Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 4 - Mon June 2/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

murasaki1393 wrote:

umngirl wrote:I just adore Brian.

Ditto!..i love him more and more....'i have zero game when it comes to girls'...Adorb!  

He has melted my heart!! He is adorable!!

jcrbil wrote:Though Andi is no doubt a great ADA and was willing to be the bachelorette, I do think that she's not good with spontaneity - Eric went "off script" and Andi, being tired and maybe even hungry, did not react with grace.  I'm reasonably certain that once filming stopped and she reflected she wished she had handled that moment with Eric (and later with the guys) with more grace.  Eric blindsided her - even if he was respectful, he still blindsided her) and she was left to her own devices to handle the situation.

I believe I've heard that lawyers are trained to ask questions for which they know the answers already so that they're not surprised in court.  This wasn't court, but she was surprised.

In other words, she looked like an idiot.

eusebeia wrote:Since the season is dedicated to Eric, can we expect to hear his name mentioned ever again?

At the Men Tell All. Too bad the show cut out their reaction of when Eric left. You know there's a reason the Rose Ceremony was cut.

livlafluv1 wrote:"I've yet to find a flaw in Marcus" foreshadowing perhaps 

So, is she looking for one? Humm

Maggenzm wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

umngirl wrote:I just adore Brian.

Ditto!..i love him more and more....'i have zero game when it comes to girls'...Adorb!  

He has melted my heart!! He is adorable!!

Count me in on Team Brian! Fun, athletic, sweet...  

jcrbil wrote:Though Andi is no doubt a great ADA and was willing to be the bachelorette, I do think that she's not good with spontaneity - Eric went "off script" and Andi, being tired and maybe even hungry, did not react with grace.  I'm reasonably certain that once filming stopped and she reflected she wished she had handled that moment with Eric (and later with the guys) with more grace.  Eric blindsided her - even if he was respectful, he still blindsided her) and she was left to her own devices to handle the situation.

I believe I've heard that lawyers are trained to ask questions for which they know the answers already so that they're not surprised in court.  This wasn't court, but she was surprised.

Agreed as I see it in line with her apparent difficulty when she is placed in situations in which she feels powerless. Often times when we are caught off guard and feel criticized/invalidated, feelings of inadequacy/shame are triggered and we respond with what I call a "shame attack" which resembles rage but in truth is the acting out of those feelings of inadequacy. When that happens there is an obvious over-reaction and it's almost as if we go into a trance no longer grounded in reality thereby precluding our ability to hear what is being said in the hear and now. While I clearly can't say for certain whether that was going on with Andi, I would wonder.

\"relaxing wrote: Marcus on the other hand makes me :eyesigh: despite doing the same irksome things.  He is so sweet, gentle natured and even if he's just putting on an act and his regular get the girl moves - I don't care, because it's just so darn cute to watch.  And he's the first guy I've seen ask about Andi's life, something we know she values.  Calling her "hon", asking about her mom to distract her and covering up the rose.  He seems to be getting more at ease with the cameras and he has an ease in conversation and a subtle sense of humor that are coming out along with his earnest nature.  I heart him.

 
ITA    I wonder how much of their interactions before their first date was cut.

I can't put all the blame on Andi. I really like Eric but he handled the whole conversation so badly. I'm afraid that I'd go off on anyone who told me that I was acting or they perceived me to be fake around them. Having said that I don't think he meant it exactly that way and it's too bad he couldn't get it across to her. I do think she over reacted but it seems like it got to her and we all have those code words that we're sensitive to. I completely agree that she could have handled it better but that's life and she obviously regrets it. We saw that Eric also had regrets at the way the conversation went. I have to think that a producer pushed him to confront her because I thought that things were better after the GD conversation although I don't think they were ever going to get on the same page. It's true that in a normal situation they'd have talked about it at the MTA and it wouldn't have been a big deal but because of what happened it seems worse.

I liked Dylan's date but it was overshadowed by him wanting to and later talking to her about his family tragedies. I really like him but am not so sure he's ready for this. I hope he meets a nice girl when the time's right.  The GD was pretty good. Loved watching the women whup their butts. Marquel especially cracked me up in the smack talking. Brian's such a sweetie. Glad he got a do-over later on. I finally saw the chemistry with Nick. Wow.

I enjoyed Marcus' date except I'd never in a million years go over the side of that building. I don't care how cute & hot he is.     The rest of the date was nice but wish he'd rein it in a little.

I liked that they didn't show the RC. It was probably necessary to to what they did since they showed him leaving & couldn't leave it like that. Still so sad about Eric. He was such a sweet guy who really shouldn't have been on this silly show.   

sanlee088 wrote:  

I'm trying to catch up, but this post put the biggest smile on my face.   

The show cut the Rose Ceremony to cover the guys' butts, due to their reaction to Eric.

Eric said what he felt and if he were alive, the BachNation would be bashing him as they usually do.

nannymargie wrote:

missfire1977 wrote:

eusebeia wrote:Did Marcus really say he hadn't dated in 3 years because he was traumatized by his last breakup? What is it with these guys--first Josh, now Marcus?  Are we supposed to believe this?  Did producers tell them to say this?  Why?

I don't know about Marcus but I believe that about Josh.  I say this because he has talked about this with one of his co workers.  I've known about this since before the season started.  She told me he's EXTREMELY picky looking for the PERFECT woman.  

I know there is no such thing as a perfect woman or person for that matter. But for Josh maybe Andi is perfect for him.

Maybe. What I don't get is that others saying it is considered otherwise.

on the GD: