Re: Bachelorette 10 - Media Thread - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion Thread #2

[GuardianAngel]

oh hold up a sec got a chance to listen to this...

and it's really interesting what she actually says which isn't written up in the article

"But then there's nick and chris who are totaaaallyy not my type but still there's something there with them." ryan: "nick's got that dreamy smile.." "Ya...you know Nick has the smile but he's also got the intellect. He is a guy who is very like mentally stimulating, very passionate and he's the guy you feel like a woman around...I haven't always had that before"

that's quite a lot to say and interesting if it's the edit....hard to see Josh being comfortable with this....
It's also very obvious that Andi didn't even know that this was in her margin of possibilities of romantic relationships! very cool that Nick's maturity is inspiring growth in her....

Totally yes to the bolded.
Nick rocked Andi's world - she is a changed woman.

emusha I didn't get to hear the call..that is very interesting indeed!

WOW!   

[emusha]

so she's drumming up the "nick is passionate" line again with Mario - if josh is F1 my guess is she's gonna chalk it up to ...nick was passionate about me i couldn't reciprocate...

teachturtle wrote:
Andi on Extra TV just now:  


(Mario voice over) Three guys left. One last chance to impress her.
Showed picture of Chris crouching in grass and Andi walking up to him, Josh and Andi dancing, Nick and Andi kissing.  
(Andi voice over) Everything about  Nick is like passionate.  I don’t think I’ve ever been with someone that passionate.
(Mario voice over) in the fantasy suite
Shows a picture of a fantasy suite
Andi-I will say not everyone makes it to the fantasy suite.
Mario:  Do you feel pressure to fulfill their fantasies?
Andi turns red and laughs
Andi: I feel like they should fulfill mine.  (High fives Mario.)  I’m the Bachelorette, right?
Mario: that’s right. They are vying for your attention.  Okay
( Mario voice over) but is she engaged (Looks at her ring finger) Andi leading me to search for a ring tan telling me this about taking her fiancé in question’s last name
Andi: I would hypothetically consider it.

[BachfanNY]

oh hold up a sec got a chance to listen to this...

and it's really interesting what she actually says which isn't written up in the article

"But then there's nick and chris who are totaaaallyy not my type but still there's something there with them." ryan: "nick's got that dreamy smile.." "Ya...you know Nick has the smile but he's also got the intellect. He is a guy who is very like mentally stimulating, very passionate and he's the guy you feel like a woman around...I haven't always had that before"

that's quite a lot to say and interesting if it's the edit....hard to see Josh being comfortable with this....
It's also very obvious that Andi didn't even know that this was in her margin of possibilities of romantic relationships! very cool that Nick's maturity is inspiring growth in her....

To me this just sounds like a really sweet compliment for nick. And it makes sense for her to say it since he was one of the last two standing.

[isittrue]

What did she say about Chris other than he had nice hands. Sometimes, I think the less is said, the more telling it is, if that makes sense. I remember Des describing Brooks as "thoughtful" last year and something more generic toward Chris. I am really starting to think if anyone besides Josh is F1 - it'd be Chris. And I am a Nick fan but the more I read saying that Nick may be F1, the less certain I feel that he has a shot. Since Nick is close to Chris maybe he is helping detract the attention off Chris. Since the focus has always been on Nick and Josh, maybe The Farmer has been F1 all the time. (If he goes home tonight, I still think he may come back.

[docnash14]

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/bachelorette_andi_dorfman_rejects_final_2_nick_viall_josh_murray-2014-07

On Monday's (July 14) episode of "The Bachelorette," Andi Dorfman narrowed her field of men down to the final two when she sent Chris Soules, the farmer from Iowa, home before they even got to the fantasy suite. Nick Viall and Josh Murray are her last two men standing -- so how do some of the guys, Chris Harrison and Andi herself feel about the final two?

Andi Dorfman: "I feel great about my final two. Looking back, I feel a little surprised because they're so different. It's weird to see myself have strong feelings for both them, yet they're pretty opposite. Josh is the fun-loving sports guy, but Nick is the intellectual, more mature guy. Coming into it I knew what my type was and Josh fits that mold, but I came in wanting to branch out from my type and Nick epitomizes that."

Chris Soules: "I wish them both the best, especially having watched everything leading up to this. They're good guys. Nick obviously chose to handle himself differently in the house with us -- if you asked me this while we were still there, I would have said the complete opposite, Josh all the way -- but after having watched it, clearly Nick and Andi have a connection and I hope that's a real connection that he'll carry forward throughout the rest of their lives [if he wins]. I'm on the fence, I think they both have different things going for them.

"Watching the season back, I feel like Nick -- he acted a lot differently around Andi than he did with us. That's a good and bad thing, maybe. You don't really know if that's a game or if he's being somebody he's not with her, but being the house with 19 other guys, it's a tough position to be in. Some of us are strong enough to be the same person from day one to the end and that's who I was, and I think the guys I created a strong bond with were that way. And Nick wasn't. But that's a difference in how you react in a competitive environment like this."

Chris Harrison: "I think she did a great job. The final four, she couldn't have gone wrong. They're great guys. She's narrowed it down to two very different lifestyle choices. I think Josh is comfortable. He's her type, he's what she usually falls back on. And I think Nick is a change she's trying to make. I think she aspires to have that kind of relationship with a guy like that. But when it gets down to it, can she pull the trigger? We'll see."

Marcus Grodd: "I think Nick and Josh are completely different people, different personalities. I'm hopeful that Josh ends up with Andi. Not only is he one of the best friends I walked away from the show with, but I see a match with Andi and Josh. His personality is one in a million, I think the world of the guy and I think they'll make a fantastic couple if they end up together. ... Seeing those episodes with Nick definitely kept my mind on track with thinking about he is here for the show and he just wants to be on TV. He treated this as a game, honestly. I see him as a schemer."

Marquel Martin: "I will defend Nick 'til the day I die. He's one of the best people I will ever have the chance to meet. It's weird because I really felt that, and this is just a personal opinion, I feel that as a man, if you're going after someone you could potentially feel yourself marrying, why would you feel that you are second to anyone? You can't tell me that my connection with Andi isn't as strong as anyone else's and I'm not saying that to be arrogant, but I'm saying that because I was confident in who I am and I'm always going to be that way until proven otherwise. You're proven otherwise when you don't receive a rose.

"And my connection is the only one I know about, so who am I to judge another guy in how he goes after something he loves? I think that's ridiculous. I would understand if Nick made me feel like he thought himself better than me, but he treated me with nothing but respect, he was there for me through my tough times. He was amazing, he was great.

[momoftrips]

The Bachelorette Fan-Favorite Farmer Chris: I Left Heartbroken
Jul 15, 2014 01:01 AM ET
by Robyn Ross

On Monday's episode, Andi chose to forgo her individual room for the fantasy suite with both Nick and Josh but went into her final date with Chris unsure of what her decision would be. After a fun day of horseback riding, followed by Chris expressing his feelings for her even more during dinner, Andi realized she couldn't see a future with the Iowa native and that she didn't want to put him through another rose ceremony. The two parted ways and although devastated, Chris never wavered from being the gentleman he was all season long. Does Chris have any regrets about his journey? Did Andi really not know she was going to send him home that week? The two weigh in. Plus: Does Chris want Andi to choose Nick or Josh?

You might be the first contestant I haven't heard one negative thing about. Did you go in wanting to portray yourself a certain way?
Chris Soules: I went into it being true to myself and was 100 percent that the entire time. I got into some arguments and there were times I wondered what people would think of what I said, but I was myself and did what I felt was right the entire time and let the chips fall where they may. You want to have integrity for yourself, but I do that on a day to day basis and I make mistakes too and I know I did on the show but overall what you see is what you get with who I am, bad or good.


Going into the fantasy dates, did you really not know you'd take him overnight?
Andi: I definitely didn't know [which way] I was going to go. If I knew I wasn't taking him to the overnight I wouldn't have brought him to the Dominican Republic. I've been there, done that and I know the pressure that goes on in that situation. I have way more respect for him than that. That morning I was feeling out the date and I was coming down from this high of his hometown and getting back to the reality of it all. It was a tough decision. I postponed our dinner part and I thought about it a lot.

You and Marcus had progressed maybe more than you and Chris. Do you regret not taking him to overnights regardless of how well hometowns went with Chris?
Andi: I hesitate to answer that because Marcus' family was great and there was nothing negative and, in fact, I knew the struggles he had gone through and I was surprised by the love in that house. It was just that Chris' family was so unbelievable and I felt immediately accepted. I remember telling them this is the first time I don't miss my family because they were a family to me. It was such a high and it was obvious it was between Chris and Marcus at that point.

Do you have any regrets about how you left?
Chris: I left there heartbroken and I said what I wanted to say during that moment we had and put it out there. I bottom line respect her feelings so I can't question where she's at with her feelings. That's something way more important than opinion it is what it is. I said all I needed to say.

All of the final four men pretty much said they were in love. Did it make it harder that they were all so into you?
Andi: Chris [Harrison] and I always joke about it but it really was an embarrassment of riches. Every woman wants to be loved but when it's all in front of your face and you know you have to hurt somebody it's so much more difficult. There's a part of me that wishes two out of four were mean so I could be like, "Get out of here!" It's tough to sit there and say no to guys who are great; it makes it harder.

What did you learn from your experience?
Chris: I felt like I put myself in a position that was very vulnerable and a position I've never felt. I learned how much I can take and handle -- which at times I didn't know how much longer I could take it. It makes me feel hopeful that it's OK to do that and when I get the opportunity with the right person I can do that and still survive if it doesn't work out and still do it again. I'm 32 years old and have been through some pretty tough relationships. This one was different in a lot of ways but it also helped me learn a lot about myself and how to cope and put yourself in situations and manage it as an adult and without family and friends. I know it helped me grow.

Looking at the final two, who do you think she should end up with?
Chris: I really think that I see her more with Josh than anyone just because of similarities and I see the chemistry they have and she's totally drawn to him. But I also see where Nick is a good fit. If you asked me during the season I'd say Josh bar none [but] she and Nick have a neat chemistry now after watching that I see.

 
http://www.tvguide.com/news/bachelorette-chris-soules-1084317.aspx

[sdmom]

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/bachelorette_andi_dorfman_rejects_final_2_nick_viall_josh_murray-2014-07

On Monday's (July 14) episode of "The Bachelorette," Andi Dorfman narrowed her field of men down to the final two when she sent Chris Soules, the farmer from Iowa, home before they even got to the fantasy suite. Nick Viall and Josh Murray are her last two men standing -- so how do some of the guys, Chris Harrison and Andi herself feel about the final two?

Andi Dorfman: "I feel great about my final two. Looking back, I feel a little surprised because they're so different. It's weird to see myself have strong feelings for both them, yet they're pretty opposite. Josh is the fun-loving sports guy, but Nick is the intellectual, more mature guy. Coming into it I knew what my type was and Josh fits that mold, but I came in wanting to branch out from my type and Nick epitomizes that."

Chris Soules: "I wish them both the best, especially having watched everything leading up to this. They're good guys. Nick obviously chose to handle himself differently in the house with us -- if you asked me this while we were still there, I would have said the complete opposite, Josh all the way -- but after having watched it, clearly Nick and Andi have a connection and I hope that's a real connection that he'll carry forward throughout the rest of their lives [if he wins]. I'm on the fence, I think they both have different things going for them.

"Watching the season back, I feel like Nick -- he acted a lot differently around Andi than he did with us. That's a good and bad thing, maybe. You don't really know if that's a game or if he's being somebody he's not with her, but being the house with 19 other guys, it's a tough position to be in. Some of us are strong enough to be the same person from day one to the end and that's who I was, and I think the guys I created a strong bond with were that way. And Nick wasn't. But that's a difference in how you react in a competitive environment like this."

Chris Harrison: "I think she did a great job. The final four, she couldn't have gone wrong. They're great guys. She's narrowed it down to two very different lifestyle choices. I think Josh is comfortable. He's her type, he's what she usually falls back on. And I think Nick is a change she's trying to make. I think she aspires to have that kind of relationship with a guy like that. But when it gets down to it, can she pull the trigger? We'll see."

Marcus Grodd: "I think Nick and Josh are completely different people, different personalities. I'm hopeful that Josh ends up with Andi. Not only is he one of the best friends I walked away from the show with, but I see a match with Andi and Josh. His personality is one in a million, I think the world of the guy and I think they'll make a fantastic couple if they end up together. ... Seeing those episodes with Nick definitely kept my mind on track with thinking about he is here for the show and he just wants to be on TV. He treated this as a game, honestly. I see him as a schemer."

Marquel Martin: "I will defend Nick 'til the day I die. He's one of the best people I will ever have the chance to meet. It's weird because I really felt that, and this is just a personal opinion, I feel that as a man, if you're going after someone you could potentially feel yourself marrying, why would you feel that you are second to anyone? You can't tell me that my connection with Andi isn't as strong as anyone else's and I'm not saying that to be arrogant, but I'm saying that because I was confident in who I am and I'm always going to be that way until proven otherwise. You're proven otherwise when you don't receive a rose.

"And my connection is the only one I know about, so who am I to judge another guy in how he goes after something he loves? I think that's ridiculous. I would understand if Nick made me feel like he thought himself better than me, but he treated me with nothing but respect, he was there for me through my tough times. He was amazing, he was great.



 

Thanks for bringing this over.
Marquel: It's not a popular thing to support the villain in the house, but Maruqeul stays true to himself. Nick is so fortunate to have a loyal friend like him!
Chris S: He already visited Nick so obviously he's friends with him. I feel he's trying to justify his dislike of Nick during the filming. Anyway, he's very PC and trying to please everyone, IMO, of course.
Marcus: I don't know if Nick just wants to be on TV, but I do know Marcus went on another TV show right after the Bachelorette, and he's accusing Nick of the same thing he himself just did?    Ironic much?

[Guest]

I like Nick and I like Josh, however, I sense skeevy things from both of them at different points. That happens with pretty much everyone though. It's life. Regarding what Marcus said, I wouldn't take it too seriously considering he was quite nice to Nick in the Reality interview. Maybe they caught him on a bad day. Either way, he's entitled to his opinion, and it honestly doesnt differ much from the majority, unfortunately .

[atem]

Of course, Andi didn't want to know what Josh lied about... yeah, right.

[chloep]

LOL... Marcus. Hun, hypocritical much?!  :halo: 

[sdmom]

 LOL... Marcus. Hun, hypocritical much?!  :halo: 

Yeah, that's my point. I would have no problem if he said Nick was arrogant or was there to win. Anyway, I'd better be quiet now.

[2observe]

http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/bachelorette_andi_dorfman_rejects_final_2_nick_viall_josh_murray-2014-07

On Monday's (July 14) episode of "The Bachelorette," Andi Dorfman narrowed her field of men down to the final two when she sent Chris Soules, the farmer from Iowa, home before they even got to the fantasy suite. Nick Viall and Josh Murray are her last two men standing -- so how do some of the guys, Chris Harrison and Andi herself feel about the final two?

Andi Dorfman: "I feel great about my final two. Looking back, I feel a little surprised because they're so different. It's weird to see myself have strong feelings for both them, yet they're pretty opposite. Josh is the fun-loving sports guy, but Nick is the intellectual, more mature guy. Coming into it I knew what my type was and Josh fits that mold, but I came in wanting to branch out from my type and Nick epitomizes that."

Chris Soules: "I wish them both the best, especially having watched everything leading up to this. They're good guys. Nick obviously chose to handle himself differently in the house with us -- if you asked me this while we were still there, I would have said the complete opposite, Josh all the way -- but after having watched it, clearly Nick and Andi have a connection and I hope that's a real connection that he'll carry forward throughout the rest of their lives [if he wins]. I'm on the fence, I think they both have different things going for them.

"Watching the season back, I feel like Nick -- he acted a lot differently around Andi than he did with us. That's a good and bad thing, maybe. You don't really know if that's a game or if he's being somebody he's not with her, but being the house with 19 other guys, it's a tough position to be in. Some of us are strong enough to be the same person from day one to the end and that's who I was, and I think the guys I created a strong bond with were that way. And Nick wasn't. But that's a difference in how you react in a competitive environment like this."

Chris Harrison: "I think she did a great job. The final four, she couldn't have gone wrong. They're great guys. She's narrowed it down to two very different lifestyle choices. I think Josh is comfortable. He's her type, he's what she usually falls back on. And I think Nick is a change she's trying to make. I think she aspires to have that kind of relationship with a guy like that. But when it gets down to it, can she pull the trigger? We'll see."

Marcus Grodd: "I think Nick and Josh are completely different people, different personalities. I'm hopeful that Josh ends up with Andi. Not only is he one of the best friends I walked away from the show with, but I see a match with Andi and Josh. His personality is one in a million, I think the world of the guy and I think they'll make a fantastic couple if they end up together. ... Seeing those episodes with Nick definitely kept my mind on track with thinking about he is here for the show and he just wants to be on TV. He treated this as a game, honestly. I see him as a schemer."

Marquel Martin: "I will defend Nick 'til the day I die. He's one of the best people I will ever have the chance to meet. It's weird because I really felt that, and this is just a personal opinion, I feel that as a man, if you're going after someone you could potentially feel yourself marrying, why would you feel that you are second to anyone? You can't tell me that my connection with Andi isn't as strong as anyone else's and I'm not saying that to be arrogant, but I'm saying that because I was confident in who I am and I'm always going to be that way until proven otherwise. You're proven otherwise when you don't receive a rose.

"And my connection is the only one I know about, so who am I to judge another guy in how he goes after something he loves? I think that's ridiculous. I would understand if Nick made me feel like he thought himself better than me, but he treated me with nothing but respect, he was there for me through my tough times. He was amazing, he was great.

Thanks Doc. Well we know she won't pull the trigger.

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