Episode 7 -- Miami -- airs Feb 17

For some reason it seems clearer this season, to me and to the girls themselves, when their time is coming to an end.

eversotrue wrote:I honestly dont see the issue. I dont think Clare is as bad as you all are making her out to be and I dont think Nikki is as bad as others believe she is aswell. This is a fake as hell (to some extent) manipulated reality show. We dont know these chicks in real life.

The story is in the end, it will be Nikki and Clare vying for JP. That's what all this confrontation between them is about. tptb are encouraging clare to keep it going, why she went upstairs behind Nikki. I always thought that's why they came on the show for, to get to know the lead. That mean spending time with them. I don't know who made the rule if you got a rose you don't talk to the lead. That's crazy, more the time the better the connection.

eversotrue wrote:Maybe there was more to the story..? LOL. Idk. We'll see on Monday (but probably only half of the real story anyway).

It looks to me that he WAS making moves on that group date with Andi and Clare. He looks pretty invested in those pictures to me. He has his legs over Andi's AND Clare's. He's tickling Andi's chin and looking towards her. He's the one leaning into the kiss with Clare which seems as if he initiated by his body language. He's holding Clare's hand with his palm completely in hers and staring at her when she isn't even looking at him. He definitely looks into it.

What I see in those pic is him doing the bachelor thing, in other word playing the role to make viewers think it's this one.

Iluvbachette, I agree with you. He has began to put distance between him and the girls except Nikki. He has denied the kiss with some and now he has started to limit how many they get. That Juan Pablo!

I for one am so glad that the drama for the most part stops Monday.  Hometowns then separations from here on!!

eliza3 wrote:I for one am so glad that the drama for the most part stops Monday.  Hometowns then separations from here on!!

This is why there is a drama build up….because what else do they have once all the girls are separated the F2 must be seen as not being friends etc.

4health wrote:

eliza3 wrote:I for one am so glad that the drama for the most part stops Monday.  Hometowns then separations from here on!!

This is why there is a drama build up….because what else do they have once all the girls are separated the F2 must be seen as not being friends etc.

Agreed. But for me I don't want to watch any more of the "staged" drama.

rosesrREd wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

see2love wrote:How is talking  and laughing about being a bad dancer negative? She looked estatic when the date card was being read. I like Nikki and fleiss and his minions wont changemy opinion.

  

The daggers that Chelsea and Clare threw Nikki when she got the date card, was pure jealousy.  The comment about Nikki being negative was also made out of jealousy.  Chelsea clearly thought she should have gotten the one on one date, and somehow thought she was more entitled than Nikki was.  I think Chelsea knew at that point, her stint on the Bachelor was almost up, and lashed out.

I think making fun of ourself about things you aren't good at is a defense mechanism. I do it too. I laugh at myself, to help let others laugh at the situation too.

Truthfully, it was time for Chelsea to get another 1:1. Sharleen and Nikki getting those dates screamed that she wasn't going past this week. I wonder if Nikki's date came before or after Sharleen's. If Sharleen was already gone, I wonder if the lack of date made it obvious to Chelsie she was not going forward.

stuckinsc wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

see2love wrote:How is talking  and laughing about being a bad dancer negative? She looked estatic when the date card was being read. I like Nikki and fleiss and his minions wont changemy opinion.

  

The daggers that Chelsea and Clare threw Nikki when she got the date card, was pure jealousy.  The comment about Nikki being negative was also made out of jealousy.  Chelsea clearly thought she should have gotten the one on one date, and somehow thought she was more entitled than Nikki was.  I think Chelsea knew at that point, her stint on the Bachelor was almost up, and lashed out.

I think making fun of ourself about things you aren't good at is a defense mechanism.  I do it too.  I laugh at myself, to help let others laugh at the situation too.

Truthfully, it was time for Chelsea to get another 1:1.  Sharleen and Nikki getting those dates screamed that she wasn't going past this week.  I wonder if Nikki's date came before or after Sharleen's.  If Sharleen was already gone, I wonder if the lack of date made it obvious to Chelsie she was not going forward.

According to RS, Sharleen shows up at JuanPa's hotel room after he returns from his date with Nikki and eliminates herself then.

docnash14 wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

see2love wrote:How is talking  and laughing about being a bad dancer negative? She looked estatic when the date card was being read. I like Nikki and fleiss and his minions wont changemy opinion.

  

The daggers that Chelsea and Clare threw Nikki when she got the date card, was pure jealousy.  The comment about Nikki being negative was also made out of jealousy.  Chelsea clearly thought she should have gotten the one on one date, and somehow thought she was more entitled than Nikki was.  I think Chelsea knew at that point, her stint on the Bachelor was almost up, and lashed out.

I think making fun of ourself about things you aren't good at is a defense mechanism.  I do it too.  I laugh at myself, to help let others laugh at the situation too.

Truthfully, it was time for Chelsea to get another 1:1.  Sharleen and Nikki getting those dates screamed that she wasn't going past this week.  I wonder if Nikki's date came before or after Sharleen's.  If Sharleen was already gone, I wonder if the lack of date made it obvious to Chelsie she was not going forward.

According to RS, Sharleen shows up at JuanPa's hotel room after he returns from his date with Nikki and eliminates herself then.

But Sharleen has a date, and looking at the previews, it seems she is telling him at that point she is leaving. Unless, she just tells him she is thinking about leaving, but doesn't actually do it until later on. So, since the screencaps indicate she has a date, and if we are to believe RS that she comes to the hotel, then Nikki's date was 2nd. Also, when we see the preview if Nikki getting the date card, Sharleen is clearly absent from that scene. She could be on her date, but normally they don't do back to back one on one dates. I am not convinced that Sharleen leaving, and her knocking on JP's hotel door are related.

^^ They probably had the second 1-on-1 to coincide with Camila's recital. I can see Juan wanting to attend.

rosesrREd wrote:

docnash14 wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

see2love wrote:How is talking  and laughing about being a bad dancer negative? She looked estatic when the date card was being read. I like Nikki and fleiss and his minions wont changemy opinion.

  

The daggers that Chelsea and Clare threw Nikki when she got the date card, was pure jealousy.  The comment about Nikki being negative was also made out of jealousy.  Chelsea clearly thought she should have gotten the one on one date, and somehow thought she was more entitled than Nikki was.  I think Chelsea knew at that point, her stint on the Bachelor was almost up, and lashed out.

I think making fun of ourself about things you aren't good at is a defense mechanism.  I do it too.  I laugh at myself, to help let others laugh at the situation too.

Truthfully, it was time for Chelsea to get another 1:1.  Sharleen and Nikki getting those dates screamed that she wasn't going past this week.  I wonder if Nikki's date came before or after Sharleen's.  If Sharleen was already gone, I wonder if the lack of date made it obvious to Chelsie she was not going forward.

According to RS, Sharleen shows up at JuanPa's hotel room after he returns from his date with Nikki and eliminates herself then.

But Sharleen has a date, and looking at the previews, it seems she is telling him at that point she is leaving.  Unless, she just tells him she is thinking about leaving, but doesn't actually do it until later on.   So, since the screencaps indicate she has a date, and if we are to believe RS that she comes to the hotel, then Nikki's date was 2nd.  Also, when we see the preview if Nikki getting the date card, Sharleen is clearly absent from that scene.  She could be on her date, but normally they don't do back to back one on one dates.   I am not convinced that Sharleen leaving, and her knocking on JP's hotel door are related.

I am not saying she doesn't have a date. From what I am gathering from RS' report, Sharleen's date comes first, then Nikki's. If so, apparently Sharleen spent some time mulling it over after the conclusion of her date and must have been told when JuanPa had returned from his date with Nikki and proceeded to his hotel room.

Didn't they have two 1:1 dates back to back, followed by the group date in one of the earlier episodes? I seem to remember being surprised by that at some point.