*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions #2

JBF wrote:Yeah... but they are emphasizing it TOO much. You know how they fib to us. I do think he and F1 have some "problems" post show since SOME of Pookie's... excuse me, Andi's... talk relates to him getting in better touch with his "feelings" and the feelings of women.

Oh, I think he is very sensitive to women's feelings - in my opinion, overly so and that's what gets him into trouble. He gets upset when they are upset so I think his strategy is to get them un-upset as quickly as possible with mollifying words such as "it's okay." Isn't working so well for him. Andi's advice to him was well-taken as she was trying to teach him simply to acknowledge their feelings - "so you are really upset with me because you don't think I have made enough of an effort to get to know you as a person."

I want to fall .. Andi
I am falling .. Clare
I am in .. Nikki

see2love wrote:

nd4reality wrote:It just so bad that JaunP is getting such a bad rap from these girls and the media. Could they be any more bitchy ? And what is with 1F talking as though he is an authority  on the subject ? Just ugh

I agree. Comments about how he says or pronounces are the worst. Just because someone cant speak or understand English well does not make them stupid. I hope he is with a strong person who will be in his corner and help him through all this.

One thing I have noticed about past casts who live tweets or blogs about the show, aside from being the most critical and judgemental, is a pervasive herd mentality. Although they know how the system works, as per editing and such; with the exception of a few, like Ashley Spivey, most of them simply follow the same script in their tweets. Personally, I do not put much weight in what they have to say, except in cases where they are giving information on behind the scene stuff.

I looked back at all the bachelor seasons since season 7 and bachelorette seasons since season 5 and no matter what order their FD came in, if their rose was called 2nd at this stage, they were the final one in each season. Tonight Clare's rose was called second.

I am not saying that the pattern can't change, but it hasn't changed in all of those seasons.

Shouldn't JP and, at least, one of the girls have had the "can you move to Miami" conversation tonight?

julychild wrote:Shouldn't JP and, at least, one of the girls have had the "can you move to Miami" conversation tonight?

yeah..but since our premise is (shifted to/still) a non-proposal ending, i dont see the necessity, (need time post-show to figuring out then the next step will be moving together. )

in Chres case, from D+H we found out that the convo moving to Seattle actually took place in Madeira(or HTD?). yet , they need them to retake/ `fake` it, if you will )  to be aired on the FD. Wonky.... So in Jpab case, we`ll never know as well  ...unless JP and his F1 also publish such details in a book  

Hi Mura! I just wanted to say hi before I signed out for the night. I'm so mad at the producers and their prodding Andi just to get back at Jp tonight that I'm not going to say alot. It's wouldn't be nice! LOL I'll weigh in tomorrow!

mprssdbyu wrote:Hi Mura! I just wanted to say hi before I signed out for the night. I'm so mad at the producers and their prodding Andi just to get back at Jp tonight that I'm not going to say alot. It's wouldn't be nice! LOL I'll weigh in tomorrow!

Hi mp!!... :WAVEY: . yes..you can save your venting and rant for tomorrow!!...LOL....    

If the promos keep insinuating that Juan leaves this show alone, then we can rest assured that he chooses somebody. Since both gals are in the previews, The Battle can continue here, debating which is F1. (It is just hard for me to see Nikki engaged to him after her buddy carried on, not to mention all of his scenes with Clare.)

I am totally D-O-N-E with the promos. They hyped last night's episode as if something "horribly went wrong in the fantasy suite". The only thing that went wrong was a casual comment about Clare getting an overnight and too much Juan talk about Juan. The whole episode was totally STUPID and there is a half hour of my life that I demand ABC returning to me!

AshLee was mad at Sean for fibbing that there was "nothing" between him and Lindsay and his future bride, just to keep her there. No doubt the handlers told him to say that. She waited until WTA to bring it up, by which time he probably forgot all about it... or maybe he didn't since he had guilt all over his face. Yet what difference did it make after so many months and the show done and over with?

Ditto this season. Juan probably asked Elan, Peter or somebody "What will we talk about in the overnight so she doesn't suspect that I plan to dump her?" "Talk about yourself." Of course, the handler(s) knew Andi well enough that she wasn't going to be successfully smokescreened that way.

On another note...

murasaki1393 wrote:JBF, i really2 think you should get a patent for your theory on little vs large critters in HTDs. ..LOL..

Just watched Nikki's hometown since it is the only one I can see on youtube. They have an interesting edit of cows peacefully standing in a field, looking happy and contented, then... cut!... a cook chopping up meat for the grill. This looks like some foreshadow that Nikki just might "fry" Juan's carcass. Ha ha!

Already my mind has that burning shot of a praying mantis consuming an ENTIRE lizard during Andi's interrogation of Juan.

julychild wrote:Shouldn't JP and, at least, one of the girls have had the "can you move to Miami" conversation tonight?

I thought I heard JP and Nikki talking about the future, about her being able to take the state nurse exam in FL?

JBF wrote:If the promos keep insinuating that Juan leaves this show alone, then we can rest assured that he chooses somebody. Since both gals are in the previews, The Battle can continue here, debating which is F1. (It is just hard for me to see Nikki engaged to him after her buddy carried on, not to mention all of his scenes with Clare.)

I am totally D-O-N-E with the promos. They hyped last night's episode as if something "horribly went wrong in the fantasy suite". The only thing that went wrong was a casual comment about Clare getting an overnight and too much Juan talk about Juan. The whole episode was totally STUPID and there is a half hour of my life that I demand ABC returning to me!

AshLee was mad at Sean for fibbing that there was "nothing" between him and Lindsay and his future bride, just to keep her there. No doubt the handlers told him to say that. She waited until WTA to bring it up, by which time he probably forgot all about it... or maybe he didn't since he had guilt all over his face. Yet what difference did it make after so many months and the show done and over with?

Ditto this season. Juan probably asked Elan, Peter or somebody "What will we talk about in the overnight so she doesn't suspect that I plan to dump her?" "Talk about yourself." Of course, the handler(s) knew Andi well enough that she wasn't going to be successfully smokescreened that way.

On another note...

murasaki1393 wrote:JBF, i really2 think you should get a patent for your theory on little vs large critters in HTDs. ..LOL..

Just watched Nikki's hometown since it is the only one I can see on youtube. They have an interesting edit of cows peacefully standing in a field, looking happy and contented, then... cut!... a cook chopping up meat for the grill. This looks like some foreshadow that Nikki just might "fry" Juan's carcass. Ha ha!

Already my mind has that burning shot of a praying mantis consuming an ENTIRE lizard during Andi's interrogation of Juan.

I think this is a real possibility! I can see JP asking how to handle the night since I think he knew that he was sending her home and I can see TPTB telling him to talk about himself. I'm sure JP was then told to say the standard "Everything went great" when Chris Harrison asked him how everything was going. When CH asked how things were going I could tell from CH's face that he knew what was coming up with Andi. It was a COMPLETE AMBUSH of JP just for drama!!!

I must say by the EDIT..( what we have seen) Clare has seen JP up's n down the most..She knows his moods..I think with Nikki he always seems happy go lucky..yes It's been easy!..

I think maybe he did " choose" Nikki but I get this feeling maybe he didn't propose..I think Nikki would expect one..sounds like they were talking on their LCD she was telling him that he need to let go..or something like that..