*NO SPOILERS* The Bachelorette 10 - Episode Discussion

pander3575 wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:Here Sharlene's blog

Maggen-- where have you found Sharleen's blog? I keep going to her site and it just has up to Episode 7 posted. I'd love to read it in its entirety. TIA!

She hasn't done her blog yet.  She tweeted and said she was in Paris and didn't want to waste time sitting in front of a computer but will do it later.  Apparently what we read was something she does for that site and is just a quickie thing.

I saw that tweet that she was in Paris, but then found this.

Things always get very real in hometown week. Watching how emotional the guys became to see their loved ones again reminded me vividly of just how homesick I was in my final weeks of filming. We underestimate the comfort of our loved ones until it’s no longer an option to confide in them. Add to this the raw reactions of Andi and the final four to Eric Hill’s death—something I thought was difficult to watch but a respectful move on the show’s part—and episode 8 is easily the most emotional episode this season.


Sharleen Joynt

Thanks maggen and TML!! And GA!!  

ETA-- those clips (of all the dates) are great!! I can't wait to see them! GA, thanks for posting the longer one!

The previews are great.  In the clip with Nick she was closer than she has been in a lot of kisses with him.  I still just see more with Josh.  Libby spelled it out perfectly the connections with Josh.  I found it interesting that Andi narrated the clip with Josh and Chris and Nick narrated in their clip. I guess Andi did in the clip with Nick also..

ETA:  I like when the links are posted and I have the choice to click and see more or not.  It is helpful to me when I'm trying to stay unspoiled.  Thanks for all who are posting to help us with more conversations.

Cari wrote:Sneaking in quick! Actually, emusha, I posted that link earlier because Andi favorited that link. GG thought the unspoiled might not want it so I deleted it! thought it was a big clue because of the title. And my knee jerk reaction was "wow! Andi surely does not hide it anymore!"  I only read it just now. I've no time to post my whole points but I've several "disagreements" with the writer's observations. Though I wholeheartedly agree with her Headline. Perhaps that's why Andi favorited it!    

ALANNA, MY FRIEND!!  We're shipping the same couple again!    

See you guys later!

Eta:

Lost! I know, right?! Mindblowing! Haha       

Sorry WW, it was 2:30am for me and I just didn't know if others would see it as too spoiled for this thread. Not so much the link as I had no idea what it said, but just the fact that she fav something that was pro one of the three by the title gave me pause and then all the Kelly tweets say a lot to me. I know a lot have said in the past they don't follow any social media so I just didn't know if we wanted it posted it here as it could shape someones opinion. Thanks for changing it to a spoiler just to be on the safe side.

LibbyBell wrote:

Maggenzm wrote:Here Sharlene's blog

Maggen-- where have you found Sharleen's blog? I keep going to her site and it just has up to Episode 7 posted. I'd love to read it in its entirety. TIA!

Flare magazine posted it on tweeter, here is the link. It s a short one because she is in Germany.
http://t.co/K6yfzEh8Mt

Peppermom wrote:The previews are great.  In the clip with Nick she was closer than she has been in a lot of kisses with him.  I still just see more with Josh.  Libby spelled it out perfectly the connections with Josh.  I found it interesting that Andi narrated the clip with Josh and Chris and Nick narrated in their clip.  I guess Andi did in the clip with Nick also..

ETA:  I like when the links are posted and I have the choice to click and see more or not.  It is helpful to me when I'm trying to stay unspoiled.  Thanks for all who are posting to help us with more conversations.

OMG! I saw that clip of Andi with Nick, this will be so hard for our Josh, this scene is the water is woo. Andi PI describing her relationship with Nick reminds me of Des describing the passionate relationship she had with Drew. Because, IMO Josh is F1, so, I believe Nick would be so heart broken when he is let go. The connection with Josh is too strong for her to let him go.

pander3575 wrote:I've only been reading in this thread a short time so I have a question.  When did all of you see the real connection with Josh?  Even though she seemed leery because he was a jock I thought she really liked his looks on night one with "nailed it".  

I'll take a swing at this even though Libby touched on a lot of their moments for me.  Sorry in advance it's so long and for any typos.

Episode 1 - I saw the connection right out of the limo.  Yes he was her type, but there was just a natural ease in their conversation during the cocktail party.  The banter about sushi was very playful and had a natural flow about it.  I don't think she was truly questioning whether he was being genuine.  That ITM was shot either later in the season or afterwards since it was not like any other ITMs from that night except for the dress. It was put in for storyline purposes only IMO.

Episode 2 - He kinda calls her out on not stereotyping him as your typical athlete.  It shows to me that he is perceptive, and has likely had others in the past do the same.  At the cocktail party he is a hot mess and Andi seemed to love it.  That first kiss while dancing in the driveway she had a smile the size of Georgia.  I think this is when she starts to think about the "Too good to be true" stuff.  Here's this guy that is "my type" from Atlanta who is great on paper and easy on the eyes.  So there must be something I am missing. It can't be this easy.  So she tries to complicate it and starts over analyze everything.

Episode 3 - He can't sing worth a lick, but he doesn't care.  He enjoys the date anyway even if he forgets all the words.  Again the playful banter between them and those kisses tell me she is VERY interested and has a physical chemistry beyond anything she has with the other guys.  He gets the rose.

Episode 5 - Again natural chemistry oozes out to them.  The way they are walking around town and then to the boat is not like anything I see with the others guys.  Once on the boat they are all over each other.  The way she is touching his hand when he has it around her waist is a way for her to be connected and show she is interested in what he is saying even though they are not facing on another. When they have there picnic I just notice the earrings she has on for the day part of the date are the infinity symbol (forever).  Hmmm very interesting. Of course they get pooped on which is a sign of good luck.  They pull up at the palace and you see he has come around to helped her out of the car (gentleman).  She has a hold of him good and they walk with their arms around each other to dinner.  While at dinner they show some depth to their conversation when they talk about past relationships.  Of course not too much or it wouldn't fit the jock edit.  During the conversation they are completely connected. This is where I see them switch and he is sort of becoming the lead trying to get her to take her walls down with him. He gets the rose and they share a private dance where she makes sure he listens to the words.

Episode 6 - Lie detector test. I actually get what Josh was trying to say here.  Trust is an important part of a relationship, but should be built organically not through some contrived test. I am honest, many say to a fault, but taking a lie detector test would terrify me.  Not every question is a simple yes or no.  He didn't want to see her results and he was glad she tore them up for the guys and it showed him she was trusting them.  For me I didn't think her breakdown in her ITMs this episode (and the preview) where about the lie detector test and trust.  I think it was from her completely fishing for Josh to say he was falling in love with her, and he wouldn't.  He would only say he liked her, he liked her a lot and wouldn't be there if he didn't see the relationship progressing.  She became fisty Andi with that "you're right you wouldnt" .  At this point Andi was a mess because she didn't know if Josh would be able to give her the fairytale she was wanting at the end.  She wanted the man she loved to propose at the end and she didn't know if Josh would be able to give her that.  Hence the breakdown.  This for me is when I knew it was all over for Andi, unless Josh were to leave and I didn't see him going anywhere.

Episode 7 - When Nick snuck over to visit Andi that was the first time I could really see a strong connection between them.  At this point she doesn't know if Josh is going to stick around or be ready to propose at the end if he does.  She is scared that it may stall as all the other guys around him are dropping the L word left and right.  So when she is with Nick she is exploring other options just in case (sorry Nick fans).  Now comes her second date with Josh. She keeps digging for that "I'm falling in love with you" from him, but he is not budging.  Did she really think he would say it as they are breaking bread while sitting on the wall of the canal?  Josh is just lucky she didn't push him in!  That girl wanted him to say it so bad.  Enter romantic setting.  Again she starts pressing.  IMO he had wanted to say it before, but was not going to cave in so he did it when he was ready and once he did it was all over for the other guys.  That glow and smile you can't edit. When they walk out to the concert, and he kisses her, and then as he begins to walk off she pulls him back in for more the other guys may have just as well gone home.  Then they dance and kiss and dance and kiss on the nose or anywhere they so choose.

For me it's the little things like the way they touch each other, the way they embrace, the kisses on the nose, and other subtle things.  It just seemed different to me.  When he walked in with her to meet his parents and he got emotional she reaches up and gently wipes away his tear. And last but not least when he gave her the bouquet of roses and she calls him baaaaaaaabe.  Loved it.

These two remind me of Jash and I hope it works out just the same for them as it did for Ashley and JP.

I really have tried to see something between Andi and the other guys, but to me Josh is just on another level.  I'm not saying there is nothing there with the other guys as that would be naive, but it's nothing compared to what I see with Josh.  I think he turns the fiery Andi into mush.  He seems to bring out a softer side to Andi and I really like that.

Non Josh fans don't laugh at me.  I will be driving the #teamidiot buss if I'm wrong.  I just call them as I see them even when they are not my favorite.  This time my favorite just happens to be who I think Andi ends up with.

WAKE UP!!!!  

GG, love your post and it all makes sense. He is the only one for her and they just fit. Ying/yang

Thanks. That is exactly how I've seen the whole season too except the lie detector part. However the way you explained it makes a lot of sense. Did you notice when she asked the guys should she look at the results the other guys said sure but Josh shook his head no and she tore them up. He also didn't want to hear hers but Brian was too quick.

If you're driving then I may need a ride on the bus for sure. They do remind me so much of Jash which I loved from the time JP got out of the limo and said he only brought his smile.

GG, best post on Jodi ever! This is exactly how I see their love story as well!

Maggenzm wrote:

Peppermom wrote:The previews are great.  In the clip with Nick she was closer than she has been in a lot of kisses with him.  I still just see more with Josh.  Libby spelled it out perfectly the connections with Josh.  I found it interesting that Andi narrated the clip with Josh and Chris and Nick narrated in their clip.  I guess Andi did in the clip with Nick also..

ETA:  I like when the links are posted and I have the choice to click and see more or not.  It is helpful to me when I'm trying to stay unspoiled.  Thanks for all who are posting to help us with more conversations.

OMG! I saw that clip of Andi with Nick, this will be so hard for our Josh, this scene is the water is woo. Andi PI describing her relationship with Nick reminds me of Des describing the passionate relationship she had with Drew. Because, IMO Josh is F1, so, I believe Nick would be so heart broken when he is let go. The connection with Josh  is too strong for her to let him go.

Agree, I saw some when he snuck over to visit her in Brussels, but then it was gone on the GD and HTD.  I do see a strong connection here with Nick. It reminds me of Ashley and JP in Fiji, but I'm still not sure it has the same passion Jash had IMO.  It will be interesting to see the whole date, but overall her connection with Nick still reminds me of Ben.  I can see why he would be confused if he's not F1, just as Ben was with Ashley.  I agree with you this will be hard for Josh to see if he is F1.  However, like JP said he will just need to remember that what they had was different than any other guy. (That music will always remind me of Ashley and JP on the beach in Thailand.)

pander3575 wrote:Thanks.  That is exactly how I've seen the whole season too except the lie detector part.  However the way you explained it makes a lot of sense.  Did you notice when she asked the guys should she look at the results the other guys said sure but Josh shook his head no and she tore them up.  He also didn't want to hear hers but Brian was too quick.

If you're driving then I may need a ride on the bus for sure.  They do remind me so much of Jash which I loved from the time JP got out of the limo and said he only brought his smile.

I did. To me Josh was just being honest on how he felt about it. All the other guys were saying the same stuff, but didn't feel as comfortable with Andi to bring it up. So many think when he shook his head no that it was because he was lying, but I think it was just on principle. With him not wanting to see Andi's results he was "practicing what he was preaching". He heard them (thanks Brian), but he never looked at them like the other guys.