Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[Mirzam]

That can be related to lighting and makeup also

Of course it could.

[Aunties_Love]

That can be related to lighting and makeup also

Well, when you look at Clare's face, the tanned area above the makeup is very dark too. I believe Renee was in LA post filming so maybe she and Clare had itm's to do??

[Jeepers]

I think the SCs done with the green walls or are they or white with bounçed lighting .. are also from the Lowes

[Aunties_Love]

Those could easily have been done on the day after her HTD .. Same day as the RC

Do you not notice the difference in their tan from the HTD pics to the ITM's?  There is a major difference in their tan from the HTD pics to the ITM's, therefore I do believe that they were taken in LA.

Renee did not go to St Lucia. Do you really think the F3 were all flown directly from St Lucia to film filler PIs in LA and Renee from her home in Sarasota? I don't. If it was a couple of weeks later then their Caribbean tans would have faded. Would they not?

What I do think is that Renee didn't have a tan for her HTD, yet in the ITM she does. I am not just talking about her face. I am talking about her arms, etc. I don't appreciate being talked down to, but I do have an opinion as well that I think should be valued as others are. Bottom line, the ITM's look different than the HTD episodes in their tans.

[nd4reality]

Those could easily have been done on the day after her HTD .. Same day as the RC

Do you not notice the difference in their tan from the HTD pics to the ITM's?  There is a major difference in their tan from the HTD pics to the ITM's, therefore I do believe that they were taken in LA.

Renee did not go to St Lucia. Do you really think the F3 were all flown directly from St Lucia to film filler PIs in LA and Renee from her home in Sarasota? I don't. If it was a couple of weeks later then their Caribbean tans would have faded. Would they not?

Both very good points.

The "St Lucia tan" would apply only to Clare Nikki and Andi not Renee. Unless there is something in the sleuthing that we all missed and it in fact Renee does turn up at St Lucia. Very possible. Has that been sleuthed for a fact ?

If Renee is not in St Lucia then the whole tan issue is a moot point. Because Renee clearly has a tan in those PIs.

Also - if those PIs were in fact post-season then they would have to be filmed within 1 day to 10 days of filming end for the tans to be that strong ?
Would the 3 rejected B'ettes look that comfy re-hashing the season so soon (within 2 weeks or so) after being dumped (or in Andi's case walking off).

[Guest]

Those could easily have been done on the day after her HTD .. Same day as the RC

Do you not notice the difference in their tan from the HTD pics to the ITM's?  There is a major difference in their tan from the HTD pics to the ITM's, therefore I do believe that they were taken in LA.

Renee looks really tanned on the picture at the RC in Miami. Same as on the ITM.
I believe the ITMs were taken in Miami before RC.

[JBF]

Both very good points.

The "St Lucia tan" would apply only to Clare Nikki and Andi not Renee. Unless there is something in the sleuthing that we all missed and it in fact Renee does turn up at St Lucia. Very possible.  Has that been sleuthed for a fact ?

If Renee is not in St Lucia then the whole tan issue is a moot point. Because Renee clearly has a tan in those PIs.

Also - if those PIs were in fact post-season then they would have to be filmed within 1 day to 10 days of filming end for the tans to be that strong ?
Would the 3 rejected B'ettes look that comfy re-hashing the season so soon  (within 2 weeks or so) after being dumped (or in Andi's case walking off).

The ONLY reason I am suspicious that Renee might "boomerang" is because the promo which Chris Harrison narrated has her shown over both the words "Monday and Tuesday"... and they generally would not be that sloppy with their edits if she is not supposed to be there on Tuesday. They also keep showing her face with all of the fantasy suite drama, regardless if she has anything to do with it.

Now... IF she does visit, it would just be for "closure"... or something else that has no impact on the outcome.

[Litta123]

Has this dress been worn by Nikki in a previous evening GD or in a previous RC? Does it look familiar?

I took this cap a few weeks ago (don't remember the episode). She's giving a PI. I do remember that it didn't match her outfit of that episode so it was a time travel PI.

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I'm wondering if this could be from the evening portion of either her FD or LCD. She looks a little sun-kissed to my eye. We still only have caps for her fantasy date (horseback riding). Why are they being sooo stingy with caps surrounding her dates?

If, if, if this is from St. Lucia, then I think we can establish two evening portions of St. Lucia dates -- the white dress and the purple dress...even if we have no actual date caps to support it. We can use process of elimination to establish it's St. Lucia if we can prove she hasn't worn this outfit yet. Make sense?

I'm still trying to work out where all the St Lucia caps are for Nikki...part of me is so suspicious about the missing caps. I feel like the key to the season lies there...one way or another. Either they exist and it's a dead giveaway that Nikki is F1...or they don't exist because it never happened. Which way is it?

[nd4reality]

Both very good points.

The "St Lucia tan" would apply only to Clare Nikki and Andi not Renee. Unless there is something in the sleuthing that we all missed and it in fact Renee does turn up at St Lucia. Very possible.  Has that been sleuthed for a fact ?

If Renee is not in St Lucia then the whole tan issue is a moot point. Because Renee clearly has a tan in those PIs.

Also - if those PIs were in fact post-season then they would have to be filmed within 1 day to 10 days of filming end for the tans to be that strong ?
Would the 3 rejected B'ettes look that comfy re-hashing the season so soon  (within 2 weeks or so) after being dumped (or in Andi's case walking off).

The ONLY reason I am suspicious that Renee might "boomerang" is because the promo which Chris Harrison narrated has her shown over both the words "Monday and Tuesday"... and they generally would not be that sloppy with their edits if she is not supposed to be there on Tuesday. They also keep showing her face with all of the fantasy suite drama, regardless if she has anything to do with it.

Now... IF she does visit, it would just be for "closure"... or something else that has no impact on the outcome.

Agree - she does seem to feature in the "day 2" of the promo.  So therefore they are doing the back to back episodes !

Should be mighty interesting !

[nd4reality]

Has this dress been worn by Nikki in a previous evening GD or in a previous RC? Does it look familiar?

I took this cap a few weeks ago (don't remember the episode). She's giving a PI. I do remember that it didn't match her outfit of that episode so it was a time travel PI.

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I'm wondering if this could be from the evening portion of either her FD or LCD. She looks a little sun-kissed to my eye. We still only have caps for her fantasy date (horseback riding). Why are they being sooo stingy with caps surrounding her dates?

If, if, if this is from St. Lucia, then I think we can establish two evening portions of St. Lucia dates -- the white dress and the purple dress...even if we have no actual date caps to support it. We can use process of elimination to establish it's St. Lucia if we can prove she hasn't worn this outfit yet. Make sense?

I'm still trying to work out where all the St Lucia caps are for Nikki...part of me is so suspicious about the missing caps. I feel like the key to the season lies there...one way or another. Either they exist and it's a dead giveaway that Nikki is F1...or they don't exist because it never happened. Which way is it?

I would normally say the second !!!

[Litta123]

Has this dress been worn by Nikki in a previous evening GD or in a previous RC? Does it look familiar?

I took this cap a few weeks ago (don't remember the episode). She's giving a PI. I do remember that it didn't match her outfit of that episode so it was a time travel PI.

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I'm wondering if this could be from the evening portion of either her FD or LCD. She looks a little sun-kissed to my eye. We still only have caps for her fantasy date (horseback riding). Why are they being sooo stingy with caps surrounding her dates?

If, if, if this is from St. Lucia, then I think we can establish two evening portions of St. Lucia dates -- the white dress and the purple dress...even if we have no actual date caps to support it. We can use process of elimination to establish it's St. Lucia if we can prove she hasn't worn this outfit yet. Make sense?

I'm still trying to work out where all the St Lucia caps are for Nikki...part of me is so suspicious about the missing caps. I feel like the key to the season lies there...one way or another. Either they exist and it's a dead giveaway that Nikki is F1...or they don't exist because it never happened. Which way is it?

I would normally say the second !!!

Going back to the premise that the preview tells the story of the season (and I know people dispute this, but please be patient and let me explain), it's not surprising that Andi's F3 date caps were cut. Yes, they existed, but her date was irrelevant...because she walks off at F3. So those weren't in the preview...it's the most efficient way to tell the story that there is a problem for Andi in St. Lucia. Remember the preview is 4 minutes, give or take.

We get Nikki horseback riding caps so in that glimpse of the preview we were able to determine she was in St. Lucia (at least F3 and as it turns out maybe F2...or F1). But the fact we have no more of Nikki in St Lucia in the original preview is my red flag that Nikki is there at the end. Is she or isn't she? According to the preview, no.

We have both of Clare's St. Lucia dates...not in your face obvious...we had to slug through a lot of caps and had multiple discussions, but were able to conclude those dates were Clare's. JBF's edit analysis of the VOs during that preview point to Clare. JBF, please cmiiw.

So if, if, if the story of the season is told in the preview, it all points to Clare, IMO.

[Guest]

Just have something to add/ask. The PI's of Clare with the darker hair(?) and looking a little fuller where she obviously changed into the white sweater, purple jacket, and orange/red dress had to have been after the season. And then some of you are saying that her wearing the bracelet was after the season as well. Would that (if it WERE after the season) have been right after the season ended...whereas the ones with her darker hair and looking fuller could have been a couple of weeks/months after the season ended? It's obvious that her hair is darker, she looks fuller, and obviously her makeup and hair are diffrent in the PI's of her in the white sweater/purple jacket/orange/red dress VS. The bracelet PI. Soooo?? The question is that...What do we think?

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