Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #3

[JBF]

Yeah, but chloep, this makes it all the more fun to speculate. Did some funny business happen at FRC a.k.a. Jesse Palmer style? Or are the date stamps reflective of Nikki being F1? (Yeah... I will be surprised, but that is just lil' ol' me and my lil' ol' speculations.) Maybe he pulls a Mesnick? Way to go... with all of the games they play this final week.

[nd4reality]

^^ Time stamps can be easily altered and they have been altered in the past. Just a thought to keep in mind.

btw, a couple of things that are usually more telling(and much more reliable) than time stamps:

- the color of the water(the way light reflects on it)
- the sand/dirt
- the footprints

Which season were the timestamps doctored ?

[jjinkc]

Something is wrong with the timing.
1867 -- 10:27:17 --Clare in boat
1893 -- 10:39:36 -- Clare getting off boat
1924 -- 10:40:11 -- Clare walking with Chris

3070 -- 10:50:37 -- Clare talking with Chris
3126 - 11:24:48 -- Clare walking with Chris ( if she is leaving why is she walking with Chris)

2189 - 12:13:05 --Nikki in boat
2220 -- 12:13:38 --Nikki walking on beach (how the darn did she get from the boat which was not docked to walking on the beach in 33 seconds?
2241 -- 12:18:02 -- Walking with Chris.

Since you can't see the bottom of the boat in the picture with Nikki and the dock is right on the beach, could the picture be from right before she gets off and walks across the short dock onto the sand? I could see that taking about 30 seconds.
As far as the time for Clare, could it be JPab started freaking out a little because he was going to send her home and he knew how much it would hurt her, and he needed some time to collect himself? Producer pep talk, even? Maybe CH was having to stall a little with Clare.
These are my best guesses about the pics but one thing I feel is certain, JPab was probably a mess because of what had to do. He was shedding tears over matter of time girls because he had to hurt them, I can imagine how hard it was for him to turn down one, maybe two, women who said they loved him and I'm sure he cared about.

[JBF]

Why do we have 3000 numbers with Clare and 2000 numbers with Nikki from an earlier time period? Multiple cameras?

[chi-girl]

Any possibility of two days?

Day 1:
1867 -- 10:27:17 --Clare in boat
1893 -- 10:39:36 -- Clare getting off boat
1924 -- 10:40:11 -- Clare walking with Chris

2189 - 12:13:05 --Nikki in boat
2220 -- 12:13:38 --Nikki walking on beach (how the darn did she get from the boat which was not docked to walking on the beach in 33 seconds?
2241 -- 12:18:02 -- Walking with Chris.

Day 2:
3070 -- 10:50:37 -- Clare talking with Chris
3126 - 11:24:48 -- Clare walking with Chris ( if she is leaving why is she walking with Chris)

[chloep]

Something is wrong with the timing.
1867 -- 10:27:17 --Clare in boat
1893 -- 10:39:36 -- Clare getting off boat
1924 -- 10:40:11 -- Clare walking with Chris

3070 -- 10:50:37 -- Clare talking with Chris
3126 - 11:24:48 -- Clare walking with Chris ( if she is leaving why is she walking with Chris)

2189 - 12:13:05 --Nikki in boat
2220 -- 12:13:38 --Nikki walking on beach (how the darn did she get from the boat which was not docked to walking on the beach in 33 seconds?
2241 -- 12:18:02 -- Walking with Chris.

IMO,

It goes 1893(Clare arrives by boat) - 1924(Clare steps off the boat and stars walking towards CH) - 3126 (CH picks Clare up) - 1990 (CH leads Clare to the podium(/where he drops her off) ------> then we have caps of Clare walking a little bit by her own to meet JP at the FRC spot.

[notarose]

Why do we have 3000 numbers with Clare and 2000 numbers with Nikki from an earlier time period? Multiple cameras?

Could be different cameras or different days

[jlccaz]

Guys -- the photos are each dated November 12. It all fits. The boat lands on the beach almost, right next to a wooden plank (not really a dock) that is literally on the beach, and the girl walks off a bow ramp to the wooden decking that sits on the beach. Kind of like JP getting off the seaplane in Fiji. Harrison often puts the girls into the sad limos.

It's a turnaround time just about right for him to dump the first, do a quick "ees not okay to hurt people"
"eees tough" for the cameras, and face his next person.

No idea what happens between them, or where things stand now.

But my view of this sequence of photos is that it doesn't look good for Clare.

[Hotmomma]

Could the first # are just different camera?..

However the time stamps do seem to have a hour spread..maybe the last one @11:24 is just after her TmI's etc....they just threw that one in there to confuse?

I still think Nikki is the final gal...

[4health]

I am with Hotmomma….the timestamp has always determined who the F1 is….arriving first etc.  

Nikki is the last girl to the FRC but was she offered the final rose? Did she except it?  But I have to ask (just because) there is a SC of Clare with JP together (it doesn't show the FRC area)….where is the SC of Nikki with JP together….hmmmmmm

[Mommyof2]

^ Where is the SC of Clare and JP together at the FRC? That's CH walking with Clare.

[4health]

So okay….going through all of the SC's timestamps my question would be….

Clare and JP together - 10:50:37 around 10 minutes after her arrival
Clare and CH - 11:24:48 am WHY? If JP walked Clare to the ocean or boat and she is gone, why is CH with Clare an hour after the 10:50:37 SC with JP?
Then Nikki's SC on the boat is 12:13:05 half hour after CH is seen walking Clare…why is Chris even with Clare after being with JP?

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