Episode 9 -- Fantasy Dates -- airs TUESDAY February 25

George, I am really not sure. I think, JPG and Clare have amazing physical chemistry and if he doesn't sleep with her, she may react really badly.

I hope JPG doesn't but honestly, it could be hard to resist.

see2love wrote:What if JP decided to tell the remaining women about oceangate in the spirit of being honest and Andi got really pissed off and left. And maybe that is why we saw Nikki crying on the couch too.

That's something I thought about too...
I believe he talked about Clare, and yes maybe about oceangate, that would explain Andi and Nikki being upset. Andi would leave because she wouldn't think it's worth staying, especially with the bachelorette gig in mind. Nikki may have a dilemma, hence her crying, because she had a good relationship with JP until FD.

^^ But if he told them about oceangate, would he tell them about familygate as well? I think familygate is way more important.

sde1041 wrote:

see2love wrote:What if JP decided to tell the remaining women about oceangate in the spirit of being honest and Andi got really pissed off and left. And maybe that is why we saw Nikki crying on the couch too.

That's something I thought about too...
I believe he talked about Clare, and yes maybe about oceangate, that would explain Andi and Nikki being upset. Andi would leave because she wouldn't think it's worth staying, especially with the bachelorette gig in mind. Nikki may have a dilemma, hence her crying, because she had a good relationship with JP until FD.

I don't know what JP told them. If he told them about Oceangate, Nikki might have wanted to leave as well. Maybe he just said something to Andi that rubbed her the wrong way? Maybe Nikki is crying once she gets to the rose ceremony because she realizes Andi has left on her own?

I saw a new promo on Shark Tank, last night. It seems Andi left just before the RC, because JP is shown standing with a rose in his hand wearing the same yellow shirt he had on in the other scene of himself and Andi having a talk. Also Andi did a PI saying something close to "... it was a disaster...he(it) was so inappropriate, I wanted to slap him"

Julychild wrote:I saw a new promo on Shark Tank, last night. It seems Andi left just before the RC, because JP is shown standing with a rose in his hand wearing the same yellow shirt he had on in the other scene of himself and Andi having a talk. Also Andi did a PI saying something close to "... it was a disaster...he(it) was so inappropriate, I wanted to slap him"
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I saw this too! I was trying to find it this morning on the internet but could locate it. I was surprised they would use the "inappropriate, I wanted to slap him" comment - it really makes JP look bad and taints the F1 & F2.

eirekay wrote:

Julychild wrote:I saw a new promo on Shark Tank, last night. It seems Andi left just before the RC, because JP is shown standing with a rose in his hand wearing the same yellow shirt he had on in the other scene of himself and Andi having a talk. Also Andi did a PI saying something close to "... it was a disaster...he(it) was so inappropriate, I wanted to slap him"
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I saw this too!  I was trying to find it this morning on the internet but could locate it.  I was surprised they would use the "inappropriate, I wanted to slap him" comment - it really makes JP look bad and taints the F1 & F2.

I am waiting to see how it plays out. With the way they splice things together combined with how TPTB have been throwing JP under the bus; I am thinking they are making it seem WAY WORSE than it actually is!

George1218 wrote:

eirekay wrote:

Julychild wrote:I saw a new promo on Shark Tank, last night. It seems Andi left just before the RC, because JP is shown standing with a rose in his hand wearing the same yellow shirt he had on in the other scene of himself and Andi having a talk. Also Andi did a PI saying something close to "... it was a disaster...he(it) was so inappropriate, I wanted to slap him"
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I saw this too!  I was trying to find it this morning on the internet but could locate it.  I was surprised they would use the "inappropriate, I wanted to slap him" comment - it really makes JP look bad and taints the F1 & F2.

I am waiting to see how it plays out. With the way they splice things together combined with how TPTB have been throwing JP under the bus; I am thinking they are making it seem WAY WORSE than it actually is!

Agree. I will wait to comment until after I see the show.

George1218 wrote:

eirekay wrote:

Julychild wrote:I saw a new promo on Shark Tank, last night. It seems Andi left just before the RC, because JP is shown standing with a rose in his hand wearing the same yellow shirt he had on in the other scene of himself and Andi having a talk. Also Andi did a PI saying something close to "... it was a disaster...he(it) was so inappropriate, I wanted to slap him"
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I saw this too!  I was trying to find it this morning on the internet but could locate it.  I was surprised they would use the "inappropriate, I wanted to slap him" comment - it really makes JP look bad and taints the F1 & F2.

I am waiting to see how it plays out. With the way they splice things together combined with how TPTB have been throwing JP under the bus; I am thinking they are making it seem WAY WORSE than it actually is!

Not to mention, how many times have they shown something in the promos and then never shown it during the episode. They like to promote controversy to get us to watch, but mostly it ends up being much ado about nothing.

iamreal2u wrote:^^ But if he told them about oceangate, would he tell them about familygate as well? I think familygate is way more important.

We don't know what it could have been, yes it could have been those things. It could been he was talking to much about Camilla in that setting. Whatever it was I bet it wasn't as bad as they try to make it out to be, they're just hyping it up. She doesn't look that upset to me.

I can't see him telling the others about oceangate...at least on camera.

Mommnof1 wrote:I can't see him telling the others about oceangate...at least on camera.
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I suspect that the Chris Harrison line "Juan Pablo has something to tell you..." is being shown with the wrong RC. They are showing the HTD RC but I think it belongs to the FD RC and the "Obviously something has happened..." comment refers to why Andi isn't there. I don't think oceangate gets revealed.