Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

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I am always amazed how much work you guys do with sleuthing the SCs. However, in my opinion it is a giant leap to say Clare is the F1 based on her hair looking slightly different. Clearly, in that video, she is wearing the same shirt, necklace, and earrings as she was with her one on one with JP. The other PI of her in the white tank top is after she put on her comfy clothes. Just because we don't recognize the background doesn't automatically mean it was filmed post show.

I just don't see anything solid to indicate Clare is the F1.

Right! it's certainly no fridge-gate. I don't see anything special in wearing a braclet like the one he gave to someone else too. Nothing meanful behind that, I would just think I was just one of a bunch. Nikki's hair look the same to me

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I am always amazed how much work you guys do with sleuthing the SCs.  However, in my opinion it is a giant leap to say Clare is the F1 based on her hair looking slightly different.  Clearly, in that video, she is wearing the same shirt, necklace, and earrings as she was with her one on one with JP.  The other PI of her in the white tank top is after she put on her comfy clothes.  Just because we don't recognize the background doesn't automatically mean it was filmed post show.

I just don't see anything solid to indicate Clare is the F1.

I think part of the point is that she is VERY tanned in the ITM, locale that we can't locate and bracelet that Juan gave her.  All of that in one is the reasons why...IMO

 
And how do we know that Juan gave her a bracelet?  I missed that info somewhere.

I don't know if anyone answered the question yet but JulyChild saw that JP gave both Clare and Renee these bracelets at the HTD from BTS pictures released.

However, I still don't get how it is proven that ITM was post filming and not while they were in Miami for the HTD RC or anytime prior to the FRC (also possible).

The bolded indicates to me that both Clare and Renee got consolation gifts as F2 and F3. Has anyone determined who the F3 women are?

[Mirzam]

The bolded indicates to me that both Clare and Renee got consolation gifts as F2 and F3.  Has anyone determined who the F3 women are?

Clare, Andi and Nikki. No SCs of Renee in St Lucia.

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The couples aren't filmed when they stay on or like Emily and jef do side trip after the finale.  Camera crew are released and fly home.  Only a few handlers remain behind and maybe some big wigs.  

Post finale LA taping is possibility but far from standard.  

I'm open minded but not persuaded.

They lay out at the mansion for weeks at the beginning and tan also.  Tans are over rated as a clue.  

Thanks jlc.

I figured the f2 or f3 would be pretty unwilling to re-hash their "journey" happily to a camera after they have been dumped (if).

Chantel did it

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Y'all will be happy to hear that I am abandoning the claim that the top PI/ITM was taken in St. Lucia. I finally have convinced myself that the hair is too much of a perfect match...so what room the shot was taken in is now irrelevant to me.

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But, for the record, this was never my only evidence nor even close to my best evidence for why I believe Clare is F1. It's been a long evolution in my thinking going back to the start of the season. The screen cap threads (both of them) reveal how I've gotten to this point...not that I expect anyone to go back and read them. I just don't feel like explaining my thinking again...at least not today.

I need to go prepare dinner... :eatingcrow:

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The bolded indicates to me that both Clare and Renee got consolation gifts as F2 and F3.  Has anyone determined who the F3 women are?

Clare, Andi and Nikki. No SCs of Renee in St Lucia.

So Renee gets cut after the HTDs, and Andi leaves on own (right?), which means that Juan would have to keep Clare (who got the second bracelet) as part of the F2 ladies = Nikki and Clare. I still think that the bracelets were giving because Juan really did care about them. jmo and observation, lol.

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Being a bachelor isn't as easy as it looks. According to Chris Harrison, The Bachelor host, Juan Pablo Galavis has had a difficult time saying goodbye to the ladies and adjusting to fame.
In the last episode of The Bachelor, Galavis said good-bye to Sharleen but not on his own terms. The contestant left the show willingly because she was not attracted to Galavis' mind. Harrison told E! News that this is not the last time Galavis will watch a woman leave him, as one other contestant is slated to walk out before the season ends.
Apparently, good-bye has had quite the effect on the Venezuelan stud.
"The rest of these goodbyes are brutal, whether it's a woman making the decision or he's making the decisions, it's tough," Harrison said. "This is not the Sean Lowe, just cruse right into the harbor, smooth-sailing, happy ending kind of show."
Harrison said that "emotional" Galavis "cares deeply" for all of the women on the reality dating show. Despite intimate relationships with the contestants, Galavis has still found it hard to be the Bachelor because of his mouth.
"He has no filter," Harrison said. "He just doesn't understand why everybody gets so upset about things."
One of Galavis' biggest obstacles is testing the waters with 25 different women while still being a respectable father. He has reportedly been "hurt" as a result of simultaneously caring about the women vying for his heart and his kids.
"He definitely has moved the goal post in the middle of the game, changing the rules and moving around," Harrison explained. "...You're with this beautiful woman, and you're having an intimate date and you get into that moment, and you share a kiss or you share a whatever, and quickly you realize, 'Oh crap, I have a daughter. I have a family. Everyone's watching.' It's something you don't normally have to worry about in life but you do as the Bachelor."
The 32-year-old broke barriers when he became the first Latino Bachelor, making expectations quite high.
"...there was just this fever for Juan Pablo," Harrison said. "It really was this bizarre grounds well of support and love. So I don't know if you could ever do anything but fall a little bit short of that, but he's just been himself and he's the guy that I met on The Bachelorette, and he's the guy that now is the Bachelor. He really hasn't changed much. He's been the same guy. He hasn't tried to act any different throughout the entire time."

Wow CH really wants us to believe that JuanP picked no one.

I removed the spoiler so do not click if you don't know the end
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Yeah... we've given up on these over time since F1 can be anywhere... with Vienna and Cathy each occupying a middle spot.

Humorously in the 'ette seasons, Kirk (dumped), Constantine (left), Arie (dumped) and Brooks (left) are in the same spots.

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I hope I am not disturbing anybody here.. please carry on with the conversation.

Since this is the screencap thread, just thought I would *bump* one up again. Sammy Squirrel must not be ignored! [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Yeah bring the one where they meet up. hahaha. But in the end we shall see if all this really meant anything or the lead once again playing the part. Gotta keep it interest or else game over...which I think it was over when he repented going for that midnjght swim. lol

Which one? Limo arrival on night #1? "Is there somebody else in the limo? Oh my gosh!"

Or do you mean one of these hometowns?

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No it's not the one I was talking about but the first one will do. One arm around her with shoulders drawn back. Sure he kisses her but that's all in the game, you wouldn't want to make it obvious. Come on. He already know who F1 and F2 is.

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They didn't get to spend a full day? It seems that they did not change clothes at all. They met in the afternoon. Had lunch. Clare cut his hair so he will look spiffy for Nikki at the next HT and then had dinner with family.

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