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Post by Guest Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:33 pm

4health wrote:My thoughts about the FRC screenshot with JP is after he let's F2 go and that he will be also breaking the so called F1 also….no ring, no propose.  I can't imagine from the story be told on my tv screen is any of these girls are F1.   I just don't see it.  Where were the days when we looked all scenarios. There has never been a F1 that is the first to say she was in love or be the first to express openly that she had fallen for them.  Usually the F1 feelings are hidden or need to take a journey to get there.  This is just a weird season or me.  

are you expecting JPab to pull a Brad Womack 1.0??....i truly think it wont happen eversince i`ve heard women all over America hated him for doing so.  giggling  (not that i dont think he didn`t want to, but the rating-hungry producers certainly wont allow him)

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Post by 4health Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:47 pm

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4health wrote:My thoughts about the FRC screenshot with JP is after he let's F2 go and that he will be also breaking the so called F1 also….no ring, no propose.  I can't imagine from the story be told on my tv screen is any of these girls are F1.   I just don't see it.  Where were the days when we looked all scenarios. There has never been a F1 that is the first to say she was in love or be the first to express openly that she had fallen for them.  Usually the F1 feelings are hidden or need to take a journey to get there.  This is just a weird season or me.  

are you expecting JPab to pull a Brad Womack 1.0??....i truly think it wont happen eversince i`ve heard women all over America hated him for doing so.  giggling  (not that i dont think he didn`t want to, but the rating-hungry producers certainly wont allow him)

I am trying to figure out the storyline of this season…what do you think the storyline is? Producers won't allow whim to be like a Brad 1.0 but I think he could do let's hang out and F1 blows a cap and JP in the screen cap doesn't like to hurt people and knows that this last girl also wuvs him and he is going to hurt her, hence the worry feeling.

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:57 pm

4health wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
4health wrote:My thoughts about the FRC screenshot with JP is after he let's F2 go and that he will be also breaking the so called F1 also….no ring, no propose.  I can't imagine from the story be told on my tv screen is any of these girls are F1.   I just don't see it.  Where were the days when we looked all scenarios. There has never been a F1 that is the first to say she was in love or be the first to express openly that she had fallen for them.  Usually the F1 feelings are hidden or need to take a journey to get there.  This is just a weird season or me.  

are you expecting JPab to pull a Brad Womack 1.0??....i truly think it wont happen eversince i`ve heard women all over America hated him for doing so.  giggling  (not that i dont think he didn`t want to, but the rating-hungry producers certainly wont allow him)

I am trying to figure out the storyline of this season…what do you think the storyline is?  Producers won't allow whim to be like a Brad 1.0 but I think he could do let's hang out and F1 blows a cap and JP in the screen cap doesn't like to hurt people and knows that this last girl also wuvs him and he is going to hurt her, hence the worry feeling.

i think some of the `hypothetical` storyline has been thrown in edit thread. I know I and JBF shares the same thinking about this matter. I was late to the party so i dont know about the other `theories` out there. Feel free to go to the edit thread to find out. :Smiley: 

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Post by JBF Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:59 pm

Will Juan choose a woman strictly according to the "stepmother" logic or because of something else... like how he FEELS?
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Post by 4health Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:06 pm

JBF wrote:Will Juan choose a woman strictly according to the "stepmother" logic or because of something else... like how he FEELS?

Interesting? I am a stepmom of two and it is a thankless job….I did it (they're 35 and 33 now) It is truly a package deal but thank goodness that my husband saw that he loved me and that we could work through it…..and we did 25 years later.   I hope JP feels and sees the "stepmother" possibilities (both).

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Post by Maggenzm Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:13 pm

murasaki1393 wrote:
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Litta123 wrote:From last night's preview:

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You have very nice screenshots. The ones on youtube look muddy.

To me, the screenshots of Juan Pablo at the FRC look like he is crying, or has been crying.  It looks like he is walking back from possibly walking the F2 out of the FRC after telling her goodbye.  He looks as if he is wiping tears from his eye.  He is walking looking down at the ground and is not smiling, IMO, those pictures are not happy pictures, and we know he has had difficulty all season long saying goodbye.

dittto with you. which leads me thinking he was letting go one of his F2 right BEFORE the FRC-- i agree he seems sincere for not hurting the girls that he put a lot of consideration to not humiliate the F2 AT FRC. It will also match Cary the stylish comments about 2 outfits for the finale. However, he stopped the F2 for coming to the FRC set and letting her go instead.  :yes: 

Mura, I really like Juan Pablo! I think he is a genuine guy and I truly hope whoever he ends up with is a good fit for him cus he seam to want a lasting marriage like his parents has. I am definitely teamJuan.
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Post by julychild Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:14 pm

JBF wrote:Will Juan choose a woman strictly according to the "stepmother" logic or because of something else... like how he FEELS?

I think it's very easy for us to forget that JP is not a single dad, in the true sense of the phrase. Camila lives with her mom and not her dad, and they have their little arrangement on the weekends. It is very obvious that he loves his daughter very much and of course would pick someone who is welcoming of this reality. In the video below we see that JP is aware that Camila doesn't need a step mom, but he needs someone.




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Post by Guest Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:21 pm

julychild wrote:
JBF wrote:Will Juan choose a woman strictly according to the "stepmother" logic or because of something else... like how he FEELS?

I think it's very easy for us to forget that JP is not a single dad, in the true sense of the phrase. Camila lives with her mom and not her dad, and they have their little arrangement on the weekends. It is very obvious that he loves his daughter very much and of course would pick someone who is welcoming of this reality. In the video below we see that JP is aware that Camila doesn't need a step mom, but he needs someone.




TY for sharing, JC...
interesting that he clearly said : NO dancing, as his deal breaker...Hmmmm  Suspect 

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Post by julychild Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:23 pm

murasaki1393 wrote:
julychild wrote:
JBF wrote:Will Juan choose a woman strictly according to the "stepmother" logic or because of something else... like how he FEELS?

I think it's very easy for us to forget that JP is not a single dad, in the true sense of the phrase. Camila lives with her mom and not her dad, and they have their little arrangement on the weekends. It is very obvious that he loves his daughter very much and of course would pick someone who is welcoming of this reality. In the video below we see that JP is aware that Camila doesn't need a step mom, but he needs someone.




TY for sharing, JC...
interesting that he clearly said : NO dancing, as his deal breaker...Hmmmm  Suspect 

I"m sure that can be easily overlooked, when you love someone.

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Post by JBF Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:28 pm

Hey, 4health... I'll be more specific here with The Storyline. If we get too carried away here, we can move this conversation to Editing. Yet I'll keep it simple.

I always look at the individual contestants for the overall storyline.

Renee is 32 and a mommy. Juan is 32 and a daddy. Renee wants him to view her as more than just a mommy. She had to battle just to get a kiss.

Andi is a career girl who is strictly about the "physical chemistry" with Juan. No mention of kids at all with her. Her storyline is all about "losing control". However, according to her daddy: "The person that is going to be good enough for my daughter is going to come to me and say there is no one else in the world for me."

In addition, the criminal prosecutor told Juan TWICE to his face that he is not a great dancer.

Sharleen is a career girl timid about children. She too got a "physical chemistry" edit, but she wants a cerebral relationship with more talking... and this is why she left. Most important to Juan: "I appreciate a lot her honesty." She is not trying to be somebody she's not.

Nikki is a nurse who works with babies. She meets Camilla first. She is confident she has the edge over Clare because she thinks Clare can't share a hotel room...oops!.. share Juan's love for Camilla. According to Juan, "Nikki's cute. She's a nurse and she takes care of kids. That to me is huge."

With Clare: "A man that loves his daughter that much, I think, he can love me that much"
Juan: "Love is very important to me. I want to have that person I can wake up every day with." In the Behind The Scenes show (Sunday before episode #2), he told Chris Harrison "I see her and I see myself a lot on this show." Also "I can see myself with Clare having a good life with Camilla." (Of course, he may say the same with the others too, but Clare got that line in the very beginning... and Juan always "looks ahead and sees something good".)

The Obstacle: what are his "boundaries" regarding Camilla? This is The Problem with the Juan/Clare relationship.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:33 pm

julychild wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
julychild wrote:
JBF wrote:Will Juan choose a woman strictly according to the "stepmother" logic or because of something else... like how he FEELS?

I think it's very easy for us to forget that JP is not a single dad, in the true sense of the phrase. Camila lives with her mom and not her dad, and they have their little arrangement on the weekends. It is very obvious that he loves his daughter very much and of course would pick someone who is welcoming of this reality. In the video below we see that JP is aware that Camila doesn't need a step mom, but he needs someone.

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TY for sharing, JC...
interesting that he clearly said : NO dancing, as his deal breaker...Hmmmm  Suspect 

I"m sure that can be easily overlooked, when you love someone.

haha..of course...btw, sorry to go back to SCs discussion,  i was about to ask you...could you weigh in, why Nikki wasn`t appeared much in those `woody` PIs while we spotted bunch of girls doing at least once and Clare was in several of those? TIA[/quote]

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:44 pm

JBF wrote:Hey, 4health... I'll be more specific here with The Storyline. If we get too carried away here, we can move this conversation to Editing. Yet I'll keep it simple.

I always look at the individual contestants for the overall storyline.

Renee is 32 and a mommy. Juan is 32 and a daddy. Renee wants him to view her as more than just a mommy. She had to battle just to get a kiss.

Andi is a career girl who is strictly about the "physical chemistry" with Juan. No mention of kids at all with her. Her storyline is all about "losing control". However, according to her daddy: "The person that is going to be good enough for my daughter is going to come to me and say there is no one else in the world for me."

In addition, the criminal prosecutor told Juan TWICE to his face that he is not a great dancer.

Sharleen is a career girl timid about children. She too got a "physical chemistry" edit, but she wants a cerebral relationship with more talking... and this is why she left. Most important to Juan: "I appreciate a lot her honesty." She is not trying to be somebody she's not.

Nikki is a nurse who works with babies. She meets Camilla first. She is confident she has the edge over Clare because she thinks Clare can't share a hotel room...oops!.. share Juan's love for Camilla. According to Juan, "Nikki's cute. She's a nurse and she takes care of kids. That to me is huge."

With Clare: "A man that loves his daughter that much, I think, he can love me that much"
Juan: "Love is very important to me. I want to have that person I can wake up every day with." In the Behind The Scenes show (Sunday before episode #2), he told Chris Harrison "I see her and I see myself a lot on this show." Also "I can see myself with Clare having a good life with Camilla." (Of course, he may say the same with the others too, but Clare got that line in the very beginning... and Juan always "looks ahead and sees something good".)

The Obstacle: what are his "boundaries" regarding Camilla? This is The Problem with the Juan/Clare relationship.

JBF..im bringing over this post to edit thread since i need to add additional tid-bits  :Smiley: 

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