Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

by nannymargie Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:30 pm

missfire1977 wrote:
eusebeia wrote:Did Marcus really say he hadn't dated in 3 years because he was traumatized by his last breakup? What is it with these guys--first Josh, now Marcus? Are we supposed to believe this? Did producers tell them to say this? Why?

I don't know about Marcus but I believe that about Josh. I say this because he has talked about this with one of his co workers. I've known about this since before the season started. She told me he's EXTREMELY picky looking for the PERFECT woman.

I know there is no such thing as a perfect woman or person for that matter. But for Josh maybe Andi is perfect for him.

by bleuberry Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:32 pm

Sadly there isn't one guy I feel is what Andi needs. That strong, confident, drama avoiding rock by her side.

by emad0722 Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:36 pm

Can i just say I find it extremely weird that Andi is favouring tweets from Reality Steve. RS was sticking up for her and she favourited them? Isn't that like breaking no 1 bach code??

by soccermom333 Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:37 pm

JBF wrote:
nd4reality wrote:I would throw her a bone big time normally.

But she made such a gigantic thing of JaunP on his season - Karma is a bitch. What goes around comes around. I have no sympathy for her.

You won't believe this, since I was so hard on the poor girl last season. I mean... she wasn't very likable with Juan. I was even telling you that I wasn't going to watch her at all this season. I didn't initially... only started on youtube clips of episode #1 a day after it aired.

... and I am avoiding all of the media and sticking to The Show mostly.

However I do find her quite fascinating. Not only that... she seems so much easier to "read" than other leads. Either that or I am understanding the Bachelorettes better. (I'm still lousy with The Bachelor since I never know what these guys want.) None of us are 100% certain of the outcome, but you already know my "vibe"... LOL!

It appears... from my angle, not that my angle may be correct come finale time... that she has already "fallen" for somebody and the editors are doing everything possible to BURY the relationship on screen so they have a show. Not only that, I think a couple of the guys know it too.

Well... maybe not Nick. He may be the sacrificial lamb dragged to F2 or F3, thinking he's The Only One.

Yet Josh is clearly enjoying himself with little worry about "getting the girl". He was more upset about losing The Game than losing "time" with HER.

Eric simply decided to "pry out" of her what was already obvious to him; he just wanted her to stop playing Poker Face with him. Yet she was NOT in the mood and snapped. Poor girl is struggling, blubbering about looking into every guy's face and having to dump him.

Marcus... I really like this guy! He was such a gentleman. When joking that they should kiss in front of the guys peaking in the window... I have to re-watch that scene... she was all "No! No! No!" and he quickly got The Message. Yet he will be very patient with her until they have their boo-hoo parting.

Nice post and i agree with you about Josh. He is crazy about her and Andi is just different around him. TONS of chemistry. I also caught that question from Marcus and Andi quickly answering "no!"

by bleuberry Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:39 pm

emad0722 wrote:Can i just say I find it extremely weird that Andi is favouring tweets from Reality Steve. RS was sticking up for her and she favourited them? Isn't that like breaking no 1 bach code??

by **Sprite** Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:39 pm

Ash2214 wrote:At the end of the day, Andi knew she wasn't going to end up with Eric and Eric basically said he knew it wasn't going to work with Andi. Unfortunately, this is a reality television show. There needs to be someone to create drama. Andi gets paid to do so. If Eric was still alive, I bet no one would be huffing and puffing the way they are. Did Andi overreact? 100%. Could Eric have maybe gone about it differently? I think so. But this is a television show and things like this need to happen and unfortunately a sweet guy involved in this particular set of drama passed away.

I wish the show honored Eric in the last 10 minutes rather than save face for Andi, but I do get why they did it. She's getting hammered on social media right now. Andi didn't know that Eric was going to tragically die and the negativity is a bit much, especially considering this sort of drama happens every single season, but she's getting plummeted with hate because the other person is no longer here.

I'm not so sure a sweet, humble and full of life guy like Eric would want that. #LiveLikeEric is a damn good motto.

I agree that they both knew they were not going to end up together. He could have expressed himself differently and if she had not gotten all defensive she might have understood what he was trying to say. She totally overreacted and the fact that the show was trying to save her face with that little talk with CH actually didn't do her or them any favours. They should have done a little video tribute or at least his photo with his birth and death. Instead they go for the promo.

While it is unfortunate that she is being pummelled in social media...I think she would have been whether he had died or not. The difference would have been in the degree. We are 4 weeks into the show and she has already melted down twice. The drunk guy and now this. The episode with Eric is almost like karma for JPab. Eric asked similar things to what she asked JPab last season. JPab answered her politely...even though she didn't thinks so and she was a royal b*tch to him and he got pummelled in SM. Now she is being questioned and her response is the same. Eric kept his cool and was extremely polite to her even though you could see he was upset and didn't understand her overreaction. She on the other hand exploded again. Whether it was genuine or being dramatic for the sake of the show is irrelevant to me. The fact that she couldn't calmly discuss things when questioned gives me pause not only about her character/maturity/sense of entitlement but just how good a prosecutor she is. Things don't always go your way....as adults you better learn to deal with that...even more so if you are a prosecutor. Now she is being questioned on SM. Sounds like karma to me.

I feel like we need a shot of JPab watching this...much like we had with Brad on the couch eating his sandwich watching Emily.

RIP Eric and my condolences to his family.

by docnash14 Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:40 pm

soccermom333 wrote:
JBF wrote:
nd4reality wrote:I would throw her a bone big time normally.

But she made such a gigantic thing of JaunP on his season - Karma is a bitch. What goes around comes around. I have no sympathy for her.

You won't believe this, since I was so hard on the poor girl last season. I mean... she wasn't very likable with Juan. I was even telling you that I wasn't going to watch her at all this season. I didn't initially... only started on youtube clips of episode #1 a day after it aired.

... and I am avoiding all of the media and sticking to The Show mostly.

However I do find her quite fascinating. Not only that... she seems so much easier to "read" than other leads. Either that or I am understanding the Bachelorettes better. (I'm still lousy with The Bachelor since I never know what these guys want.) None of us are 100% certain of the outcome, but you already know my "vibe"... LOL!

It appears... from my angle, not that my angle may be correct come finale time... that she has already "fallen" for somebody and the editors are doing everything possible to BURY the relationship on screen so they have a show. Not only that, I think a couple of the guys know it too.

Well... maybe not Nick. He may be the sacrificial lamb dragged to F2 or F3, thinking he's The Only One.

Yet Josh is clearly enjoying himself with little worry about "getting the girl". He was more upset about losing The Game than losing "time" with HER.

Eric simply decided to "pry out" of her what was already obvious to him; he just wanted her to stop playing Poker Face with him. Yet she was NOT in the mood and snapped. Poor girl is struggling, blubbering about looking into every guy's face and having to dump him.

Marcus... I really like this guy! He was such a gentleman. When joking that they should kiss in front of the guys peaking in the window... I have to re-watch that scene... she was all "No! No! No!" and he quickly got The Message. Yet he will be very patient with her until they have their boo-hoo parting.

Nice post and i agree with you about Josh. He is crazy about her and Andi is just different around him. TONS of chemistry. I also caught that question from Marcus and Andi quickly answering "no!"

I agree also that Josh is ga-ga over her. What I don't agree with is that he was more upset about losing the game than he was losing time with her. While he admitted that he is competitive he said several times that he was there to spend time with Andi and had been looking forward to having time with her that evening.

by bleuberry Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:41 pm

Sprite wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:At the end of the day, Andi knew she wasn't going to end up with Eric and Eric basically said he knew it wasn't going to work with Andi. Unfortunately, this is a reality television show. There needs to be someone to create drama. Andi gets paid to do so. If Eric was still alive, I bet no one would be huffing and puffing the way they are. Did Andi overreact? 100%. Could Eric have maybe gone about it differently? I think so. But this is a television show and things like this need to happen and unfortunately a sweet guy involved in this particular set of drama passed away.

I wish the show honored Eric in the last 10 minutes rather than save face for Andi, but I do get why they did it. She's getting hammered on social media right now. Andi didn't know that Eric was going to tragically die and the negativity is a bit much, especially considering this sort of drama happens every single season, but she's getting plummeted with hate because the other person is no longer here.

I'm not so sure a sweet, humble and full of life guy like Eric would want that. #LiveLikeEric is a damn good motto.

I agree that they both knew they were not going to end up together. He could have expressed himself differently and if she had not gotten all defensive she might have understood what he was trying to say. She totally overreacted and the fact that the show was trying to save her face with that little talk with CH actually didn't do her or them any favours. They should have done a little video tribute or at least his photo with his birth and death. Instead they go for the promo.

While it is unfortunate that she is being pummelled in social media...I think she would have been whether he had died or not. The difference would have been in the degree. We are 4 weeks into the show and she has already melted down twice. The drunk guy and now this. The episode with Eric is almost like karma for JPab. Eric asked similar things to what she asked JPab last season. JPab answered her politely...even though she didn't thinks so and she was a royal b*tch to him and he got pummelled in SM. Now she is being questioned and her response is the same. Eric kept his cool and was extremely polite to her even though you could see he was upset and didn't understand her overreaction. She on the other hand exploded again. Whether it was genuine or being dramatic for the sake of the show is irrelevant to me. The fact that she couldn't calmly discuss things when questioned gives me pause not only about her character/maturity/sense of entitlement but just how good a prosecutor she is. Things don't always go your way....as adults you better learn to deal with that...even more so if you are a prosecutor. Now she is being questioned on SM. Sounds like karma to me.

I feel like we need a shot of JPab watching this...much like we had with Brad on the couch eating his sandwich watching Emily.

RIP Eric and my condolences to his family.

by atem Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:46 pm

Andi was shown as she was. An over reactive idiot. But, by episode 5 all will be forgotten.

Of course, she would favor RS's tweets. Is she seriously paying the guy? Oh, and his tweets were something else! It has nothing to do with Eric's death. It has to do with how this show is, period! But, what does RS care, but that he thinks we are suckers with no lives?

Lastly, any show that has a producer actually make fun of Dylan's situation is just the cherry on top with how crass and stupid this show is.

by Ash2214 Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:49 pm

emad0722 wrote:Can i just say I find it extremely weird that Andi is favouring tweets from Reality Steve. RS was sticking up for her and she favourited them? Isn't that like breaking no 1 bach code??

I have a feeling Andi is not too pleased with how it all went down tonight. Production could have edited that all out so it wouldn't be a difficult situation for anyone, but they chose to keep it in. She's getting hammered on social media right now. She's not a happy camper right now I'd assume. It doesn't surprise me she favorited tweets from public enemy #1. laugh out loud

by Guest Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:49 pm

nannymargie wrote:
missfire1977 wrote:
eusebeia wrote:Did Marcus really say he hadn't dated in 3 years because he was traumatized by his last breakup? What is it with these guys--first Josh, now Marcus? Are we supposed to believe this? Did producers tell them to say this? Why?

I don't know about Marcus but I believe that about Josh. I say this because he has talked about this with one of his co workers. I've known about this since before the season started. She told me he's EXTREMELY picky looking for the PERFECT woman.

I know there is no such thing as a perfect woman or person for that matter. But for Josh maybe Andi is perfect for him.

Come on Marcus and Josh playing the "I haven't dated in years". I hate that, maybe say I haven't had a serious girlfriend in years, and I wish Marcus didn't say he was falling in love with her, too much too soon, again a la Josh.

That said I see major red flags with Josh - an almost 30 year old who values family so highly now at the point of not dating much because he's trying to find the perfect woman, I assume to measure up to his mother, good idea in theory, major relationship hurdle to me. Plus his temperament just turns me off. He sure gets "fired up" a lot.

Marcus on the other hand makes me :eyesigh: despite doing the same irksome things. He is so sweet, gentle natured and even if he's just putting on an act and his regular get the girl moves - I don't care, because it's just so darn cute to watch. And he's the first guy I've seen ask about Andi's life, something we know she values. Calling her "hon", asking about her mom to distract her and covering up the rose. He seems to be getting more at ease with the cameras and he has an ease in conversation and a subtle sense of humor that are coming out along with his earnest nature. I heart him.

#LIVELIKEERIC - make the most of each day, experience and interaction

by jcrbil Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:51 pm

Though Andi is no doubt a great ADA and was willing to be the bachelorette, I do think that she's not good with spontaneity - Eric went "off script" and Andi, being tired and maybe even hungry, did not react with grace. I'm reasonably certain that once filming stopped and she reflected she wished she had handled that moment with Eric (and later with the guys) with more grace. Eric blindsided her - even if he was respectful, he still blindsided her) and she was left to her own devices to handle the situation.

I believe I've heard that lawyers are trained to ask questions for which they know the answers already so that they're not surprised in court. This wasn't court, but she was surprised.

by Sponsored content

Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion

Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 Spoilers & Sleuthing - Discussion