*No Spoilers* The Bachelor Episode 10 WTA Discussions

Last question, did he fly in prior to the taping or on the day off. I just get the impression that this weekend and the days leading up to the WTA taping were not Meetup days and therefore Clare being in LA is no real evidence either way.

TIA for all your replies.

iamreal2u wrote:It does look like Clare at the far end, but where is Renee?

Knowing Renee, she's probably the one taking the photo! LOL

Maybe Clare was really there for WTA a la Courtney and it just so happens that she could also see the girls.

The spoiled folks are probably having a good laugh at our "Clare at the WTA" speculations because RS would have gloatingly come up with his explanation by now. Sorry had to throw that in - This is NOT a starting point for RS and spoiler discussions though so just ignore  my thought.

So please don't post any spoiler here.

No spoilers. Just guessing.

eversotrue wrote:Things seem to be more lenient this season though. Especially since it seems as if the show has given up on Juan Pablo. Every day, I get the feeling more and more, that JP doesn't end up with anyone. Or at least he isn't with anyone right now.

It also seems as if most of the girls really do not like him. Most of them have made snide remarks on Twitter/IG about him. Lauren mentioned the poop party to be "classy" and that Juan was "impressed" with Renee for throwing the poop back. Ha! She also said that conversation with JP was difficult and that it would of been easier with the cameras if the person was genuine and sincere. Ouch!

Women Tell All should definitely be interesting. Just in the sense tht I wonder how all the girls will interact with him and what they'll say. Fun!!

I haven't been following twitter so I didn't realize the girls were openly saying snide things about him. I find that interesting....esp when someone throws a little dried poop playfully and commented playfully about a girl who actually tried it. If it were my son, he would be in shock, too! But they were laughing and having fun so it was an in the moment thing that lasted how long? 3 minutes? I don't think JP put a great deal of effort into having conversations with the women he saw going home and had no chance of being F1. He's indicated to everyone watching the show...what he hates most is hurting someone so I think he kept it as simple as possible and let them do the talking. That's playing it the safest way he knew how. I do think it hurt him not having a strong grasp on the English language. There were many sayings "phrases" used that he just didn't have a clue how to translate and respond. I think he felt a little insecure because of that and it hurt him with some...example being Sharlene. Do I think he's a dummy? Absolutely not. In fact, he's fast on his feet...as they say. He's very perceptive and has great instincts. The language barrier will become less and less. Of that I have no doubt. Didn't someone say most of his girlfriends have all been of hispanic origin? I for one think he's going to be just fine.

I'm beginning to wonder if somehow Clare doesn't make it to FRC. I know what that Fetman guy said but it's awfully odd Clare being in LA...attending the parties/social activities of every girl that we knew/felt was going to be at WTA. Very interesting...very! I mean she's even attending the events with Kelly. If she wanted to hang out with them, I would think it would be easier to just do something with girls she was closer to in small groups. Makes me go hmmmmm.

She (Lauren) said that on IG under one of her photos. And yeah, most of the girls make snide/rude but often times true comments about him.

eversotrue wrote:She (Lauren) said that on IG under one of her photos. And yeah, most of the girls make snide/rude but often times true comments about him.

Its possibly either  :sourgrapes:  OR the actually said  in gest - the girls on this season seem to have a quirky sense of humor which some of themselves didn't get.

I think the girls could at least be friendly with each other...even Kelly. They actually were very friendly with each other all season. Not a lot of drama within the girls. Clare hanging out with the group is a bit suspect but things have not been the same this season from the very beiginning. Things have been much more lenient and chill. Plus, noone actually knows if she was at WTA. She was seen hanging with the group after but that would have been the only time they'd ALL be together, so I could see why she'd want to see them. Who knows. If Nikki could of been there, Im sure she would of also.

eversotrue wrote:Things seem to be more lenient this season though. Especially since it seems as if the show has given up on Juan Pablo. Every day, I get the feeling more and more, that JP doesn't end up with anyone. Or at least he isn't with anyone right now.

It also seems as if most of the girls really do not like him. Most of them have made snide remarks on Twitter/IG about him. Lauren mentioned the poop party to be "classy" and that Juan was "impressed" with Renee for throwing the poop back. Ha! She also said that conversation with JP was difficult and that it would of been easier with the cameras if the person was genuine and sincere. Ouch!

Women Tell All should definitely be interesting. Just in the sense tht I wonder how all the girls will interact with him and what they'll say. Fun!!

I wasn't aware that most of them were making snide remarks about him. The only other person I have noticed doing so is Kelly and I have attributed that to her sarcastic/dry wit.

People have been throwing things here and there that imply that they dont like him or see him differently now after having watched the show (in a negtive light obviously). And I really dont think they're being sarcastic but saying what they truly feel/dealt with.