Bachelorette 10 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

pavalygurl wrote:I have a feeling all of the F4 may be sequestered and that none of them has returned home yet.

I agree.
Of all the f4 I feel like Josh is definitely in the F3. But 2 of the rest could be there as well. I don't think any of them are home yet.

*Crosspost with Nick Thread*

nd4reality wrote:We are just speculating and figuring out what has been spoiled vs what is known. In the history of the show, no contestant has had back to back 1on1s. If Nick got a 1on1 in ep6 (already his second 1on1) and SQT time (like Andi did on JuanPs season) in ep7, then that would be a first.
Just saying. He could have just got the GR without SQT time of course. We have heard time and time again that it is the producers that fix the dates and who goes on them etc.

The picture of JJ is near the gondola type boats in venice which matches with a date description. The crew does ITMs all the time of the contestants without the lead. Plus one person saw him with Andi because the described it as a 1on1 date. This could all be wrong and RS right. Till we know more I am going with RS is wrong because we have evidence.

so.it just occured to me that i need to take a look of Chres Madeira date..since its involving yacht-boat surrounding, with other guys watching them. So in my mind i figure the JJ pick could be from the moment of him 'watching' Andi left with another guy   

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x130x6x_desiree-and-chris-full-season-part-5_lifestyle  (credit: Aunties_Love)

At first i thought i remember Drew on the dock background with his PI. but i proven to be wrong ...check out arund 5:40 and 6:14. So id tend to think for guys not having the date, they would have their PI filmed at their hotel.

That leads to my temporary conclusion that the date is either JJ on his 1on1 or him in the GD.



Did anyone already sleuth /know whether this back setting, Punta Della Dogana (https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t2288p828-bachelorette-10-filming-schedule-spoilers-sleuthing-discussion#598277)  is really a port of gondola ride? . TIA (in my logic, if yes, then most likely JJ was on that 1-1 date, but if not, then perhaps the pic is from Ep.6 GD)

ETA.comment from britt :

brittany4400 wrote:Are those boats not all over venice though? I thought that was basically the only transportation there? Unless the group date happened some place else, I am still gonna say there is a possibly this is part of a group date or outside a hotel they are staying at.

silly me..i forgot that Venice is all about water   . Somehow i agree with britt.(plus..the small portion of the building on the left--barey seen- does look like a hotel's entrance)..so..IDK what to think anymore.. 

The Bridge of Sighs and Museo di Palazzo Ducale (Ornate Gothic-Renaissance palace with rooms once used by Venice's rulers, prisons & an armoury) where pehaps the lie detector took place are located near to each other. Punta della Dogana is across the canal and could be a port for gondola rides. Maybe someone who has visited Venice could weigh in.

richmondrose wrote:The Bridge of Sighs and Museo di Palazzo Ducale (Ornate Gothic-Renaissance palace with rooms once used by Venice's rulers, prisons & an armoury) where pehaps the lie detector took place are located near to each other.  Punta della Dogana is across the canal and could be a port for gondola rides. Maybe someone who has visited Venice could weigh in.

  to everything you posted.
The palace is also known as Doges Palace and houses the dungeon Casanova was held in.
You can also cross over using Academia Bridge.
Gondola stops are all over the place. Vaporettas and water taxis also cross over via the Grand Canal on both sides of Dorsoduo ( where Punta Della Dogana is located).

notarose wrote:

richmondrose wrote:The Bridge of Sighs and Museo di Palazzo Ducale (Ornate Gothic-Renaissance palace with rooms once used by Venice's rulers, prisons & an armoury) where pehaps the lie detector took place are located near to each other.  Punta della Dogana is across the canal and could be a port for gondola rides. Maybe someone who has visited Venice could weigh in.

  to everything you posted.
The palace is also known as Doges Palace and houses the dungeon Casanova was held in.  
You can also cross over using Academia Bridge.  
Gondola stops are all over the place.  Vaporettas and water taxis also cross over via the Grand Canal on both sides of Dorsoduo ( where Punta Della Dogana is located).

TY for the insight, guys!.. 

i guess what give me pause to say that the pic is from JJ 1-1 date is:
1. yes,,,JJ messy look and not so proper outfit for a romantic date,   2.The boat near him is a big boat suit more for a GD transportation, not the supposedtoberomantic-onlythe2ofyou gondola type ride   

murasaki1393 wrote:

notarose wrote:

richmondrose wrote:The Bridge of Sighs and Museo di Palazzo Ducale (Ornate Gothic-Renaissance palace with rooms once used by Venice's rulers, prisons & an armoury) where pehaps the lie detector took place are located near to each other.  Punta della Dogana is across the canal and could be a port for gondola rides. Maybe someone who has visited Venice could weigh in.

  to everything you posted.
The palace is also known as Doges Palace and houses the dungeon Casanova was held in.  
You can also cross over using Academia Bridge.  
Gondola stops are all over the place.  Vaporettas and water taxis also cross over via the Grand Canal on both sides of Dorsoduo ( where Punta Della Dogana is located).

TY for the insight, guys!.. 

i guess what give me pause to say that the pic is from JJ 1-1 date is:
1. yes,,,JJ messy look and not so proper outfit for a romantic date,   2.The boat near him is a big boat suit more for a GD transportation, not the supposedtoberomantic-onlythe2ofyou gondola type ride   

I have no idea if it's a group or 1-1 date but do know that the part of Venice in which this pic was taken is a lot quieter than the main tourist areas. It has some small winding streets with very narrow canals and intimate cafés plus vegetable & flower market boats dependent on time of day/season.

Gondola rides are fun during the day but I think they are only really romantic at night.

ETA. from RR and NR posts i would think this could be from the moment JJ was about to get on a boat heading to that GD place (perhaps its their hotel located in this ITM location).
as for a girl saying a sighting of JJ with Andi..nbd. arent all of the guys supposed to have a lil alone time with the lead in GD setting?.

JordynRoses wrote:here is a link to the pic and twitter conversation

@CarlosSantanaZz I really would appreciate it if you can identify the guy. Maybe these new pictures help. Thank you!
pic.twitter.com/yJZzObpPUS

the link to pic is not working.

I take a look at this guy's TH. he did say he is not really sure.
tbh, i think this could be Nick with his 'recent' dark hair (he was not in the past). From afar, Josh and Him could look similar IMO. SCMIIW the dancing FS date contestant most likely (going with past trend) not end up as F1, often as the F3, right?

Someone tweet that girl back and ask her for more details LOL.

notarose wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

notarose wrote:

richmondrose wrote:The Bridge of Sighs and Museo di Palazzo Ducale (Ornate Gothic-Renaissance palace with rooms once used by Venice's rulers, prisons & an armoury) where pehaps the lie detector took place are located near to each other.  Punta della Dogana is across the canal and could be a port for gondola rides. Maybe someone who has visited Venice could weigh in.

  to everything you posted.
The palace is also known as Doges Palace and houses the dungeon Casanova was held in.  
You can also cross over using Academia Bridge.  
Gondola stops are all over the place.  Vaporettas and water taxis also cross over via the Grand Canal on both sides of Dorsoduo ( where Punta Della Dogana is located).

TY for the insight, guys!.. 

i guess what give me pause to say that the pic is from JJ 1-1 date is:
1. yes,,,JJ messy look and not so proper outfit for a romantic date,   2.The boat near him is a big boat suit more for a GD transportation, not the supposedtoberomantic-onlythe2ofyou gondola type ride   

I have no idea if it's a group or 1-1 date but do know that the part of Venice in which this pic was taken is a lot quieter than the main tourist areas.  It has some small winding streets with very narrow canals and intimate cafés plus vegetable & flower market boats dependent on time of day/season.

Gondola rides are fun during the day but I think they are only really romantic at night.

Not so much a romantic as just the fact that its a 1on1. He looks like he just rolled out of bed... A hoodie with a scarf    JJ could just be that laid back guy who doesn't care though. If it was a 1on1 I guess that explain why he was eliminated. 
As far as the sighting in DR, I think it could be any of the F3. To me they all could pass for dark hair, ESP depending on the distance and amount of light.

Murasaki ... it's been quite a while since I went to Venice; but I don't recall there being gondola ports. They are everywhere. There are some places where they hang out near the water taxi's, like St. Mark's Square. But IIRC, you can catch a gondola pretty much from anywhere on the larger canals.

Is it of sleuthing interest where they stayed in Venice? It was the Abano Grand Hotel.