Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - General Discussion - *Spoilers*

GrahamGal wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

jlccaz wrote:Maybe it's nothing more than money.  Playing one off of the other as the negotiations wrap up.  ) :

Isn't that the whole idea for blatently promoting two or three in the mix. (Except when Jake was TB, he would have done it for free. Poor Jake.   )

Did Jake ever go back to being a pilot after his "On the Wings of Love" season?  I know he did BP2 and that show H8ers (or whatever it was called) where a hater fan confronted a D list celebrity.

Yes. He did both. I believe he doesn't now and is focused on real estate? Don't know why I even know that! LOL

Brad had 'help' during his time as Bachelor and it didn't help and it won't help Arie either.  This show isn't set up for what he is claiming he wants.  He needs to get real, if he's claiming he wants to seriously find a long term relationship/wife.

mtnlvr55 wrote:

atem wrote:

mtnlvr55 wrote:If Arie had written his column for Sean earlier I might believe it. Right now its too little too late. YUCK!

Him wanting to be the Bachelor makes me believe it's a delusional column more than anything.

I think you understood my point   If he really was a changed man, he would have written about it earlier, either via Twitter(with a link) or some other means. He is using Sean to campaign for Bachelor and for some reason Sean is buying it....

Exactly.  But, he knows how to play the spiel well though. Strike one, he fell for Emily, strike two, he had a 'let's play for the cameras' relationship with Courtney and strike three is this continuing of it.  People are already forgetting what the lead does on this show. I guess it's OK as long as Arie is lying, having sex with F3/F2 and dumping/humiliating them on national tv afterwards.

atem wrote:

mtnlvr55 wrote:

atem wrote:

Him wanting to be the Bachelor makes me believe it's a delusional column more than anything.

I think you understood my point   If he really was a changed man, he would have written about it earlier, either via Twitter(with a link) or some other means. He is using Sean to campaign for Bachelor and for some reason Sean is buying it....

Exactly.  But, he knows how to play the spiel well though. Strike one, he fell for Emily, strike two, he had a 'let's play for the cameras' relationship with Courtney and strike three is this continuing of it.  People are already forgetting what the lead does on this show. I guess it's OK as long as Arie is lying, having sex with F3/F2 and dumping/humiliating them on national tv afterwards.

I read Arie's blog and don't think he ever claimed to be "a changed man". He wrote an essay about two experiences he had while traveling for work. The first part explained how a preacher helped him out without any expectation of being paid. He simply wanted to share with Arie a piece of his own Christian life (a moring at church) and then showed Arie how he lives out that Christian belief by doing Arie a great service by getting him church goers to help him pack up his equipment. Arie basically said that this experience had an effect on him, made him see faith with a new perspective. Faith is something you just don't talk about or study, it is something that you see in actions. Growing up, I do not think Arie's family was religious, so Arie may have had a different concept in his mind of what it means to be deeply rooted in one's faith. It might be that he had previously thought religion was overbearing, esoteric, or fake, and this day he saw religion differently. When the preacher offered him the tattered bible he was touched by the gesture, and instead of throwing it in the trash at his next stop e decided that he would read passages from time to time during his travels. There is a reason that hotels used to always supply a hible in each room. Because, for some, the bible was the foundation of their faith, and it made them feel grounded no matter how far from home they were. It doesn't make Arie a hiblical scholar or a born again Christian to pick up a book, read passages, and reflect on them. People do it all the time, whenever they read fiction or non fiction. Reading makes you think, ponder, explore, and, yes, possibly change in ways.


The second part of the story was about the kind waitess who had a conversation with him when he was exhausted and lonely from driving 13 hours straight through the night. She appeared to recognize him but did not interact with him as a celebrity. She did not assume things about him, fan girl him, or ask him about the Bachelor. Instead they spoke like two regular people, one on one, and he appreciated that. He appreciated how she saw him, as an individual man who walked into the restaurant in need of coffee, food, and some human kindness. I think because it was such a normal, unglamorous setting that Arie reflected upon his feelings. There he was, tired and lonely, no clattering around him, no distractions, and he had a genuinely nice interaction with the waitress that somehow reminded him that he does want to meet a woman and make a life together. We don't know what the spoke about that day, but the waitress walked away with the impression that Arie is a humble guy. She saw the real Arie, not the camera ready, microphone in face, well dressed tv personality that shewas probably expecting. The real Arie made a good impression on her and she said some nice things to him on FB. Their interaction appears to have touched both of them. What is so wrong with that or in sharing that in a blog?

Arie never claimed to be a "changed man" whatever that is. What Arie simply did was point out 2 relatively normal scenarios that made him stop and think about himself, his faith or lack thereof, his loneliness, his desire to get married, his busy career that he used as a distraction from his hurt when Emily rejected him, and how he would now like to put effort into finding his special someone. Arie never claimed that he was changed, in fact, he actually states that he has finally felt like the Arie he was before he went onto Emily's show. Of course being on Emily's season affected him, for good and for bad. That's life, it changes us, little by little. Like Earth we are constantly being shaped by the winds and the rains, the shifting sands and the inhabitants. We're all "changing" whether we know it or not, speak of it or not.

Great post Mia.   

I don't judge others who have had relationships that didn't work out. Maybe at the time it was the right thing to do. On the outside, there may be opinions that it will never work out. That's up the two individuals involved and if it doesn't work out, it's learning experience for them. There's nothing wrong with him being so hurt during Emily's season or hooking up with Courtney or anyone else. We all grow and learn from our mistakes, or our life experiences and IMO we should always be reflecting on the positive of challenging situations. Arie has done just that by writing this guest blog for Sean.

If Arie didn't have the relationships one night stands or whatever he had, it might not have led him to this point, where he feels the time is right to settle down with the love of his life.

Sometimes only the negative is imbedded in ones mind from reading rag mags, but at the same time they are not followed on a regular basis, so they know nothing else about them.

What an awesome post, MiaHawk...you are right on !!   

Chloe, any more rumbling about who the next lead will be? Do you think it's Chris's if he wants it, with Arie as a backup?

^I think so. From what I've been told Chris has been the 1st pick all along. Marquel, (and after Marquel officially backed out) Arie were/are just the alternates(the "other option").... I fully expect it to be Chris. I also don't trust MF or Milsy that they really are undecided. IMO, the decision probably has been made already(behind closed doors).

Arie never claimed that he was changed, in fact, he actually states that he has finally felt like the Arie he was before he went onto Emily's show. Of course being on Emily's season affected him, for good and for bad.

Awesome post Mia.   

chloep wrote:^I think so. From what I've been told Chris has been the 1st pick all along. Marquel, (and after Marquel officially backed out) Arie were/are just the alternates(the "other option").... I fully expect it to be Chris. I also don't trust MF or Milsy that they really are undecided. IMO, the decision probably has been made already(behind closed doors).

I have never believed them when they ask fans for their opinions……we all know they don't care what we think!   

I am assuming it will be announced at the end of BIP? I guess if there is no reunion or finale show, they could have a few minute sit down with CH, announcing the new lead.

Before I sleep, (it's 6am here it's way, way past my dead time)

It is very, very interesting to note that Sean allowed Arie then Nick to post in his blog.

Did y 'all see the poll in his blog? Arie, Nick and Chris!

Hmmmm....   

Nick is not int the running. He has never been in the running. Nick is not going to be the Bachelor. Period.   
Sean reached out to him right after the finale, before Arie's post even came along.
Sean's blog is not ABC affiliated. (it is actually Harper Collin's affiliated.)