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Post by docnash14 Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:25 pm

MiaHawk wrote:I think Arie needs to find a nice woman who can fit into his life as a driver.  He travels a lot! A teacher would be flexible to travel with him in the summer if she gets to missing him. Other flexible careers would work, and I think he has to be really honest about what his schedule is like.  They would be marrying him and his lifestyle. The women need to be very honest with him about this as well.  I believe it is his traveling for work that has made it very difficult for him to maintain a longterm relationship. Then, because of that, he has dated more women but for shorter time periods.  Then all of a sudden he is labeled as a player.  The guy actually is home alone on many Fri and Sat nites (or so I've been told by those more in the know than myself).  He hangs with Bastian!, his cute dog!

I think that Arie is a guy who has god given charisma. He is nice to everyone. He is friendly to everyone. And young women confuse his natural wit and charm as him hitting on them (because they project their lust onto him).  He is funny and disarming and makes people feel at ease.  They open up, or get their hopes up, and then feel a big let down when he doesn't return their romantic feelings.  Some people are born "flirts", it doesn't mean they have low morals or are sleeping around every nite.

Now, I'm not saying Arie is an angel, but being alone on the road does give him a lot of time for introspection.  He sees other drivers at the track with wife and kids, etc.  we have all found that being busy can distract us from our longterm goals, anything from weight loss to finding a mate.  At least Arie seems like he has gotten over his first tv experience and now realizes he wants to bring focus back onto that aspect of his life.

I know single people in their 40s.  It gets harder to meet people as you age, IMO.  Then, you can settle into a routine and not want to deal with the rejection or potential heartbreak.  So, you just carry on thinking, maybe one day.  It takes courage to put yourself out there actively.  I think Arie feels that the show would be time effective for him, to meet 25 potential women in a short period of time.  Of course, 5 of them will be incompatible from the start, 5 will be duds, 5 will be drama queens, etc, etc.  but maybe, just maybe, he will find one good match.  

Very well said, Mia! You certainly seem to have captured the essence of Arie. And I agree that his schedule is certainly the tricky part in the equation. In fact, I recall his expressing concern early on to Emily about how the demands of his schedule might impact their relationship. That being said, as you indicated, it is do-able along as there is mutual honesty and willingness for flexibility. A teacher makes sense, albeit a teacher's summer is no longer the length it once was.

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Post by MiaHawk Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:37 pm

docnash14 wrote:
MiaHawk wrote:I think Arie needs to find a nice woman who can fit into his life as a driver.  He travels a lot! A teacher would be flexible to travel with him in the summer if she gets to missing him. Other flexible careers would work, and I think he has to be really honest about what his schedule is like.  They would be marrying him and his lifestyle. The women need to be very honest with him about this as well.  I believe it is his traveling for work that has made it very difficult for him to maintain a longterm relationship. Then, because of that, he has dated more women but for shorter time periods.  Then all of a sudden he is labeled as a player.  The guy actually is home alone on many Fri and Sat nites (or so I've been told by those more in the know than myself).  He hangs with Bastian!, his cute dog!

I think that Arie is a guy who has god given charisma. He is nice to everyone. He is friendly to everyone. And young women confuse his natural wit and charm as him hitting on them (because they project their lust onto him).  He is funny and disarming and makes people feel at ease.  They open up, or get their hopes up, and then feel a big let down when he doesn't return their romantic feelings.  Some people are born "flirts", it doesn't mean they have low morals or are sleeping around every nite.

Now, I'm not saying Arie is an angel, but being alone on the road does give him a lot of time for introspection.  He sees other drivers at the track with wife and kids, etc.  we have all found that being busy can distract us from our longterm goals, anything from weight loss to finding a mate.  At least Arie seems like he has gotten over his first tv experience and now realizes he wants to bring focus back onto that aspect of his life.

I know single people in their 40s.  It gets harder to meet people as you age, IMO.  Then, you can settle into a routine and not want to deal with the rejection or potential heartbreak.  So, you just carry on thinking, maybe one day.  It takes courage to put yourself out there actively.  I think Arie feels that the show would be time effective for him, to meet 25 potential women in a short period of time.  Of course, 5 of them will be incompatible from the start, 5 will be duds, 5 will be drama queens, etc, etc.  but maybe, just maybe, he will find one good match.  

Very well said, Mia!  You certainly seem to have captured the essence of Arie. And  I agree that his schedule is certainly the tricky part in the equation.  In fact, I recall his expressing concern early on to Emily about how the demands of his schedule might impact their relationship.  That being said, as you indicated, it is do-able along as there is mutual honesty and willingness for flexibility.  A teacher makes sense, albeit a teacher's summer is no longer the length it once was.



Doc, I have been enamored with Arie from the first moments we saw him on Emily's season. And it is with total honesty that I say, there have been many handsome men on this franchise over the years, but Arie has the X factor that makes him stand above the rest for me. It is his personality that is so warm, witty, goofy, humble, kind, and sweet that seals the deal. Then add to that the sex appeal and romancing skills...sigh!

So yeah, I am a huge supporter of his quest to find love cuz I think he is a great catch. I think it is sad that people only focus on the rumors or bad choices he may have made along the way. Nobody is without flaws or mistakes in life. How Arie treats people is what will always allow me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He treats people with kindness and respect. I said about Arie during Emily's season that he showed humanity, compassion, and vulnerabilty. I really couldn't ask for much more than that from a contestant or a lead.
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Post by docnash14 Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:47 pm

MiaHawk wrote:
docnash14 wrote:
MiaHawk wrote:I think Arie needs to find a nice woman who can fit into his life as a driver.  He travels a lot! A teacher would be flexible to travel with him in the summer if she gets to missing him. Other flexible careers would work, and I think he has to be really honest about what his schedule is like.  They would be marrying him and his lifestyle. The women need to be very honest with him about this as well.  I believe it is his traveling for work that has made it very difficult for him to maintain a longterm relationship. Then, because of that, he has dated more women but for shorter time periods.  Then all of a sudden he is labeled as a player.  The guy actually is home alone on many Fri and Sat nites (or so I've been told by those more in the know than myself).  He hangs with Bastian!, his cute dog!

I think that Arie is a guy who has god given charisma. He is nice to everyone. He is friendly to everyone. And young women confuse his natural wit and charm as him hitting on them (because they project their lust onto him).  He is funny and disarming and makes people feel at ease.  They open up, or get their hopes up, and then feel a big let down when he doesn't return their romantic feelings.  Some people are born "flirts", it doesn't mean they have low morals or are sleeping around every nite.

Now, I'm not saying Arie is an angel, but being alone on the road does give him a lot of time for introspection.  He sees other drivers at the track with wife and kids, etc.  we have all found that being busy can distract us from our longterm goals, anything from weight loss to finding a mate.  At least Arie seems like he has gotten over his first tv experience and now realizes he wants to bring focus back onto that aspect of his life.

I know single people in their 40s.  It gets harder to meet people as you age, IMO.  Then, you can settle into a routine and not want to deal with the rejection or potential heartbreak.  So, you just carry on thinking, maybe one day.  It takes courage to put yourself out there actively.  I think Arie feels that the show would be time effective for him, to meet 25 potential women in a short period of time.  Of course, 5 of them will be incompatible from the start, 5 will be duds, 5 will be drama queens, etc, etc.  but maybe, just maybe, he will find one good match.  

Very well said, Mia!  You certainly seem to have captured the essence of Arie. And  I agree that his schedule is certainly the tricky part in the equation.  In fact, I recall his expressing concern early on to Emily about how the demands of his schedule might impact their relationship.  That being said, as you indicated, it is do-able along as there is mutual honesty and willingness for flexibility.  A teacher makes sense, albeit a teacher's summer is no longer the length it once was.



Doc, I have been enamored with Arie from the first moments we saw him on Emily's season.  And it is with total honesty that I say, there have been many handsome men on this franchise over the years, but Arie has the X factor that makes him stand above the rest for me.  It is his personality that is so warm, witty, goofy, humble, kind, and sweet that seals the deal.  Then add to that the sex appeal and romancing skills...sigh!  

So yeah, I am a huge supporter of his quest to find love cuz I think he is a great catch.  I think it is sad that people only focus on the rumors or bad choices he may have made along the way.  Nobody is without flaws or mistakes in life.  How Arie treats people is what will always allow me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He treats people with kindness and respect.  I said about Arie during Emily's season that he showed humanity, compassion, and vulnerabilty.  I really couldn't ask for much more than that from a contestant or a lead.
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I am right with you in your support of Arie as the next bachelor. I loved him on Emily's season and he will always be one of my favorite contestants.

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Post by GrahamGal Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:40 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote:I have always liked Arie. I would prefer Chris to be the bachelor over Arie, but I would watch both of them.  I am surprised they didn't have Arie at the ATFR with Chris to judge reactions to both.

I think the lack of reception Chris got at the ATFR made them wonder if maybe he was the wrong choice and really step up with Arie. I like Chris, but not sure of he would make a great lead.


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Post by isittrue Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:42 pm

I saw on-line somewhere that Chris has been dropping broad hints that the job is his and Andi and Cody are supporting on SM as well.

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Post by albean99 Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:56 pm

isittrue wrote:I saw on-line somewhere that Chris has been dropping broad hints that the job is his and Andi and Cody are supporting on SM as well.  

I believe Arie also thought it was his when they picked Sean. Unless Chris has signed a contract it's not a sure thing.


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Post by jlccaz Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:56 pm

Maybe it's nothing more than money.  Playing one off of the other as the negotiations wrap up.  ) :
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Post by docnash14 Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:00 pm

GrahamGal wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:I have always liked Arie. I would prefer Chris to be the bachelor over Arie, but I would watch both of them.  I am surprised they didn't have Arie at the ATFR with Chris to judge reactions to both.

I think the lack of reception Chris got at the ATFR made them wonder if maybe he was the wrong choice and really step up with Arie.  I like Chris, but not sure of he would make a great lead.

My sentiments exactly, although there have been times that I got the sense that Chris was really the hot-headed one not Josh.

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Post by docnash14 Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:04 pm

isittrue wrote:I saw on-line somewhere that Chris has been dropping broad hints that the job is his and Andi and Cody are supporting on SM as well.  

CH sure made it seem that way with the wink wink he gave Chris during ATFR. But, of course, that means next to nothing given it was CH.

Albean, I have always wondered about Blondie Gal's intel (especially given her track record) that Arie was the next Bachelor given subsequent reports that Sean had it in the bag much earlier than Fleiss let on.

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Post by GuardianAngel Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:06 pm

jlccaz wrote:Maybe it's nothing more than money.  Playing one off of the other as the negotiations wrap up.  ) :

Isn't that the whole idea for blatently promoting two or three in the mix. (Except when Jake was TB, he would have done it for free. Poor Jake.  laugh out loud )
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Post by GrahamGal Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:24 pm

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jlccaz wrote:Maybe it's nothing more than money.  Playing one off of the other as the negotiations wrap up.  ) :

Isn't that the whole idea for blatently promoting two or three in the mix. (Except when Jake was TB, he would have done it for free. Poor Jake.  laugh out loud )

Did Jake ever go back to being a pilot after his "On the Wings of Love" season?  I know he did BP2 and that show H8ers (or whatever it was called) where a hater fan confronted a D list celebrity.


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Post by GuardianAngel Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:41 pm

GrahamGal wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
jlccaz wrote:Maybe it's nothing more than money.  Playing one off of the other as the negotiations wrap up.  ) :

Isn't that the whole idea for blatently promoting two or three in the mix. (Except when Jake was TB, he would have done it for free. Poor Jake.  laugh out loud )

Did Jake ever go back to being a pilot after his "On the Wings of Love" season?  I know he did BP2 and that show H8ers (or whatever it was called) where a hater fan confronted a D list celebrity.

I think so. He doesn't tweet much. I do recall seeing the occasional fan pic with him in his pilot's uniform.
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