josh getting his heart broken one week and the next week he's single and ready to mingle.  It negates the claim that people actually fall in love on the show.   For me there are only 2 options as to why Josh was there, A safe house visit or he's the next Bachelor.  If he's the next Bachelor he really needs to cut the yellow bracelet off.  

But at the same time as the BIP was filming??  I believe he had that yellow one before filming.

The yellow braided bracelet showed up in the middle of Josh and Andi's 1-1 in Brussels. As of 2 days ago he still had it on.

[stuckinsc]

^ We definitely have proof that in two weeks, including the weekends, Andi has not left Atlanta other than that three day period where she was spotted with her mother visiting her grandmother in Florida. If we go by the understanding that Andi's first safe house visit was Memorial Day weekend, which I'm in strong belief that it was, especially considering that weekend marked two weeks since the finale was taped and they're supposed to meet every other weekend and you include the weekend she had ABC commitments in Nashville, then last weekend should have technically been a safe house visit, but we have proof she was in Atlanta.

As of today, the only weekend I don't know of her whereabouts in the past 4 weeks was the same week Josh was spotted in Cancun. We didn't get much from her on social media and no sightings in Atlanta or the airport. Either way, I think this weekend should be telling. If we get sightings of her this weekend in Atlanta or somewhere in Georgia it will mark at least three weeks of her not leaving Atlanta for a safe house visit. We have gotten sightings of her during the week in Atlanta, so it appears even during the week she's still home. It's possible that her F1 is flying to see her during the week or it's possible that her F1 lives in Atlanta, so they technically don't need the typical safe house visits every other weekend.  

And technically, last weekend which would have been a safe house visit, Josh was in a tournament in Athens, while Andi was out with friends in Atlanta, close but not together.

How do we know for fact Andi has been in Atlanta without leaving for two weeks.  I know we have proof of her leaving to go to grandmas, but other than that do we have proof everyday that she was in ATL? Or are we assuming that since we have no proof she was anywhere else she was in ATL?

Yes, for the past two weeks we have either gotten pictures or tweets that confirm she was in ATL. At the most, one day would go by without anything. Technically, since they live in the same state, after her dinner with friends and his golf tournament, it would have been easy for them to meet up at night. It's totally possible.

The only tweets from her that I saw were June 18th and June 28th. But I am not on twitter just look up her page, so perhaps others people have posted seeing her in ATL.

As for going back and forth last weekend, that is true, kind of a waste, but true. I don't know if Josh went out Saturday night, I really don't keep up with every move. Saw the pic with Andi and friends, so I knew that.

I don't know that they have been together, just like I don't know that they have not.

We have no definitive proof of them together. Much circumstantial but not much definitive. I am not saying Josh is not F1 and they are not seeing each other. I am just trying to state that it is not fact, but speculation, maybe good speculation, but still only speculation.

[Luvvy]

Well everything is speculation until the finale, but it is fun to speculate.

[ironcat]

Regarding the importance or lack thereof of circumstantial evidence, is there any that Nick is F1?   

[stuckinsc]

Well everything is speculation until the finale, but it is fun to speculate.

Speculation is fun and part of the process, I think when you aren't convinced of the spoilers and others are and those who are convinced state things as fact, when the are just speculation it causes those who aren't convinced to cringe.

I know the posts that we know they watched the world cup game together were like that for me. It is possible, but since 70% of the people I knew watched that game and commented about it on FB and many were in different states making almost the same comments at almost the same time, I am not convinced for fact that they watched the game together. The probably did, and if people said they probably did it wouldn't annoy me, but when I am told for fact they did. It gets old.

RichLP was a member here during Emily's season and that was his pet peeve, he hated people stating speculation as fact.

[Ash2214]

^ Yes, I've never said anything in regards to Josh being the F1 was fact. I was just postings my findings and through them I've found that Andi hasn't left Atlanta recently other than when she saw her grandmother. Today I found some interesting social media activity between Josh and Andi, so I posted it.

[stuckinsc]

^ Yes, I've never said anything in regards to Josh being the F1 was fact. I was just postings my findings and through them I've found that Andi hasn't left Atlanta recently other than when she saw her grandmother. Today I found some interesting social media activity between Josh and Andi, so I posted it.

That works for me.

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