Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?

sbolduc wrote:I noticed more her hands in that clip she is fiddling with her own hands while Josh is trying to hold her arm

Beagle wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Here is a small response to Maggenzm post above (did not want to quote the entire thing).

Andi does not have a doubt about Josh just because he was a pro-athelete. He has not been one for a number of years now and has moved on to a new life path.
If you re-watch ep1 she says it clearly when talking to him. She gets an over confident vibe from him, he comes across to her as not quite true. He says he is shy but then he doesn't act it. In other words she got a red flag going up and its not just because of his past (waaay past).
It seems like till episode 6 (at least) she has not been able to shake that and apparently has had new tiny red flags going off as well.  Pretty darn late.

Here's the curious thing. I am confident that they had plenty of great conversations and a positive storyline to build on edit-wise but it has not been used.
His storyline is ex-pro, hot chemistry and a lack of trust. Not an F1 storyline at all.

It doesn't matter that their family and lifestyles are the same. The edit is not telling us this (which this thread is about incidentally) - its the Josh fans on the board that are. Wherever they get a chance to post this.

I am new at this, but from what I have seen, the producers are doing everything possible to put a question mark in our mind because he is the spoiler F1. I am 100% confident he is F1 based on what I see btwn them, they have something special going on that she has with no one else. She told him to listen to the words of the song (see below, the lyric) ", he is the best match for her and she knows it. We will see the story start unfolding in the next few episodes.
IMO, the story line is her "type" = broke her heart, so she is afraid even though she sees him as the one,. She will come to a realization at the end that he is the one for her.here is part of the E! inerview - no guy is the same. Each guy is unique. It doesn't matter whether the guy fits into a certain "type" because each guy is different. , she will find out that her "type" then. Big clue "type".

This reminds me of the word "needed" used by Des in a  interview Post show " I find out what I needed .... At the proposal she tells Chris "I could'nt see that the one thing I always needed was right in front of me, it was a realization for Des and it is going to be a realization for Andi. Be prepare for a beautiful proposal. This is my story and I am sticking to it. If I am wrong, I will come back here and say I was wrong, but until then JOSH IS F1.  :happydance: 

Here is part of the slow dance song that we didn't get to hear on their date.
Here are the lyrics they cut out and we did not get to hear:

"But this ain't no typical love,
This is the kind that people dream of their whole life,
It ain't a typical love,
It's balanced firmly on the edge of a knife"

So Maggenzm...........who is your favorite this season?    

Maggenzm wrote:

Beagle wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Here is a small response to Maggenzm post above (did not want to quote the entire thing).

Andi does not have a doubt about Josh just because he was a pro-athelete. He has not been one for a number of years now and has moved on to a new life path.
If you re-watch ep1 she says it clearly when talking to him. She gets an over confident vibe from him, he comes across to her as not quite true. He says he is shy but then he doesn't act it. In other words she got a red flag going up and its not just because of his past (waaay past).
It seems like till episode 6 (at least) she has not been able to shake that and apparently has had new tiny red flags going off as well.  Pretty darn late.

Here's the curious thing. I am confident that they had plenty of great conversations and a positive storyline to build on edit-wise but it has not been used.
His storyline is ex-pro, hot chemistry and a lack of trust. Not an F1 storyline at all.

It doesn't matter that their family and lifestyles are the same. The edit is not telling us this (which this thread is about incidentally) - its the Josh fans on the board that are. Wherever they get a chance to post this.

I am new at this, but from what I have seen, the producers are doing everything possible to put a question mark in our mind because he is the spoiler F1. I am 100% confident he is F1 based on what I see btwn them, they have something special going on that she has with no one else. She told him to listen to the words of the song (see below, the lyric) ", he is the best match for her and she knows it. We will see the story start unfolding in the next few episodes.
IMO, the story line is her "type" = broke her heart, so she is afraid even though she sees him as the one,. She will come to a realization at the end that he is the one for her.here is part of the E! inerview - no guy is the same. Each guy is unique. It doesn't matter whether the guy fits into a certain "type" because each guy is different. , she will find out that her "type" then. Big clue "type".

This reminds me of the word "needed" used by Des in a  interview Post show " I find out what I needed .... At the proposal she tells Chris "I could'nt see that the one thing I always needed was right in front of me, it was a realization for Des and it is going to be a realization for Andi. Be prepare for a beautiful proposal. This is my story and I am sticking to it. If I am wrong, I will come back here and say I was wrong, but until then JOSH IS F1.  :happydance: 

Here is part of the slow dance song that we didn't get to hear on their date.
Here are the lyrics they cut out and we did not get to hear:

"But this ain't no typical love,
This is the kind that people dream of their whole life,
It ain't a typical love,
It's balanced firmly on the edge of a knife"

So Maggenzm...........who is your favorite this season?    

Thanks BE!
Honestly, I love all F4s and I will be happy with anyone she ends up with, because it's her life. I think Andi would not go wrong with any one with these great guys. Marcus being the Hotttttttest, but too young for Andi and less mature for her. She will run all over him. Chris is gorgeous, but too serious for Andi. Nick is a great guy, but not as caring as Pookie will need for the long term, it might work short term only. He comes off a little selfish to me. When asked if he thinks he is the front runner, he responds " probably", seriously Nick? How unconsidered of others, not F1 material, I would worry if Andi chose him, but thankfully based on the utube video, he 's gone. Praise the Lord, I say. Now, Josh is confident, kind, strong and firm. He is very caring and compliment Andi very much in every way, these two will last long term, and will be very happy. THE best match for Andi, therefore The F1, not because of RS, but based on my 20 years of match making skills and counselling singles and married couples. Now, we will see how good I am at the end. I rest my case.   

Maggenzm wrote:

JBF wrote:We will all still wuv you, Maggenzm, even if you aren't 100% confident later.

Thanks JBF, my fav sleuther!! Do you know Jason/Molly are also 100% confident Josh is F1? Even Sharleen says that Andi is falling very hard for Josh. So, come on the other side and let's start the celebration early.   

stuckinsc wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

Beagle wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Here is a small response to Maggenzm post above (did not want to quote the entire thing).

Andi does not have a doubt about Josh just because he was a pro-athelete. He has not been one for a number of years now and has moved on to a new life path.
If you re-watch ep1 she says it clearly when talking to him. She gets an over confident vibe from him, he comes across to her as not quite true. He says he is shy but then he doesn't act it. In other words she got a red flag going up and its not just because of his past (waaay past).
It seems like till episode 6 (at least) she has not been able to shake that and apparently has had new tiny red flags going off as well.  Pretty darn late.

Here's the curious thing. I am confident that they had plenty of great conversations and a positive storyline to build on edit-wise but it has not been used.
His storyline is ex-pro, hot chemistry and a lack of trust. Not an F1 storyline at all.

It doesn't matter that their family and lifestyles are the same. The edit is not telling us this (which this thread is about incidentally) - its the Josh fans on the board that are. Wherever they get a chance to post this.

I am new at this, but from what I have seen, the producers are doing everything possible to put a question mark in our mind because he is the spoiler F1. I am 100% confident he is F1 based on what I see btwn them, they have something special going on that she has with no one else. She told him to listen to the words of the song (see below, the lyric) ", he is the best match for her and she knows it. We will see the story start unfolding in the next few episodes.
IMO, the story line is her "type" = broke her heart, so she is afraid even though she sees him as the one,. She will come to a realization at the end that he is the one for her.here is part of the E! inerview - no guy is the same. Each guy is unique. It doesn't matter whether the guy fits into a certain "type" because each guy is different. , she will find out that her "type" then. Big clue "type".

This reminds me of the word "needed" used by Des in a  interview Post show " I find out what I needed .... At the proposal she tells Chris "I could'nt see that the one thing I always needed was right in front of me, it was a realization for Des and it is going to be a realization for Andi. Be prepare for a beautiful proposal. This is my story and I am sticking to it. If I am wrong, I will come back here and say I was wrong, but until then JOSH IS F1.  :happydance: 

Here is part of the slow dance song that we didn't get to hear on their date.
Here are the lyrics they cut out and we did not get to hear:

"But this ain't no typical love,
This is the kind that people dream of their whole life,
It ain't a typical love,
It's balanced firmly on the edge of a knife"

So Maggenzm...........who is your favorite this season?    

Thanks BE!
Honestly, I love all F4s and I will be happy with anyone she ends up with, because it's her life. I think Andi would not go wrong with any one with these great guys. Marcus being the Hotttttttest, but too young for Andi and less mature for her. She will run all over him. Chris is gorgeous, but too serious for Andi. Nick is a great guy, but not as caring as Pookie will need for the long term, it might work short term only. He comes off a little selfish to me. When asked if he thinks he is the front runner, he responds " probably", seriously Nick? How unconsidered of others, not F1 material, I would worry if Andi chose him, but thankfully based on the utube video, he 's gone. Praise the Lord, I say. Now, Josh is confident, kind, strong and firm. He is very caring and compliment Andi very much in every way, these two will last long term, and will be very happy. THE best match for Andi, therefore The F1, not because of RS, but based on my 20 years of match making skills and counselling singles and married couples. Now, we will see how good I am at the end. I rest my case.   

Just want to point out that Nikki, who is good friends with Andi, would have said probably too if asked if she was the front runner on JPG's season.  Andi has tons of confidence so I think Nick have confidence would be good.  In truth, I think Andi is very demanding and needy and if she needs to be the princess and main focus then maybe Josh will be good for her or maybe she will end up throwing hissy fits about his commitment to his family.  He seems quite involved and to love time with the family.  For me I have concerns as to how Andi will handle that.

nutty1 wrote:One interesting thing to add to the conspiracy theories is something RS said the other night during his Podcast....

He said he got the videos just a few hours after he found out who the F1 was, and how the Snapchat things fell in his lap.
It just seems too easy….

I still really think Josh is F1, but it amazes me that RS got so dang lucky this season!

nutty1 wrote:I just meant how it happened so quickly. Kind of reminds me of when several people got the confirmation on the same day that Brooks was F1.

nd4reality wrote:Last season when I was non-spoiled I argued against the folks that insisted that Clare was F1 because even though she and JaunP had excellent physical chemistry, her entire storyline consisted of problem resolution. In nearly every episode except the second one where she had her 1on1 date, the main focus of their conversations edited on screen was problems. And this went on throughout. There never really seemed to be a resolution to them and others kept cropping up along the way. That was not an F1 storyline.

If Nikki was not F1 they would have thrown in a lot more girl drama than they did for her edit. As it is, since she and JaunP were on the outs with tptb she got some thrown at her but far less than if she was not the F1. In fact some of the scenes of "Nikki drama" were actually "Clare drama" which also featured Nikki.
Nikki got a more well rounded edit which included her being a nurse, caring which was what JaunP said he wanted as a partener. Each episode they built on that. JuanP finding things about Nikki that he "really liked   " .

My 1% issue with Josh being F1 is that he too seems to have been pigeon holed into the ex-jock who consistantly has issue resolution with the lead in almost each episode. His edit has been him being in the controversies that have cropped up along the way plus having to resolved the doubts that Andi has in almost every episode we have seen so far. This is not an F1 edit keeping the spoilers aside.

Can anyone please remind me which F1 has had conflict and issue resolution as part of their edit in almost each episode in the last 8 to 10 seasons ? Except for Vienna.